Blaze King King Question

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I am building a building in Idaho That is aprox 50' x 50' 2500 sq. ft.

Ceiling height if 14' flat.

This is a out building that will be used as storage and
studio / work shop. At one end it will be set up as a Man cave, probably a TV
pool table, couch that sort of thing.

The walls, ceiling, windows will be up to current standards, so it should be fairly
tight construction.

Average temps in winter, nights around 10 deg. days around 18 deg.
Its all open inside the building with no interior walls. just a 50 x 50 square box, but with fairly high flat ceiling.

I made the ceiling this high so if I ever wanted to store something tall like a motorhome
I could.

My question is do you think the king would be able to heat that open space to
a comfortable level.

Thanks
 
What are current standards of insulation in Idaho?

Walls? Ceiling?

Is the floor insulated?

Under normal circumstances shouldnt be a problem.;)

I think SolarandWood has 3000 sqft he's heating with a King without drywall on a windy hill??
 
What are current standards of insulation in Idaho?

Walls? Ceiling?

Is the floor insulated?

Under normal circumstances shouldnt be a problem.;)

I think SolarandWood has 3000 sqft he's heating with a King without drywall on a windy hill??

Walls R19 ceiling R50 floor is concrete. up to current insulation standards for tight building construction.
 
Comfortable to "me" vs "my wife" may vary but for what you have, I'd say;
Yes.
Ceiling fan or 2 to move the air around. But the king with a blower should keep it comfortable.

May take a while to recover if you pulled in a cold motor home.
Don't expect 24 hour burn times (unless you have all good dry locust for wood) if you want it 72° in there during the cold periods.
Windows & the big garage door will be the biggest heat loss areas.
My shop is set for 60° when I'm in there, comfortable for me :)
 
Comfortable to "me" vs "my wife" may vary but for what you have, I'd say;
Yes.
Ceiling fan or 2 to move the air around. But the king with a blower should keep it comfortable.

May take a while to recover if you pulled in a cold motor home.
Don't expect 24 hour burn times (unless you have all good dry locust for wood) if you want it 72° in there during the cold periods.
Windows & the big garage door will be the biggest heat loss areas.
My shop is set for 60° when I'm in there, comfortable for me :)
The BK paper work says it heats up 2,000 ft. Is there anyone on here that heats more than 2,000 ft
with the king.?
 
I'm a little more than 2000, well insulated helps, but not so tight I need an OAK.
Several variables for how much any stove will heat.
2000 sq feet of a 14' tall ceiling is allot of cubic feet, standard is 8' ceiling with most recommendations.
 
Yeah, I was just going to say:

2500 sqft w/14 ft ceilings = 35,000 cft!

The equivalent square footage w/ 8' ceilings is 4,375 sqft! Don't have a King so I won't say one way or the other. But, that is a LOT of volume in a pretty cold climate.
 
Cold concrete floor isn't going to help, either. Though a big investment, radiant in the floor is the only way to heat a shop.
 
I'd put the King smack dab in the middle if you can and get a model without the side shields so you have max radiant heat. Maybe also have a ceiling fan close by.
 
The additional cost for radiant in the slab is not terribly expensive. Under 1000$ easily. The heating system like pumps, and boiler can be very cheap or very expensive depending on what you want to do. I installed radiant heat in my 1800 SF slab and plan to use it to maintain a base temperature above freezing but could always crank it up if I see a long term project coming. Then use a non-cat woodstove for short term warm up. I like the idea of cat stoves in the house but I don't want a long burn time out in a barn. I want the fire to go out quickly and maybe burn some questionable stuff.

A woodstove in the OP's shop is in direct violation of the national fire code.
 

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The additional cost for radiant in the slab is not terribly expensive. Under 1000$ easily. The heating system like pumps, and boiler can be very cheap or very expensive depending on what you want to do. I installed radiant heat in my 1800 SF slab and plan to use it to maintain a base temperature above freezing but could always crank it up if I see a long term project coming. Then use a non-cat woodstove for short term warm up. I like the idea of cat stoves in the house but I don't want a long burn time out in a barn. I want the fire to go out quickly and maybe burn some questionable stuff.

A woodstove in the OP's shop is in direct violation of the national fire code.
I know its the cubic ft is whats killing me. Highbeam what kind of radiant did you put in your floor.
I always thought they were super expensive.
 
I have a BKK for the house, but if I was going to heat a shop?...NC-30 and I'd never look back. Might even run 2 of em', lots more raw heat for the same cost as 1 BKK.
 
I have a BKK for the house, but if I was going to heat a shop?...NC-30 and I'd never look back. Might even run 2 of em', lots more raw heat for the same cost as 1 BKK.
I was thinking the same thing, you could but two 30's for less than the price of one BKK, and use one close to where you spend the most time and fire the other one up when its colder and you want the whole place warm.
 
I was thinking the same thing, you could but two 30's for less than the price of one BKK, and use one close to where you spend the most time and fire the other one up when its colder and you want the whole place warm.
2-stage wood heat?
 
Seems a bit silly to try to heat that whole space up to 70::F . 55F is comfortable for shop work. Unless you intend to heat the place 24/7 I'd put a wood furnace in the place for faster air exchange. Then consider partitioning off the man-cave with a lower ceiling and heat that area separately. http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Wood-...hief-FC1100E-Indoor-Wood-Coal-Burning-Furnace
Begreen you have a good point.

The thing is, I know nothing about wood heaters. Are they more efficent than a wood stove? Do they eat more wood than a stove? Are they more work to run?

I was thinking if I put the BKK in the man cave section of the building it would maybe keep that area 70 and maybe the far other end of the shop might be 60. That would be ok, 60 is a nice temp if your working on something in the shop.

All thes ideas are great. I have built houses but never a shop so I have no idea what works best.

I do know I love the heat from a wood stove. I love the interaction between me
and the stove. Something about tinkering with the stove I like.

Thanks for all the ideas I will look into consider them all.
 
Maybe so, but I know tons of people that heat workshops/garages with wood stoves.
I'm not sure about the national code but city and county building department said it was ok as long as it was 18' above the floor. I think that code is the same for water heaters, they have to be 18' above the garage floor.
 
I have a BKK for the house, but if I was going to heat a shop?...NC-30 and I'd never look back. Might even run 2 of em', lots more raw heat for the same cost as 1 BKK.

Have Both and I go BK......

In all reality I'd go with a Blaze King APEX cat furnace:)
 
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