BITE me Ontario Power Generation. 30% increase??

If you're looking for something depressing, compare your bill from 5 years ago to a current one. I cannot believe the difference. Didn't we just get hit with an increase last month?

From depressing to rage..........
http://www.ottawacit...html?id=9166322

Expect more.

And to think some auto makers are coming out with hydrogen powered vehicles soon. So glad there are alternatives

My power bills are insane. And my latest online bill from Hydroone has so many manual entries of credits and debits that relate to nothing and all cancel each other out except for my payments, that the final bill shows a $1600 credit, and a due date of April 2013. With a TOU meter that they can read remotely, they estimated my July bill over 1000 KW high, but have now deleted both my July and October bills. Can't wait to see what delight I get in the mail in January.

My power ends up costing about 30 cents per KWH after delivery charges and taxes.

Of course, Hydro is paying 80 cents per KWH to these German companies that are building the huge solar installations everywhere. Not supposed to be able to have huge installments, so they just set up different companies for each installation. Why the H Hydro didn't build the installations themselves, I'll never figure. Would have saved a fortune. We'll be paying through our teeth soon. Makes me want to get off the grid....I may do so.

sweet jesus.
I am glad I have Hydro Quebec!

CHHHHEAP electricity.

Or BC Hydro (here in town at least, at the off-grid cabin, not so cheap). Rate 1 - $0.069/kWh, Rate 2 (after 1350 kWh) - $0.1034. All baseboard heat. Payback period for changing to anything else will be a LOOOONG time.

Cynnergy said:

Or BC Hydro (here in town at least, at the off-grid cabin, not so cheap). Rate 1 - $0.069/kWh, Rate 2 (after 1350 kWh) - $0.1034. All baseboard heat. Payback period for changing to anything else will be a LOOOONG time.

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I didnt think BC Hydro was that cheap!! In Quebec for residential rates: first 30 kWh/day - $0.0541 and the remaining,after 30kWh/day - $0.0778 ! Delivery is 40 cents/day.

We in Ontario should be proud that we now have the most expensive electricity in North America! Thank you McGuinty.

Ontario poured a bunch of money into getting off coal and someone has to pay for it. They built a 900 MW station in Brampton and 600 MW station north of Toronto and believe several more plus invested heavily in renewables. That all costs money.

kalevi said:

We in Ontario should be proud that we now have the most expensive electricity in North America! Thank you McGuinty.

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I feel lots of stuff when I read that comment. Proud is not one of them. Hahahaahah.

sounds like a kerosene lantern might be cheaper to run

Hawaii is still more expensive at Ontario, hard as it is to believe.

CBC radio had a show regarding this today ... still paying debt retirement for past nuclear projects (hugh construction cost over runs), adding solar arrays that get paid to sit idle due to hydro overproduction, selling to other jurisdictions cheap for same reason, add the conversion from coal fired plants = commercial customers get hit hardest but fixed income housing that was built with electric heat in the 70s creating big issues too. Small steel manufacturer in Welland has had to time production for night shifts only due to electric costs and we wonder why Ontario is losing jobs?

kalevi said:

We in Ontario should be proud that we now have the most expensive electricity in North America! Thank you McGuinty.

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Yes and no. Our current rate is 17.36 cents for the first 500 kwh (residential only) and 44.03 cents for anything above 500. We had been running around 47 to 49 cents for the full bore price for quite a while, but we are far from the most expensive electric utility in the state which might be three times the full bore rate.

I actually can't easily explain the Power Cost Equalisation programme that the state has for rural (off the main grid) communities as it's kind of complicated. It's based upon an average of prices in Fairbanks, Anchorage and Juneau, but it has minimum efficiency standards, a ceiling on cost (I don't know what the current ceiling is, but at one time it would only cover the difference from the average up to 52 1/2 cents, so if it was over that a person would pay the average plus the overage) and a few other things. And then too it depends upon how well the legislature funds the programme as if it ran short, then it would be pro-rated or possibly worse.

I guess the article I read did not count Alaska as part of NA. Last I heard it was.

Our provincial auditor just found that the salaries, benefits, and bonuses at Ontario Power Generation are ridiculously high for the executives and they just canned 3 senior staff from OPG. This still does not excuse the provincial government who are supposed to be monitoring the crown corporation.

kalevi said:

I guess the article I read did not count Alaska as part of NA. Last I heard it was.

Our provincial auditor just found that the salaries, benefits, and bonuses at Ontario Power Generation are ridiculously high for the executives and they just canned 3 senior staff from OPG. This still does not excuse the provincial government who are supposed to be monitoring the crown corporation.

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Though we may occasionally think about it, and others certainly treat us as such, we have yet to saw ourselves off from the continent.

As for government, the parasite that it is, they've really turned themselves inside-out. They give out contracts to the lowest bidder who then cuts corners or charges massive cost overruns, yet the rally cry for decades has been that we must pay people accordingly to get and keep the best or we'll lose them to the private sector.

I'd much rather drive over a bridge that's overbuilt and won't need to be replaced in 30 years and have a public employee that is dedicated to his or her job instead of dedicated to the salary and the benefits.