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Greetings,

Day two and a half with the Drolet ECO-65. Very pleased so far. Warmest the house has been in cold weather season since we hauled the wood stove out 12 years ago. F/U hydro man and propane man. First ton of pellets to be delivered today.

Bring on the -40 C. We're ready!

Warmest regards
Heather
 
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Hey you too. Happy to change mine. Just let me know. H.
 
no way! the more the merrier.
just pleased to see a kindred soul ;lol
 
Changed for now. Observance of Remembrance Day.
 
Ontario?
 
23 degrees last night in the "Republic". Burrrrrr-ski for us, comrades! Have pellets and lots of "Red" behind my stove glass.
 
Minus 40? Where the heck do you live?

We are close to Ottawa, Ontario. And yeah, it gets brutally cold in the winter sometimes.
 
I moved from Rhode Island to Mass. Politics in both state are distructive....I don't know when people will wake up?
Have you driven through Providence in a while....Yikes!!

Small state with huge problems, that's why I hopped the boarder!
 
Yeah, but SoCo is great off season - Matunuck, the breachways and saltponds, Quonny...
 
Whoo. Ton of pellets delivered. Stored where cord wood used to be stacked under the garage. Have a weeks worth in the living quarters. Now if that back ordered plenum kit would show up. Searching thermostats.
 
Greetings,

Day two and a half with the Drolet ECO-65. Very pleased so far. Warmest the house has been in cold weather season since we hauled the wood stove out 12 years ago. F/U hydro man and propane man. First ton of pellets to be delivered today.

Bring on the -40 C. We're ready!

Warmest regards
Heather

Thank you for this post! It's nice to know that there is a reasonably priced stove out there that can produce 65k BTU's. We may have a need for a larger stove in a different location eventually- this one might fit that need nicely. I wasn't even aware of this stove until your post!

*Edit: I'm looking at the Drolet owner's manual online right now. Is it just me or are there a butt load of gaskets in this stove? I wonder how often they'd need to be replaced... ??? If you have any insights I would appreciate it. I try to keep gaskets on hand for our Napoleon, but we don't replace all of them annually. We replace the combustion fan motor mount gasket about once a year, and we replaced the door gasket at the end of last burn season, which was our fourth season.
 
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Thank you for this post! It's nice to know that there is a reasonably priced stove out there that can produce 65k BTU's. We may have a need for a larger stove in a different location eventually- this one might fit that need nicely. I wasn't even aware of this stove until your post!

*Edit: I'm looking at the Drolet owner's manual online right now. Is it just me or are there a butt load of gaskets in this stove? I wonder how often they'd need to be replaced... ??? If you have any insights I would appreciate it. I try to keep gaskets on hand for our Napoleon, but we don't replace all of them annually. We replace the combustion fan motor mount gasket about once a year, and we replaced the door gasket at the end of last burn season, which was our fourth season.


We have only had it running 4 days or so. So far so good. It's supposed to be 13C = 55 F today. I shut it down this morning was pretty hot in the house. Must invest in a few thermometers. Interested to see how it goes when the really cold weather comes.

We are heating a poorly laid out 2200 sq foot basement incl, 40 year old side split with a crappy envelope and electric baseboard heating. There are two levels of finished basement and two levels upstairs. The Eco-65 is located in the lower basement. The heat for the living room, dining room and kitchen (now open area) is coming through a hole in the floor with a grate. This hole was from the wood stove that previously resided in the basement. There is a ceiling fan running in the kitchen to circulate the air. There is a ceiling fan circulating air on the uppermost ceiling near the bedrooms at the top of the stairwell.

Seems there are a few gaskets, yes. I'm guessing I won't be the one doing the maintenance on it. General cleaning will be me mostly probably. I prefer to bake and cook and work on my motorcycle. Working on the stove will be Mr. VIBErator's job.

Reviews on it were good and we picked it up on sale, so price was reasonable as well.

Happy stove hunting becasunshine.
 
We have only had it running 4 days or so. So far so good. It's supposed to be 13C = 55 F today. I shut it down this morning was pretty hot in the house. Must invest in a few thermometers. Interested to see how it goes when the really cold weather comes.

We are heating a poorly laid out 2200 sq foot basement incl, 40 year old side split with a crappy envelope and electric baseboard heating. There are two levels of finished basement and two levels upstairs. The Eco-65 is located in the lower basement. The heat for the living room, dining room and kitchen (now open area) is coming through a hole in the floor with a grate. This hole was from the wood stove that previously resided in the basement. There is a ceiling fan running in the kitchen to circulate the air. There is a ceiling fan circulating air on the uppermost ceiling near the bedrooms at the top of the stairwell.

Seems there are a few gaskets, yes. I'm guessing I won't be the one doing the maintenance on it. General cleaning will be me mostly probably. I prefer to bake and cook and work on my motorcycle. Working on the stove will be Mr. VIBErator's job.

Reviews on it were good and we picked it up on sale, so price was reasonable as well.

Happy stove hunting becasunshine.

I'm on Cooking, Baking and General Stove Cleaning Duty as well. In fact, I should go vacuum out the Napoleon because the stove is stone cold right now. We burned it for a few hours last night when the house dipped to 65'F but we cut it off before bed because it was getting too warm for overnight sleeping. It's literally warm outside right now but I'm sure we'll fire up the stove later tonight just to take the chill off. I've already paid for the pellets, why pay again for the gas?

Like you we are dealing with a poorly insulated envelope- in our case, there is no insulation in the envelope. We have 1950's brick and block construction with mud over plaster interior walls. We have mass but no wall insulation at all and no real easy way of introducing wall insulation. We compensated by insulating the heck out of the attic and that does help quite a bit. This house had replacement windows installed when we purchased it, so that's good- but we added cell shades which helps even more. The walls are thick (brick/block/plaster/mud) so the double hung window wells are deep. On those windows, the cell shades are mounted inside the window frames. We had a winter a few years back that was so cold for our region that we actually noticed convection cold coming into the room from around the edges of the cell shades. That's probably not a surprise to you but it was for us. The convection cold was so noticeable that we did the candle test around those windows. Nope- no "breeze," no air leaks- just convection cold. Enter butt ugly thermal curtain panels for the windows whose cell shades are recessed into the window frame. The thermal panels cover the tiny gap in between the cell shades and the window frame, keeping the convection cold (and heat, in 100'+ summers) out of the room. Fortunately, buying them in neutral colors and keeping them pulled aside most of the time means that they kind of blend and disappear into the room. We pull them closed across the windows during both temperature extremes and it makes a noticeable difference in stretching the stove's BTU's and the HVAC's cooling in the summertime.

We have a handful of other windows in the house that are sliders high up on the walls with no sills (think mid-century construction) and the cell shades completely overlap the window frames, so there is no convection heating or cooling from the glass entering the house. I have curtains over those cell shades in one room because that room has an unobstructed south-southwest sun exposure, and the additional fabric helps insulate those windows in the summer. During the winter I leave those curtains pulled back.

Might I recommend cell shades, butt ugly thermal window panels (ours came from a Big Box Home Improvement Store but Big Box Discount Retailers carry them as well) and/or old fashioned window quilts, in whatever combination works for you, to help with that envelope?

Also, attic insulation really helped us. (Everyone on here probably has this story imprinted on their retinas, sorry guys, but in my own little way I think it helps the stove newbies.) Was it the winter of 2010-2011? I think it was late winter 2011- we had a very cold winter that year for the mid-Atlantic, with weeks-long stretches where it never got above freezing even during the day. That's probably typical for you but it's unusual for us to have sustained cold spells like that. We knew that we needed more attic insulation but we'd been putting it off in favor of other projects (we had some work to do on this old but new to us house.) That winter reset our priorities. We attended a local home show and talked to some insulation contractors. Because we also deal with very hot summers and we have an unobstructed south-southwest exposure on this house, we elected to have a radiant barrier tented (installed on the underside of the roof and the sides of the gables) in our attic. We also elected to have a professional insulation company install it for various reasons. Most of our attic is accessible and my husband and I aren't afraid to DIY- but there were some installation sticky spots in our attic over areas that we specifically wanted covered (an enclosed porch under roof that is now a bedroom, for instance.) We felt that the professionals could handle the tough spots better than we could. Also, this company's proprietary product was better for our application than we could buy off of the retail shelves.

Long story short, the day that the installers came it was cloudy and cold with yet another cold front moving into the region. Temperatures started dropping in the morning and continued to drop below freezing as the day progressed. The crew got to the house relatively early in the morning and they worked until just before noon. I turned the furnace off because the attic access door was opened all day long, with the heat from the house going up and into the attic- and the HVAC thermostat is in the same hallway as the attic access. I saw no need to fire the furnace to send heat into the attic and out of the attic vents. I simply sat by the pellet stove and stayed out of the way.

The weirdest thing happened- I swear I watched this happen with my very eyes: temperatures outside were falling, the wind was picking up, it was literally freezing and blustery and cloudy outside, so we didn't even have any solar gain- and as the work in the attic progressed, with the attic access door still opened, the temperatures in the house started to RISE just from the heat of the pellet stove.

I became a die hard believer in insulation that day- radiant barrier, blown insulation, batting insulation, whatever works in your particular application. I sat there and watched the temperature on our HVAC thermostat rise as the radiant barrier went up on the underside of the roof in the attic and temperatures outside fell. Our Napoleon puts out 43k BTU's, our conditioned living space is 1410 sq ft, and our attic covers the entire upstairs. The attic also has a ridge vent, soffit vents and gable vents. The thermostat wasn't rising because the Napoleon saturated the available space with BTUs and we had some to spare- the ventilated attic plus the living space of the house would be, IMHO, too much space for the Napoleon to heat and waste heat outside as well. The HVAC thermostat was rising because the radiant barrier was working in the downward direction.

My husband finished off that afternoon by rolling batting insulation over the portions of the attic floor that we aren't using (substantial portion of the attic) and that helped even more. We felt a palatable difference in the comfort of the house immediately- as in, that day.

Insulation, properly installed, is your friend. :)

I do like that Drolet... quite a lot, actually... :)

As far as tearing the stove down for a Big Clean- I've been known to do that while clad in my flannel nighty, because I saw no good reason to take a shower *before* I did the Cinderella bit. So if I can do it in a flannel nighty, a woman who works on her on motorcycle can certainly do it while baking a cake. :)
 
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As far as tearing the stove down for a Big Clean- I've been known to do that while clad in my flannel nighty, because I saw no good reason to take a shower *before* I did the Cinderella bit. So if I can do it in a flannel nighty, a woman who works on her on motorcycle can certainly do it while baking a cake. :)

;-) Oh Cinderelly, Cinderelly!!


Flannel nighties are general lounging around at home attire after 6:30pm at my house. Maybe now it will be my summer jammies depending how smokin' hot it's going to get indoors.

The temp here today is 5C =41F. Hardly worth burning pellets. Mr. VIBErator wanted to keep the stove running although just the dog and cats are home.

Looking forward to the minus 30, minus 40 Celsius to see how the stove performs in the dead of winter. Maybe we will all hang out in the basement and sweat winter out down there.

I've been looking at those ugly thermal curtains. Ugh
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Attic well insulated. Outside walls upstairs, not so much, a few have been revapor barriered insulated and re drywalled. All windows but the 8 foot front window and all the outside doors replaced. Basement was rebuilt from the block back after a septic flood in 2007. We keep plugging away at it.


Enjoy your day!
H.
 
Hey, I came back to this thread, VIBErator, to add a thought:

We have a house at the river that routinely takes wind off of the water during the winter. The house was built by a retired builder who has lived here for decades, and a current builder who has lived here all his life, whose father and grandfather lived here as well. And when I say "here," I mean right next door, i.e. we are all living in this wind in the winter. The house has 6" walls, environment/weather appropriate windows and adequate insulation for the situation. The envelope is appropriate for the climate and the situation.

Our weather station has recorded 60+mph wind off of the water in the winter, NOT associated with a storm system.

Once, when we were here in the winter, and the wind was high and off the water, I noticed cold air coming into that side of the house through the electrical outlets. The wind was coming in through the socket slits, i.e. through the openings that accommodate the prongs on the electrical plug. I put my hand down to the outlet and the wind was literally blowing in through the slits in the outlet. I could feel the air moving.

We bought URL approved electrical outlet insulating pads from a Big Box Home Improvement Store. We also bought those child-proof outlet plugs that plug into the socket slits, to keep kids from sticking things into the outlet.

It has helped. We can stand in the house with the wind howling and not feel air coming in through the outlets.

It's a small thing but a lot of small leaks can add up to big $$$. :)
 
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