Tuning an Englander

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dwizum

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Oct 15, 2012
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Hi forum,

I am enjoying my new PAH but would like to get a more thorough understanding of how to tune it via the three "secret" buttons on the panel. I have seen a few threads where people suggest certain settings for certain problems, but no comprehensive explanation of what each button does. Can someone explain?

To put it in context, I am finding that even with the heat setting at 1, it is too warm when it is above about 40 outside. I am guessing that by playing with these settings I can adjust the stove so that "1" is less hot than it is today, but how would I so that? How do you know what adjustments to make?
 
from left to right the three button do this;

LFF - low fuel feed - if you're experiencing too much heat at the lowest heat setting you can drop this one down a digit or two

LBA- low burn air - used to adjust air intake, set at 2 or 3 is usually good

AOT - air on temp - should be set at 1
 
Every model comes with different factory presets (i.e.- 4-6-1 or 1-4-1 or 6-4-1).

What are the bottom 3 set at on the 25-PAH from the factory?

Shaw makes a good comment above about the LFF. Dropping it 1 or 2 may help. But if this unit has a factory LFF of 1 (I dont know?) Then another adjustment may need to be made.

Raising the LBA will increase combustion air and blow air through the pot and stove faster, causing the stove to have less exchange time. Dropping it will cause slower air and better exchange time, but may result in a dirty burn.

Same goes for LFF , raising it will increase the feed slightly, so you may need to bump up the LBA (more fuel, more air), decreasing the feed, you may need to decrease the air.

The goal you want to achieve is a "Good Burn" or the proper air to fuel ratio.

Have you thought about a T-stat? The PAH is a new generation top feed that accepts a stat? Can turn on and off as needed? Just a thought?

A call to Englander is very helpful also. They would help you get squared away rather quickly.
 
I'm pretty sure factory settings are 1-4-1 on the PAH. It can run on a thermostat and is capable of on/off or hi/lo settings.
 
Thanks for the input. The LFF and LBA settings sound like what I had suspects d. It begs a question though. How do you know when the ratio is correct? What does a dirty burn look like? Has anyone ever stuck an O2 sensor on a stove? My technical brain is telling me I need data to make this decision. :)
 
PS a thermostat is in the works. I want to run in hi lo mode though to save the ignitor.
 
Don't turn it into rocket science. If the flame is lazy, orange. or sooty it's too rich and needs more air. If it burns out it needs less air. Low burn isn't optimal, it's a compromise.
 
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Thanks for the info. I was considering a lower burn desirable simply because I need less heat than I het at the moment. I guess it's a moot point though as the factory settings are 1-4-1 so I can't reduce feed at all...
 
With so many Englanders owners questioning the lower 3 buttons you would think long ago Englanders would have printed a warning/recommendation in large letters on the box that reads "CALL US FIRST" before operating your new stove. Or easier still, include a section on exactly what they do and how to set them for varying conditions and pellets. I mean it`s not hard at all to grasp the concept of those 3 mystery/secret buttons.
 
If you have the patience tunning the stove can be done by the flame's color and activity as far as burn quality is concerned.

You are looking for a bright yellow (almost white) flame with blue showing just above the burning pellets in the burn pot. The flame should be active, the pellets wiggling in the burn pot, and ash embers ejecting from the burn pot. When you make adjustments do so in small steps and allow time between the change and judging the flame so the new setting has had time to actually be in full effect (now you know why patience is needed). Make your adjustments using the same heat range and fan settings.

Note this is tunning for a clean burn this may not be the burn that produces the most heat from your stove, folks frequently discover that reducing the air just a small amount ups the heat coming out of the stove quite a bit as the air flow out the vent is reduced. Tuning is a trade off game and as soon as you get things set it will drift off due to ash buildup.

Always do your tunning on a clean stove.
 
Hey Guys:
Can some one tell me if the PAH feeds from the top or bottom.
A friend of mine told me it ,feeds from the bottom. I can not find any
info on it.
Thanks
 
Setting should be 1-4-1. If its too hot, then use thermastat on/off. The only one you should change is the middle number, the LBA. But only if feed and fan are below 3 to work. otherwise your stuck with the heat. Not a bad thing. Love my PAH. to answer the feed ?. auger pushes pellets up at a angle then it slides down tube to burn pot. really good design.
 
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