I never pay for wood but..

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JoeyD

Minister of Fire
Jun 15, 2008
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South Jersey
A guy claims to have full 4x4x8 cords of mostly red oak with some white oak mixed in. Split, mind you, for $80. I am thinking I would be foolish to not pick up at least one cord from him and maybe a second. I only burn maybe 3 or a little more cords a year so this will be an easy year for me. The only thing that will spoil this is if it is longer then 18" but looking at his pictures I may be in luck. BTW this is for the15-16 burning season
 
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Go for it that is a good price.
 
Get some, keep some, re-sale some.
Great price in almost any area.

Good it didn't blow or float away.
How'd you come thru Sandy? Good I hope :)
 
Yea, thats a steal. You can easily have close to 1/4 even if its free! I would buy it and like said resell it or just keep it and keep on getting free wood. If near me at that price i would buy 2-4 cords worth to put me 3 years ahead and keep on cutting!!
 
I'd buy as much as I could afford & make room for. $80/cord? Costs me almost that much after paying for gas for 2hr round trip to parents property,equipment/maintenance costs.

But I wouldnt do it any other way.Its better than a gym for me,plus you cant really put a price on being around family.>> The memories & fellowship are priceless treasures.
 
Get some, keep some, re-sale some.
Great price in almost any area.

Good it didn't blow or float away.
How'd you come thru Sandy? Good I hope :)

We were some of the lucky ones. The eye passed right over us but it never really got that bad, lots of rain but no real flooding. The only damage I got was one of my tarps blew off so I am letting it dry out a bit before I put it back on.
 
That is about 1/3 of what people are paying up here, and they are getting cheaper flavors!
I just about refuse to pay someone to get wood but at that price I'd break down and buy 8-10 cord!

Glad to hear you guys made it through ok.
 
Heck yeah. I would go for that deal. At that price it is better than doing it yourself and putting wear and tear on you and your equipment.
 
I too would jump at that price. Just don't order too much at first and then perhaps find that his cord size and your's do not match.
 
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This is for me picking it up about 25 minutes away. I called him today and he said his cords are 4x4x8, when I mentioned my stove won't take anything bigger then 18" he said he could do that. So I am hopeing this is for real because it almost seems to good, and we all know what that usually means. Hopefully he has it stacked when I get there. If the first cord looks good I will be going back to pick up one for my buddy and then another one for me.
 
Joey, what that sounds like to me is that he will cut it to the length you want....which means he thinks it dries in log form. Probably has 8' or longer logs that he cuts up and thinks just because those trees were cut a year ago it is ready to burn. Wait a minute!!!! This is oak. This might not turn out well if you need the wood this year. If you don't need it for 2-3 years then okay.
 
Thanks Backwoods Savage but I took your advice 4 years ago and have been 2 1/2 to 3 years or more ahead since. This is for the 2015-2016 season.;lol Now my friend who burns an old smoke dragon in his hangout and won't take my advise is on his own. At least it's not his primary residence.
 
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great way to get ahead, hopefully this is a winner for you, I myself would buy, easy, affordable futures with out the ware & tear and labor. Never seen that good of price. good luck ! further ahead the better.
 
For me free always includes work…at that price, like others mentioned, you really have to figure your time compared to cutting and splitting even if in log form delivered for free. I love working logs and it gives me a great therapeutic feeling to buck it, and split it…but good oak at that price if at the proper stove length, I think i would even crack open my wallet!
 
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Agree w/what many have said here--that's a great price and get as much as you can get. For comparison, cut/split/delivered oak in this area goes for $300-$350 a cord (4x4x8). I know b/c my neighbor's son has been selling it all summer for college $ and has sold 8 cord and counting. At first he was selling a cord for $300 and when it was moving pretty quickly, he raised his price to $325 and still was selling it as fast as he listed it on CL. I can't wait until my boys are old enough to do this to start saving for college....it'll be a few years as my oldest is just 6yrs. :)
 
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Yah, firewood here in Oregon is like gold. Even though we have all these trees growing here, its all for the mills or for export. I am set for this winter with 'free' wood, but I have been having a harder time scrounging this year than last. Oak is rediculously priced here, and its all Oregon white oak. A trash tree species. If I have to I can get 2 year dry doug fir split and delivered from a retired forested near here for $175 a cord. That is as good a price as I can find firewood. If you posted $80 for oak cords here you would sell 100 cords in a week; green, dry, wet or otherwise. Hell, the competition would buy it all up and resell it. A truckload of green logs of either oak or maple dropped here is $1,200 a load. That is for about 9 cords green, 8 when split, stacked and dried. That is $150 a cord, and you do most of the work and have to store it someplace and keep it off the gound and covered. In my book the $175 for dry split Doug fir is a better deal. And of course free is better, though gas is not free. I probably pay about $40 in gas per cord to haul 'free' wood here.
 
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Well old sayings hold true.


I went to pick up a cord today and when I got there the guy had what looked like two cords split and stacked. Then he told me how much I could load on my trailer to make a cord. I though no way but started loading my trailer anyway knowing it is a 5x10 trailer with one foot high rails. Level is 50 cubic feet right? So I get about 2/3 of the trailer loaded and he said ok now just take the top off next pile. I said what? I asked him again if a cord was 4x4x8 and he said yes, well I told him my trailer loaded level was only 50 cubic feet, less then half a cord. I offered to unload my trailer and after scratching his head and thinking he said your right, load another row. It was at that point I knew what I was going to do but loaded the rest of what he thought was my full cord. I figured I had at best 3/4 of a cord and $80 was a fair price for that amount of wood if I was not a scrounger. Now this is where I am a softy. He was a collage kid who said he was using the money for school. I hope math was not his major but I looked at it as a donation to someone who was willing to put a little sweat and time into making his life better and let it ride. He was doing all the splitting by hand and only had a little Sthill 210 for a saw.


I really feel sorry for him tomorrow when a guy is coming from almost 50 miles away to get three cords from him and is bringing a "big truck" as he says. By his standard my little Toyota and 5x10 trailer could have hauled almost two cords.
 
That is rather typical in my experience as well. Guys here on this and other forums are wed to the idea of face cords, rick and racks, but never mind that rot. Here by law you can only sell firewood by the cord or fraction thereof. However, the math of a 4x4x8 stack is still is way beyind many in these parts. Maybe it has to do with the 30%+ dropout rate in the high schools around here? The last cord I bought here was from a retired forester, and he has a stakeside trailer that holds 1 to 2 cords, so you can see that the wood is indeed what he sells it as being, right when he arrives. He tight stacks as well, so it is no debate as to the amount of wood.

That is the great exception in my experience. My ex bought a cord of oak from some goons shen I was moving out of her place, and it was more like a collection of small cut up wet branches and mud. The stuff I would leave and burn as slash. I challanged them as the the amount of wood, and it barely came to a half cord, by any measurement they made. They seemed to think for some reason that if you measure the length first the number comes out bigger? So they finally agreed and returned the next day with another batch of muddy wood. So I asked the ex what the ^%$# she was doing, when I had left her at least 5 cords racked by the house and another 10 cords of cut and stacked wood salvaged from the last 5 acres of firs that we had logged off of her property. Well, she hemmed and hawed, and I said 'never mind' and left it at that. She has since built a 15x30 woodshed that will hold about 12 cords of wood plus the 5 cords that the racks by the house hold. She wants enough to get her through 2 winters at any given time. Which I guess is OK, but why would you buy firewood when you live on 100+ acres of timber land? OK, never mind, complete lack of any common sense is a big reason I left...

I have a similar debate with the truck drivers that sell trash trees on the side for firewood around here. They claim that a truckload is 10 cords. My claim is that its a lot less than that, especially oak and maple that are usually twisted logs with large gaps. If they were tightly stacked straight doug fir logs, that would be on average 4.5 MBF gross per turckload. At 2 cords per MBF, that is 9 cords for tight stacked logs. Also they are green logs... when they dry there is shrinkage, so you will wind up with about 10% less wood in the end. But they sell green wood, and hence use green measurements... I burn dry wood, so I use dry measurements. Anyway, I figure 8+ burnable cords of dry wood in the end, they want to sell it as 10 cords of firewood. They are an average of $1,200 a truckload here for oak or maple. To me that is $150 a cord... to them its $120 a cord. The conversion factors from MBF per cord are rough order here, and the amount of wood on a truck varies as to the species and how heavy the logs are. In many cases you will only get 4 MBF of logs loaded on a truck. From what I see in the resulting stacks of my neighbors that buy and buck logs, I think they get more like 7-8 cords per load.
 
Wouldn't you be able to tell by the difference in weight? We don't have oak where I live, but I understand it's very heavy.

Blazin, you definitely could if the wood is dry. However, if the wood is green, cottonwood can be very heavy. Trouble is that weight is in water.
 
Joey, at least you got some good firewood out of the deal and it was still not a bad price. Still hard to believe he agreed on what a cord of wood is but still wanted to short you. I wonder what he'll find tomorrow when the other guy shows up?
 
Nice that you recognized his effort and didn'tlose your cool.
My guess is that somebody will...

When I was a youngster, I had a lemonade stand. I sold lots of it but couldn't understand why so many people were making faces.... no one had taught me to make it, I just did it (story of my life!).

Apparently there is sugar in there with the lemons??

Anyhow, nice way to make a donation!
 
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