Illegal chimneys

hearthtools said:

I get people in my store every week wanting a Box or a thimble to go through the roof or wall for single wall pipe.
I tell them No such thing you have to use Class A and show them the Large ICC poster on my wall that shows all the differnt type of installations.

Most of the time I get
"NO WAY you are full of crap and just want us to sell us high priced pipe
We are just replacing Sigle wall pipe that has been through the roof for the past 30 years and it ant burt down yet."
I show them what they need and they cant aford that and walk out the door.

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All day long. sigh......
I just explain pyrophoric carbonizaton and that usually gets there attention.

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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wow :ahhh:
I could care less about the chimney, its the clearances that scare the hell out of me. glad you got it installed properly, hope you got all those boxes and what not away form the stove! an emergency is a emergency, but still, that looks like the installs i see in busses on the side of the road up in the mountains.

oh yea most of the shop is clean, and actually I have not had a fire out there sence thanksgiving, go figure, the stove has a air jacket around the firebox and usually is never over 200 deg but once I forgot to turn on the blower and it did get real hot and burnt the paint but I got it back under control in a couple of minutes... I can not complain about it, I got all the steel for free in HS shop class and built it there aswell

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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I see the pipe but what it it hooked to ? It disappears into the pile and gets lost!

:lol: J/K ...............I take that back , I'm not kidding. :gulp:

Good eye as usual ROO, the stove doesnt looked hooked up at all.

the flue goes in to the back of the stove and the top elbow is for forced hot air

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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whats that pipe to the right of the stove?

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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How can it possibly be to code if code doesn't allow wood burning appliances in a garage? Glad you got it fixed, I didn't like the char marks where the pipe is going through the window, but it still seems questionable to me.

Gooserider

MountainStoveGuy said:

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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whats that pipe to the right of the stove?

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a piece of 26 gauge tin ductwork with all of the zinc burned off of it

as far as the stove itself not being to code, I dont give a crap, it works and keeps me warm when I need it.... I thought if it was a detached garage then everything was kosher? oh well I have used it maybe 4-5 times this year, when the local EPA agents came because of neighbor complaints on my old wood stove(last year) they just shrugged and said it was fine and not to burn green wood and that was with the flue sticking out the window

cool.

bigNATE® said:

MountainStoveGuy said:

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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whats that pipe to the right of the stove?

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a piece of 26 gauge tin ductwork with all of the zinc burned off of it

as far as the stove itself not being to code, I dont give a crap, it works and keeps me warm when I need it.... I thought if it was a detached garage then everything was kosher? oh well I have used it maybe 4-5 times this year

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I'm not sure of the exact details, Elk is the code expert - not me. However I've heard him say several times that stoves and garages didn't mix, detached or not. I am guessing that the reason is probably concern about the risk of igniting gasoline or other flammable vapors. Considering that the fumes from one cup of gas have the explosive potential of 8 sticks of dynamite, I can understand the concern, as NASA hates competition....

'Tis your neck and your garage, but as I understand it, you can't "install to code" (your words, not mine) if the location isn't legal, no matter how good a job you did of putting the chimney itself in.

Gooserider

MountainStoveGuy said:

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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wow :ahhh:
I could care less about the chimney, its the clearances that scare the hell out of me. glad you got it installed properly, hope you got all those boxes and what not away form the stove! an emergency is a emergency, but still, that looks like the installs i see in busses on the side of the road up in the mountains.

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MSG you beat me to it
that is the first think I notice in the photo was all the crap around the heater.
WOW.

MountainStoveGuy said:

All day long. sigh......
I just explain pyrophoric carbonizaton and that usually gets there attention.

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I have a piece of Pine board that was behind Red brick with mortor and no air gap
A Frankland stove was 24" away from this brick.
we pulled the stove out and cut a hole in the brick to run a pellet vent through the wall
The wood was Pryoized and the same hight as the stove.
The Felt that was behind the brick on the pine fell apart.
Some Romex that was in the wall was Yellow from heat also.

I have had the board in my shop now for 15 years and show it all the time the the OKeys that say I dont need clearance I have Brick or rock on the wall.
I will post a photo sometime when I get a chance.

At this time my time is spent trying to get truck loads of Pellets in.
Im still the only one around that can get any pellets.
Im stuck with getting 2 trucks loads of 70 bag 2800 Lb skids because that is all I can get in a hurry.

wrenchmonster said:

Well, I have to admit I never thought a member would be showing us THEIR illegal chimney set up, lol.

-Kevin

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Yeah, he deserves to be banned, flogged and whipped for that one!
Notice the nice charing on the plywood pipe spacer.

I burnt down a shop once - in WV.
With a wood stove.

It was detached, but about 30 feet from the house....it would have caught the house on fire, except that we threw wet blankets on the roof - they steamed away almost instantly!

We'll have to give the "outdoor burn exemption" on this one.

Hey, on the positive end, notice the 3 screw in each stove pipe joint!

Roospike said:

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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I see the pipe but what it it hooked to ? It disappears into the pile and gets lost!

:lol: J/K ...............I take that back , I'm not kidding. :gulp:

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The lower vent pipe on the far side is sucking air from the bottom and blowing it out over the top of the furnace. Right over the white spot where it overheated. It overheated so much, It burned the paint off the side. Then the vent pipe starts out as stove pipe then changes over to galvanized pipe right before it passes threw the chared plywood window pane?
the pipe termaination does not clear the overhang. I'm willing to bet that never was permitted or passed inspection.

Got to shake my head when I look at pictures like that. What is an inspector going to do but try to protect people from themselves. I just about lost for words. I'm saving that picture as no one would believe me if I tried to explain that one. I nominate that picture for the Hearth.com Darwin award.

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MountainStoveGuy said:

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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whats that pipe to the right of the stove?

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a piece of 26 gauge tin ductwork with all of the zinc burned off of it

as far as the stove itself not being to code, I dont give a crap, it works and keeps me warm when I need it.... I thought if it was a detached garage then everything was kosher? oh well I have used it maybe 4-5 times this year, when the local EPA agents came because of neighbor complaints on my old wood stove(last year) they just shrugged and said it was fine and not to burn green wood and that was with the flue sticking out the window

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your lucky that that vinyl soffit venting hasn't melted yet
Oh That EPA guy is probably a neighbor and is just waiting for your stove to become inoperative,,,,,,,,,,when the garage collapses on it from the fire engulfing it. hh:

Good to know it's not hooked up like that anymore.

I'm surprised the FBI didn't make a visit to that house ! .......................

bigNATE® said:

I know I am going to catch ALOT of hell for this but I will post it anyways, here is how I had my wood furnace vented in the garage until my insulated doublewall flue kit came and then I ran it through the roof to code, this was just for the weekend so we could work on plows in the warmth back in novembers cold streak

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NOooooooooooooooooooooooo , Now why would you think that !? NOT US!? :cheese:

Good one Roo I got to go bowling be back later

You made me laugh and I love the tamk you edited for BB

:lol:
Craig we need more smileys here...... The one shooting beer out of the nose is a good choice for me........... I need more paper towels now

HEARTHTOOLS, ya missed the fact that his flue is not insulated either! :coolmad:

Fist-o-Fury said:

HEARTHTOOLS, ya missed the fact that his flue is not insulated either! :coolmad:

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HA HA