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No you are not nuts. There are some good deals to be had. The only major difference between now and 3 years from now is that some fancy new stoves will come out due to the upcoming EPA changes. Most quality stoves already adhere to the upcoming EPA requirements anyway. My $650 Englander 30 is already compliant...and its been on sale for years. It really only applies to the filthy, poorly designed stoves. So no, you can not put a Vozelgang dual barrel burner in your living room under the new rules.

If you are a stove geek you might find some of the future models interesting. If not and you just want a plain jane model anyway, those already exist and will be just fine under the new rules.

Me personally I'd be curious to see what Hearthstone, Woodstock, and Blaze King have up thier sleeves for new models in the next few years.
 
No you are not wrong. Build, instal a good stove, either one you like now, or the one you like then.. enjoy.

Many, if not almost all EPA stoves already meet or exceed the first (possible) new requirement, and at least some, the most draconian second stage. But unless they change something.. it only effects new stove sales or instals after some future date. No one is coming to remove your existing instal. No more than anyone has come to confiscate my 48 Buick or 69 Mustang. Can a company now sell such "unsafe and dirty" automobile technology? No. But No one has had an existing one taken away yet that I know of.

Heating with wood isn't going away, anymore than cars went away when seat belts or catalytic converters became required. In fact just like cars.. stoves may get better.
(don't get me started on if I think the .gov should be the driving force though...)
 
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No you are not wrong. Build, instal a good stove, either one you like now, or the one you like then.. enjoy.

Many, if not almost all EPA stoves already meet or exceed the first (possible) new requirement, and at least some, the most draconian second stage. But unless they change something.. it only effects new stove sales or instals after some future date. No one is coming to remove your existing instal. No more than anyone has come to confiscate my 48 Buick or 69 Mustang. Can a company now sell such "unsafe and dirty" automobile technology? No. But No one has had an existing one taken away yet that I know of.

Heating with wood isn't going away, anymore than cars went away when seat belts or catalytic converters became required. In fact just like cars.. stoves may get better.
(don't get me started on if I think the .gov should be the driving force though...)
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I didn't mean to infer I fear them taking the one I have. However, If I were to build in 5 years, I would want another like I have now at my cabin. Thus the consideration of buying it now for use in the future. I have zero trust in .gov and especially the EPA.
 
Unfortunately a free country allows fools to post nonsense like this on their websites. They want to paint the EPA as some huge govt. villain which it is not. There are several threads here on the EPA proposal. It is not law yet and may not be for a while. Here is a recent blog post that clears up some of the common myths on this proposal.
http://forgreenheat.blogspot.com/2014/02/4-myths-about-epas-proposed-wood-stove.html

Heaven forbid that the new generation stoves turn out to be better like the Progress Hybrid, Cape Cod, etc.. Why on earth would we want stoves that burn cleaner and put out more heat with less wood? And why would we want all stove makers to have to publish the actual efficiency numbers for their stove like BK does? What a silly notion.
 
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I cant agree more begreen. when the last epa regs came into effect everyone threw a fit to and we now have better stoves because of it. I am actually very happy to see that the new regs cover furnaces to because most that we work on even new ones are creosote factories and we see lots of chimney fires from them.
 
I have the same Hampton 300 which I like quite a bit as well ,but if I was going to build 3 years from now I think I would wait until at least the foundation was being built to know for sure what my heating requirements , hearth size , etc would be . A lot can change in 3 years , heck you might not even build for one reason or another 3 years down the road .
Personally I'd look to get a wood stove that would hold a fire longer than the Hamton 300 , just my 2 cents worth .......

Bob
 
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I have the same Hampton 300 which I like quite a bit as well ,but if I was going to build 3 years from now I think I would wait until at least the foundation was being built to know for sure what my heating requirements , hearth size , etc would be . A lot can change in 3 years , heck you might not even build for one reason or another 3 years down the road .
Personally I'd look to get a wood stove that would hold a fire longer than the Hamton 300 , just my 2 cents worth .......

Bob
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I can easily maintain a fire through the night burning dry oak, one year old hickory, or osage orange
 
There might be a new stove that comes out in 3 years that you like much better, the way I change my mind I'd hold off until I was actually building.
 
You are doing better than me Wooddust , I can get about 6 hours max of what I call " usable heat" out of my Hampton 300 using some combo of seasoned oak &/or wood bricks ...... It is very easy to control & I love it but I heat 24/7 with the stove & a longer burn time would be much better during some of these long cold winters up here in Maine .........

Happy burning ........
 
Osage orange and hickory are one step away from burning coal.
 
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