Getting a stainless liner installed and found over fire damage

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mo381

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Aug 3, 2011
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North Central Indiana
Having a stainless steel insulated liner put in today. When prepping stove for removal found some damage. Melted the cat.
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I remember overfiring and getting the throat red. It never really burned right the last month of the season.
I guess I know why now.
I also think I smoked the refractory box.
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I guess I learned a valuable/ expensive lesson.
 
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That's too bad, but I doubt this happened after only one overfire. The fact is, most all vc's look that way in the back after a few short years. It's too bad.

Is it winter warm?
 
I don't blame you, I blame the crappy VC design. I wouldn't spend much money on repairs.
 
Sorry, but just going to say it how it is....get rid of that money pit, and get yourself something new and more hassle free.
 
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Yikes!
 
And to think if you get into spending money on that stove the same thing will reoccur again in short time. Check the budget for a stove built like a tank, they are out there
 
Installed a stainless 8" insulated liner in the chimney. That took the upgrade budget for this year. Would love to upgrade but will likely have to fix this and get by a few more years. This and the ER bills from smashing my thumb in the splitter, wood heating is expensive this year.
 
This and the ER bills from smashing my thumb in the splitter, wood heating is expensive this year.

You have my attention again. Sorry about the injured thumb, what happened?????
 
Tired wasn't paying attention smashed in between the base plate and the log.uploadfromtaptalk1378246106664.jpg
 
Considering that you still have your thumb, the boo boo is not as bad as it could be. Just sucks that it happened at all. Good luck and happy healing!
 
Why an 8" liner? Is that what the Winter Warm Large manual calls for. I thought that was a 6" outlet?
 
The WW small uses six inch. The WW large is an 8" oval flue collar.
 
It was here when we bought the house 2 years ago and actually is work fairly decent for us, of course I have no reference because I've never had a burning stove or insert before.
And yes the ww large has a 8" oval pipe
 
Find out how much that will cost to redo that thing, I am guessing you will be over $400 in parts, the refractory backs are an arm and a leg.

I see two routes for you if money is tight:

1. See if a friend has an old insert sitting around you could put in there or find one on CL, should be easy to get an old steel insert to hook up to that 8" liner to burn temporary till you find the money to buy a real stove, estimating about $200-$400 depending on condition.

2. Find a used newer catalytic insert like you currently have (but steel) that will work on the 8" liner, brands like Buck, Appalachian, Kuma, High Valley would be good upgrade candidates, some of these can be found used for $700-$1000 depending on condition.
 
Just the cat and refractory are around $500+. Im assuming other parts are warped. Such as the left and right throat. I would consider looking at something new
 
What would be a good replacment for the ww size wise? I heat my downstairs primarily with it (Approx 1700 sq ft). Most of my wood is cut to 20-22" some a little smaller. I will measure the space when I pull the ww back out next week. There seems to be a little extra room in there now around the insert.

I probably wont be able to change until next year and I had already ordered parts before I got some of the posts read.
The ww did a pretty good job heating. I remember the night I got it hot, it never fired right the rest of last season. So I did the damage. The rest of the metal parts look straight and seem tight.

Even though its not well liked stove I will have to keep it atleast another year. I would not mind some recommendations on similar sized inserts that I can start researching though. This forum is always awesome for info, thank you all.
 
Take a look at the Enviro Venice or Boston 1700, PE Summit, Jotul C450 or 550, Hampton HI300 for starters.
 
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