I Have Spent My Whole Life Being Told By People From The Northeast..

woodgeek said:

OK. A little slippery here yesterday with <3" of snow on warm ground. I was out on the roads briefly....

I saw 1 and heard reports of several other **flipped cars**. How bad are you judging the road conditions to flip a sedan on an open road?? Did we have magic road condition known to cause sedans to spontaneously flip over?? Anyone want to explain that to me.

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i can describe it with one word. stupidity.

fbelec said:

i can describe it with one word. stupidity.

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Ill bet if you interview all the crash victims(the survivors) you will find a good % did not really have to be out on the road at that particular time.

I had an emergency and unfortunately had to be on the road night before last. Treacherous. Really horrendous accidents around here. At the junction of the Sprain and Bronx River 24 or so cars and 45 injuries, some requiring extrication. Flipped and burned car on the Hutch just before it climbs North toward NR. Many, many one and two car accidents noticed during a 45 minute drive. I drive a lot in snow, and this night, which did not appear bad, was awful.

Here is a NWS forecast that would make you change your travel plans - we did.

Later tonight through Wednesday expect snowfall rates to increase to at least 2-4 inches per hour at times...with local/brief higher rates possible. Our local thundersnow nomogram from local research by rsh suggests at least some potential for thundersnow as well within the most intense portion of the band. If the band is able to remain somewhat stationary over a similar area tonight and Wednesday...we may see 1-2 feet each 12 hour period on the Tug Hill...with somewhat lesser but still significant amounts closer to the lake and also east of the Tug Hill. There will be a downslope shadow in the Black River valley with somewhat lower amounts there...but amounts will likely increase again into the western foothills of the Adirondacks with another upslope boost. Travel will be extremely difficult...if not nearly impossible at times within the most intense portion of this band. This includes Interstate 81 from Parish to Adams.

Sounds like a beautiful winter day in Northern Michigan, might even get the barbeque out and grill some steaks!

You have snow....we don't.

Retired Guy said:

Here is a NWS forecast that would make you change your travel plans - we did.

Later tonight through Wednesday expect snowfall rates to increase to at least 2-4 inches per hour at times...with local/brief higher rates possible. Our local thundersnow nomogram from local research by rsh suggests at least some potential for thundersnow as well within the most intense portion of the band. If the band is able to remain somewhat stationary over a similar area tonight and Wednesday...we may see 1-2 feet each 12 hour period on the Tug Hill...with somewhat lesser but still significant amounts closer to the lake and also east of the Tug Hill. There will be a downslope shadow in the Black River valley with somewhat lower amounts there...but amounts will likely increase again into the western foothills of the Adirondacks with another upslope boost. Travel will be extremely difficult...if not nearly impossible at times within the most intense portion of this band. This includes Interstate 81 from Parish to Adams.

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good thing my wife hasn't seen that forcast for where we live, she would stay home, looking on the internet for a new home. i don't like snow anymore. that was good when i was a kid. now it's good for making money.

Retired Guy said:

Here is a NWS forecast that would make you change your travel plans - we did.

Later tonight through Wednesday expect snowfall rates to increase to at least 2-4 inches per hour at times...with local/brief higher rates possible. Our local thundersnow nomogram from local research by rsh suggests at least some potential for thundersnow as well within the most intense portion of the band. If the band is able to remain somewhat stationary over a similar area tonight and Wednesday...we may see 1-2 feet each 12 hour period on the Tug Hill...with somewhat lesser but still significant amounts closer to the lake and also east of the Tug Hill. There will be a downslope shadow in the Black River valley with somewhat lower amounts there...but amounts will likely increase again into the western foothills of the Adirondacks with another upslope boost. Travel will be extremely difficult...if not nearly impossible at times within the most intense portion of this band. This includes Interstate 81 from Parish to Adams.

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Wow! Anyone who has driven much in this area KNOWS just how bad that forecast is. A LOT less snow than that, with the driving crosswinds, make for very treacherous driving, lots of vehicles in the center ditch, between Syracuse and Watertown. I had put my driving plans off til Thursday, but had no idea, from Accuweather, that the conditions were like that. Thanks for posting. Won't even be tempted. Guess I'll check the NWS for Thursday....

Keep warm.

rideau said:

Wow! Anyone who has driven much in this area KNOWS just how bad that forecast is. A LOT less snow than that, with the driving crosswinds, make for very treacherous driving, lots of vehicles in the center ditch, between Syracuse and Watertown. I had put my driving plans off til Thursday, but had no idea, from Accuweather, that the conditions were like that. Thanks for posting. Won't even be tempted. Guess I'll check the NWS for Thursday....

Keep warm.

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We are planning on leaving here Friday - may take the northern route even though it's 100 miles longer.

ive actually driven in snow and ice quite a bit , variety of vehicles, best one i had for this believe it or not was an old pinto station wagon, dang thing would go anywhere in the snow.

was watching the weather channel the other night and they showed a pile up in wisconsin i couldnt believe how fast those fools were going, the people who were moving at a reasonable rate of speed were able to steer around the pileup, but the one who came flying up and sliding in just kept making the pileup bigger until the whole road was blocked. it was silly watching these people coming in to the screen some were moving slowly and were able to manuver, then here comes joe idiot at 60 MPH on ice trying to change lanes at speed

I took my driving test in a snow storm...slid right through a stop sign. Policeman said not to worry about it and passed me. There's a few less populated streets about my mom's neighborhood that grow large snow embankments in the winter....great for learning to drive in the snow in....like pinball machine.

BrotherBart said:

Wife had a Pinto Runabout and later a Pinto station wagon. You are right. They were my go to vehicles in snow and ice.

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I had a rambler american station wagon that was also good in the snow and you could fold all the seats down so it was good for "other" things as well