I now regret using the word unethical in the thread title, I would be in favor of a mod changing the title. I hope the thread itself doesn't get deleted because I'm interested in the story (as a cutomer of both the manufacturer and dealer). It may come down to something as simple as a dispute over money (likely) but I think it's a fair question that I posted.
Vermont Wood Pellets unethical?
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I now regret using the word unethical in the thread title, I would be in favor of a mod changing the title. I hope the thread itself doesn't get deleted because I'm interested in the story (as a cutomer of both the manufacturer and dealer). It may come down to something as simple as a dispute over money (likely) but I think it's a fair question that I posted.
Nah, keep it! It's interesting to read about. Plus, the dealer started this whole war of words. What good could have come from their decision to post such a statement on their website? Not just once but several times in bold and color! It really makes them look bad (the dealer) and they started it. I wouldn't want to do business with a dealer like that. My favorite is the "discount" given on all the pellets he have in stock. A whole ONE DOLLAR each ton! LOL. That's great.
P38X2
Minister of Fire
Djs_net, you shouldn't have regrets, IMO. Your thread title is clearly benign. This is a discussion forum and while we probably don't wanna post libelous comments, we can speculate all we want about the topic at hand. There's perhaps one questionable post in the thread but otherwise we're all just StS about one of our favorite hobbies.
I'm certain it wasn't your intention to draw any negative attention to either party and that's clearly evident in your posts.
Jeez, its OK guys n gals. Just watch what you say, grab some beer n pellets and relax.
I'm certain it wasn't your intention to draw any negative attention to either party and that's clearly evident in your posts.
Jeez, its OK guys n gals. Just watch what you say, grab some beer n pellets and relax.
It's true he is getting exposure but I don't think it's in a good way. I hope it makes people think twice before ordering from them. I know I wouldn't. Not good to run your business that way.
SmokeyTheBear
Minister of Fire
No need to delete this thread at all. Maybe it will stop people from believing everything said on the interwebby is gospel.
jtakeman
Minister of Fire
Haven't you seen the commercial. Everything on the internet is true, Right? 
As long as no bashing begins, This thread should ride. I personally would like to here VMP's side. But we probably won't hear anything.
As long as no bashing begins, This thread should ride. I personally would like to here VMP's side. But we probably won't hear anything.
whlago
Feeling the Heat
SmokeyTheBear
Minister of Fire
Haven't you seen the commercial. Everything on the internet is true, Right?
As long as no bashing begins, This thread should ride. I personally would like to here VMP's side. But we probably won't here anything.
Bon jour
LMPS
Feeling the Heat
The problem I see is that I doubt either party will make any statement on this board nor do I suspect VMP's will discuss this with anyone and thus we will all be left to speculate and wonder what happened. The most we may get is some second hand information or one side of the story from the dealer.
fmsm
Minister of Fire
I tried to call the dealer and received an answering machine asking me to email him.... That is shady right there! A business that does not answer their phone......
SmokeyTheBear
Minister of Fire
Or a lawsuit will follow, in which case we will get more information than most folks on this forum have ever seen on any subject. Just get a pacer account.
For example: http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20030831173953678
For example: http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20030831173953678
I've bought pellets from this dealer, he's pretty much a one man show so I'm not suprised that he doesn't answer his phone every time. Personally I wouldn't consider that shady.
LMPS
Feeling the Heat
Before throwing the dealer or VMP's under the bus, I think we should all remember there are two sides to this and until which time both sides have a chance to explain themselves one can not really know who is at fault. IMHO typically there are issues on both sides.
LMPS
Feeling the Heat
True enough, just do not think we should through more pellets on the pile and light the fire before hearing from both sides. He might just have a very good reason for doing what he has done.
Bought from him a few times, and met Tjakeman there the other year. That "Statement" has been up for probably a YEAR, IIRC. Havnt been back since his prices are only average. And yes, he can be tough to get ahold of, if he's out loading trucks and such.
I have been in contact with Chris (C.E.O. of Vermont Wood Pellets) and this is a portion of his response:
"The first I heard of this was from one of the guys in the mill who makes our pellets every day. Needless to say everybody here takes great pride in our pellets and he was not happy as were the rest of the guys. Our gut reaction was to have it out on line. We all slept on it and cooler heads prevailed this morning.
We have worked hard to develop a really great wood pellet and a network of great local dealers who represent our product and give wonderful feedback on how we can continue to improve. I would ask that anyone reading the blog give one of our current dealers a call and ask them about our ethics.
Thanks again,
Chris Brooks
CEO, Vermont Wood Pellet Company
802-747-1093
P.S. Please let the guys on the blog know that if they are in the Vermont area we would love to have them stop by and given the time I can show them around."
and from Katie Adams (president) "would like to add that blakeslee is not a Vermont Wood Pellet current dealer."
I think they have decided to take the high road and I applaud them for that.
Think I'm going to go down and get a tour.
"The first I heard of this was from one of the guys in the mill who makes our pellets every day. Needless to say everybody here takes great pride in our pellets and he was not happy as were the rest of the guys. Our gut reaction was to have it out on line. We all slept on it and cooler heads prevailed this morning.
We have worked hard to develop a really great wood pellet and a network of great local dealers who represent our product and give wonderful feedback on how we can continue to improve. I would ask that anyone reading the blog give one of our current dealers a call and ask them about our ethics.
Thanks again,
Chris Brooks
CEO, Vermont Wood Pellet Company
802-747-1093
P.S. Please let the guys on the blog know that if they are in the Vermont area we would love to have them stop by and given the time I can show them around."
and from Katie Adams (president) "would like to add that blakeslee is not a Vermont Wood Pellet current dealer."
I think they have decided to take the high road and I applaud them for that.
Think I'm going to go down and get a tour.
LMPS
Feeling the Heat
fmsm
Minister of Fire
I perhaps was not clear enough, he asks that you email him. I'm sorry, if you have email you can answer a phone!
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
I will add to this....this high rd approach is good for the world...however, blakeslee should cease from using trademarked names and imagery from VWP...if katie really wanted to clobber him she should file dcma take down notices with blakeslees isp for piblishing her copyrighted material....poof! Website gone....oh my...did i just say that?
jtakeman
Minister of Fire
X2 I'm off from xmas to new years. Let me speak to the Mrs. before I get in trouble though!
whlago
Feeling the Heat
X2...off between Xmass and New years...no missus to speak to due to being in trouble one too many times previouslyX2 I'm off from xmas to new years. Let me speak to the Mrs. before I get in trouble though!
briansol
Minister of Fire
I might be interested in that as well. I'm not off, per say, but it's easy going at the office and a sudden day off is easy to get.
Hmm, this could be a " PP GTG @ VT WP " 
Translation, Pellet Pig Get Together @ Vermont Wood Pellets.
I might be in, But between those holidays, only could possibly manage Friday through monday of that period. I work the holidays.....
Translation, Pellet Pig Get Together @ Vermont Wood Pellets.I might be in, But between those holidays, only could possibly manage Friday through monday of that period. I work the holidays.....
jtakeman
Minister of Fire
Hmm, this could be a " PP GTG @ VT WP "
I might be in, But between those holidays, only could possibly manage Friday through monday of that period. I work the holidays.....
Before we get too excited, We should see what days they are open? I'm sure they will have some down time over the holidays. It was Iron stoves idea, Your in charge!
Where's the rest of the gang?
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