IMO, a humidifier and an OAK are necessary add-on items to any pellet stove, regardless of house set up. Installers are lazy/companies don't see the profit in OAKs which is why they don't push them.
Just an uninformed installer (and / or lazy). Just bad advice, but can likely be fixed.I do not have an OAK at the recommendation of my installer. My house gets very dry to the point that when I brush my collie, he is full of static! I have a pan of water on top of the stove to evaporate into the room.
Yes, it could, but then my stove would become a room heater rather than a whole house heater! By pulling air from inside, it is creating a circulation that keeps my upstairs at a consistent 62 degrees through the winter. The upstairs is accessed 40 feet from the stove and around a corner. Rather a catch 22 but for now I will deal.Just an uninformed installer (and / or lazy). Just bad advice, but can likely be fixed.
As others note, that's just not accurate. And if the installer told you that, they're just wrong. The air being pulled in is COLD. There is no way it HELPS to heat your whole house, or a room, or an area the size of a thimble. Cold is cold, and you must pay to heat it to be comortable.Yes, it could, but then my stove would become a room heater rather than a whole house heater! By pulling air from inside, it is creating a circulation that keeps my upstairs at a consistent 62 degrees through the winter. The upstairs is accessed 40 feet from the stove and around a corner. Rather a catch 22 but for now I will deal.
Stoves don't dry the air..period. They change the temperature.The pellet stove itself should not dry the house out. It's how you have it set up. If you use an OAK, there should be no difference. If not it will dry your house out like a would stove would.
I don't know how big the barn you're heating is, but I suspect that you are doing something seriously wrong. $0.02250 +- gone 200 left....gonna need some... I suspect I will burn between 10 and 11 tons
That my response to a tee. I enjoyed your explanation of relative humidity very much. Having gone through college for a meteorology major, there tends to be a gross misunderstanding of moisture capacity of air. Now would you like to have a crack at explaining advanced thermodynamics? My have my original post has morphed!I don't know how big the barn you're heating is, but I suspect that you are doing something seriously wrong. $0.02
They do that, don't they.my original post has morphed!
if I recall, he has the pellet boiler and is heating a house and an apt/outbuilding with it or something like that.I don't know how big the barn you're heating is, but I suspect that you are doing something seriously wrong. $0.02
Two tons down, and the first Baggie of my third (of four) ton just went screaming into the hopper. Seems like I am using more this year than last, and these wicked cold snaps may force me to grab an extra ton before the season is over. Any observations from others around the globe? Are you at your halfway point as well?
What I'm saying is, that by pulling air from inside the house towards the stove, it is creating circulation without the added necessity of fans to circulate the air. By adding an OAK, the lost circulation would, by necessity need to be created by purchasing and installing fans.The air being pulled in is COLD. There is no way it HELPS to heat your whole house,
I never installed an OAK either and I am running just fine.What I'm saying is, that by pulling air from inside the house towards the stove, it is creating circulation without the added necessity of fans to circulate the air. By adding an OAK, the lost circulation would, by necessity need to be created by purchasing and installing fans.
And by the way, Because of all the uproar on this site last year when i posted that an OAK was not installed, I contacted HARMAN directly. Their response? THsat it is not always necessary to install an OAK.
Madcodger,As others note, that's just not accurate. And if the installer told you that, they're just wrong. The air being pulled in is COLD. There is no way it HELPS to heat your whole house, or a room, or an area the size of a thimble. Cold is cold, and you must pay to heat it to be comortable.
So while it may indeed affect overal circulation, the air coming in almost certainly negates the air from the warm part of the convection loop. Find another option for aiding circulation - this one is expensive.
I must unfortunately agree. I'm done. There is just no way to differentiate between "works fine" and "efficient" in some corners of the world. It is what it is...Madcodger,
This conversation reminds me of the truth of the lyrics from a Simon and Garfunkel song,
"Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....."
People will believe what they want to believe and you are wasting your breath trying to change their minds.
Ever think just maybe I'm doing EVERYTHING wrong?I don't know how big the barn you're heating is, but I suspect that you are doing something seriously wrong. $0.02
Nobody is that consistent.Ever think just maybe I'm doing EVERYTHING wrong?
I don't know how big the barn you're heating is, but I suspect that you are doing something seriously wrong
Nobody is that consistent
My feet are not square...Just how many square feet are you heating
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