who here has given up burning wood?

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It's not an all or nothing deal. Cut back to nights and weekends, or just weekends. You don't have to obsess over woodburning.

If I had access to NG, I would have a second stove to burn it. NG stoves act just like woodstoves in that they are a steady mass of heat and a zone heat. Silent to operate, no electricity, a flame to look at, a cooktop for emergency cooking. Gas heating doesn't have to be with a stupid furnace blowing burnt dust all over.
 
Par0thead...sounds like a case of spring burnout, take the summer off and you'll be ready to go next fall. or better yet, come on over to the pellet side of the business.
 
Seriously, though, if you don't actually enjoy the work, it probably isn't worth it for a modest savings. I'm sure you're not alone, it's just that most members here are enthusiasts and enjoy the whole process.

But you already have the stove, so at least lay in enough wood for emergencies and you'll be glad you have it for that.

Good advice. I am sorry the OP doesn't love wood heat like I do, but I know that one day I will be in those shoes, and I will not have the strength to drag that wood back and forth. However, I hope I will at least have enough wood around for the occasional or emergency fire. With any luck I will be burning til the end:)
 
I burn recreationally and for backup in an all-electric house. I think the comfort/savings issue is over-rated....if your house is uncomfortable or too expensive to heat, then fix it. The fact that I've got a lot of trees in my yard that the tree service would charge me to haul away also helps. I keep it instead and burn maybe a 1/2 cord a year. Which is about all my back can take.
 
if your house is uncomfortable or too expensive to heat, then fix it
Sure, just go and spend a bunch of money you don't have to fix it. Uh huh, right.
Some don't have that capability, so use wood to beat back the cost of things.
The comfort/savings issue is not overrated when I compare cost and comfort between nat. gas and wood heat. I've done both, and prefer the comfort/savings of wood.
The cost savings in my situation are a no-brainer. MUCH less for me to burn wood than gas.
I'll stop now.
 
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Im about to the point where i want to say F*** it....
heating with wood is cheap, sure, however i have a natural gas forced air furnace and a fairly well insulated home. savings per month range from 100-200$ in winter, 80$ on the shoulder season.

the only reason i keep doing it is because my dog loves to sit in front of the stove when its cooking away. how many hours do you guys put into each cord of wood you acquire? including splitting and stacking...
i should run the numbers and see how much time i am spending doing this, i bet i could get a part time job paying min wage and be ahead of spending the time prepping, cutting and splitting wood.

It's not the savings if any after gas and time that I love it's being outdoors surrounded by nature away from the hussle and bussle of everyday life. It's good for the soul ! The heat is unlike any other as well and we would not trade it for anything.

Pete
 
Burn when you want to. Don't when you don't. No need to overthink it.
 
I have enough tree fall and dead trees to keep me in firewood.
I'd have to deal with any trees falling/dying in the yard somehow anyway.
 
IIRC you buy logs? That takes a pretty big chunk of time out of processing a cord.

I have a business partner who does the logging and I do the firewood processing.

If I factored in his time, it probably adds another hour or so per cord.
 
i should run the numbers and see how much time i am spending doing this, i bet i could get a part time job paying min wage and be ahead of spending the time prepping, cutting and splitting wood.


By the time I fell, limb, buck, load, haul, unload, split, stack, dry, move, re-stack at the house, I've probably got close to two full days work into each cord. Last year I burned 5.5 cords of poorly seasoned wood (first full year) and saved $2200 in oil, so roughly $200 saved per day of work. It's hardly worth it from a purely monetary perspective, as I can earn far more per hour doing freelance work, simply working more hours.

However, I don't like working. I do like felling, limbing, bucking, splitting, and even stacking. I can only work so many hours per week while staying sane, and exercise plus chainsaw therapy is good for me. It's one of those rare hobbies that's good for both your health and your wallet.
 
Besides that, the wood is almost tax free, while your 2nd job requires fed. and state (possibly local/city) tax, then you get to pay tax on the fuel (whatever it is for you) too. Paying taxes on a product with taxed income...hmmm.

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You think like me PD. When i used to fill 5 tanks @ 275 gallons each to get through the winter i would figure in terms of money needed to be earned BEFORE taxes. THe money you actually end up with is only a fraction of what you earn. So you really have to make about $5.00 before taxes for every $3.50 gallon of oil you buy. Those 5 tanks were roughly $4375.00 but you have to make close to $6000 to bring $4375 home for the oil man. And Besides i get,most of my wood from demolition and rehabbing that would actually be an expense to get rid of if i didnt have 4 wood stoves at various locations.
 
I have a business partner who does the logging and I do the firewood processing.

If I factored in his time, it probably adds another hour or so per cord.

Heck I can spend an hour or more just driving to and from where I cut. That's not counting loading/unloading time or anything else! I wish I lived on a wood lot but I do not so I will deal with what I have. :)

I really have to get better at gathering during the summer and doing the splitting/stacking work during the middle of the winter.
 
Im about to the point where i want to say F*** it....
heating with wood is cheap, sure, however i have a natural gas forced air furnace and a fairly well insulated home. savings per month range from 100-200$ in winter, 80$ on the shoulder season.

the only reason i keep doing it is because my dog loves to sit in front of the stove when its cooking away. how many hours do you guys put into each cord of wood you acquire? including splitting and stacking...
i should run the numbers and see how much time i am spending doing this, i bet i could get a part time job paying min wage and be ahead of spending the time prepping, cutting and splitting wood.


I am surprised it took so many posts to get a comment that BrotherBart gave. It was my first thought. If someone gave up on burning, why would they still come onto this forum?

To some, wood heat is all about money and nothing else. For those, if they can find something else that will heat their home to their comfort level and it would get them out of the work that is necessary for wood heat, but all means, they should sell that stove and hook up the furnace. No problem.

However, to most, wood heat is more than dollars. Sure, many do get into it just because the cost of heating is so high but I still think the majority who heat with wood love it. So many benefits to it.

1. Much better feeling heat that warms you to the bones.

2. A more steady heat. The heat is not turned on super hot to blow the air for a few minutes then when it stops you are cold. With wood heat you are, or should be comfortable all the time. Of course there are a few exceptions just like with other things but the exceptions are few.

3. Many get enormous enjoyment just watching the flames and a grand show it can give.

4. What happens when the electric goes out? Yes, many have generators, including one at our house. However we've never used it during the winter months yet. We do stay warm and don't even need a fan to circulate the heat.

5. You can stay warm at pretty much whatever level you aim for. Some say they are comfortable with house temperatures in the 60's. Most will aim to 70 or maybe 75 while others, like myself, keep the house temperature at 80 or more during the winter months and love it.

6. Putting up wood gives the body much exercise which the body needs to stay healthy. Many folks work at jobs where they do not get exercise. Some join gym clubs and such while others put up firewood. In addition, most of the work with firewood is done during the colder or at least cooler months. This means we get exercise at times when we don't have those other recreational things we do in the summer to keep active.

7. For those who have children, it is a great learning tool. The kids can start learning how to work at a young age (which all should do) and as they progress, they may begin using the saw or driving the vehicle that hauls the wood. Even before that, the kids can learn much just by being with dad and discussing how they might fell this tree or that one. Every tree that is cut should be discussed with the young ones right then. What are the possible hazards? Do we have a good escape route? Is there something that could go wrong as the tree is falling? etc. We know of folks how have taken this stand and eventually some kids have taken to selling firewood which has helped pay for their college education. Wow! Now he is paid for some education while he has to pay for the other. I'm not sure which is more valuable.

8. There are so many more benefits and/or reasons and I hope others add to this list but I'd like to say there is much more to this heating with wood than just keeping warm or saving some dollars. Perhaps my wife and I got this from being born and raised on dairy farms but there is just something about doing things for yourself. It gives great satisfaction knowing that my body and soul have put up this wood that will keep my family warm not only this winter but for many to come. We get that even when we might go to our garden and pick a dozen ears of sweet corn for dinner. The corn is fresh; it has not laid around all day and on top of that, we planted it and cultivated it ourselves. When we pick a bushel of peaches or apples or strawberries or raspberries or whatever and we have fresh fruit to eat plus extra to put up so we can continue to enjoy the "fruits of our labor" all year long, that is extremely satisfying and good for the soul. And I am not afraid to say that I never feel closer to God than when I have my hands in the dirt every spring and my hands are picking the fruit and vegetables and yes, also putting up firewood. Yes, my altar can be in the middle of the woods and I am at peace while there.

Sorry for the long post but it just sort of struck a cord.
 
Sure, just go and spend a bunch of money you don't have to fix it. Uh huh, right.
Some don't have that capability, so use wood to beat back the cost of things.

Different strokes, PD. The previous owner of my house put in a (poorly installed, crappy) coal stove in a desperate attempt to save $$. The darned house was full of holes and drafty enough you could feel the wind blow inside. A few weekends of DIY work and <$300 materials, and I am saving 35% of my heating bill, recurring year after year, and made the place **comfortable** to boot. The same number of hours/$$ might buy me the same amount of BTUs for just one year. And all the info required is out on the 'net.

And now I can enjoy the sauna effect and pyromania of a wood fire whenever I feel like it, when my family and I are there to enjoy it, and not be a slave to the thing to save a few bucks a day.
 
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Gave the wood burning up 5 years ago gave up coal burning in 1963 every thing is natural gas in this house. The little gas coal stove cut the gas bill by 1/3. Don't have to worry about no burn day bans whitch can be 60 days out of the winter. Its to my advantage. You buy wood here. Only use the furnace at night for about 6 hours.
 
I'm not burning currently since I removed the pellet stove from my workshop. I haven't been using the shop much so I didn't need it.

Our new house was set up with nat gas and is dirt cheap, zoned and also has a gas fireplace. Our other vaca condo has an efficient gas fireplace and nat gas heat.

Wood is extremely competitive against oil or electric, but not as much with nat gas. But mostly it's because we don't have the kids at home or the stove shop, etc. so we tend to come and go a lot. We burned from 1971 to about 2001, so I guess that's a career in wood burning. It might happen again, though, if we downsize...maybe a pellet stove.
 
Well Dennis, was wondering when someone was going to say it but for me it has always been about the kids. Grew up on a farm myself (turkey farm believe it or not) and learned hard work. My kids need to develop work ethic and, in general, just how to stay with something.

Everyone here has mentioned great reasons why wood burning is advantageous but, to me, if not for the kids I would have passed. I wish I had a farm to be honest.

That was a thorough, well written, post. I pondered all of those things before I installed the wood burner.
 
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i'm like a lot of others here... $1500 for 4 months worth of propane/heat for mild winters compared to most of you guys is too much. if i had access to gas, i would use that as primary, and burn the coldest couple of months with the thermostat set lower on the gas.
 
After 8 years of wood-only heat in a house with electric baseboards, this is what I think:

1 - getting firewood is fun if you make it fun and live in a place where it can be fun. We pick mushrooms and fish and scout hunting places on the same outing.

2 - our economy is a house of cards. When it collapses, propane or electric or nat gas may not be available.

That's my .02
 
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