Amazing, some advice given in here, just amazing...
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forgetting the un-forum-behavior,,,,I understand the mods function there.
But, as I read this thread,, if a post is reported by a member who believes the advice given is wrong,,,you are telling me that post will be modified with the moderators version of the truth,,,or will the mod refute the advice in another post?
I am sorry if i am slow catching on here,,,just wondering now if all posts i read are the original posters words,,or moderators words that have been substituted.
Am i understanding correctly?
No, you're not. Mods rarely change anything in someone's post. I'll edit profanity sometimes, that's about it. We don't put words in other peoples' mouths. IF you call attention to a post that you believe contains incorrect/unsafe/inappropriate guidance, we'll take a look at it and maybe comment with a post of our own or whatever...but we won't go into the OP's post and change it.
Woody Stover
Minister of Fire
You're talking about the science and religion zealots in that other thread, aren't you? It should be obvious that the human race was created by aliens. But who created the soul? And after having attained the singularity, why are the aliens trying to get one back?
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stoveguy2esw
Minister of Fire
thats actually funny, i was talking to my wife last night about my thoughts of actually writing a book. "so you want heat with wood" with the subtitle "woodburning 101"
over the years ive accumulated a lot of both technical and practical knowledge (a lot of it from this site) and i think if i were to be able to tie it al together it would be a handy thing for those who wish to get into woodburning.
bag of hammers
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firefighterjake
Minister of Fire
My wife and I have actually given some thought to retiring to Canada. Prince Edward Island is a truly special province and island.
Off topic, but me too. I fell in love with that little yellow cottage surrounded by Lupines that sits on the hill above Orwell's Cove!
There was a recent thread on stoves forum , OP wanted advice on a new stove. Replier 1 recommended a dealer in his area. Replier 2 related his bad experience with that dealer. Replier 1 made some insulting remarks about Replier 2, Replier 2 objected. Apparently something was reported. End result was all messages after the Replier 1's dealer recommendation were deleted.
That is the unforumlikebehavior. Everybody expects that to be deleted. I don't care about that stuff. I try (i try)not to argue.
Here is what i questioned. If you read the thread,,,it was written that the mods want "bad advice" to be reported. I wanted to know what would be done to that "bad advice" Would a mod revise it to be "good advice"?
After all,,,,"bad advice" is something you do not agree with. It may be right, it may be wrong, but if everybody reports what they think(disagree with) as "bad advice",,,,,,,,gonna need more mods.
I just thought, it is an odd thing to want reported. Not my site,,, not my rules,,was just curious what the results of the reported "bad advice" would be,,,fossil told me..
Fair warning. Just because something is reported, doesn't guarantee we will act on it as the reporter would like us to.
I also will say that action taken is done after further research on the subject that the person who reported may or may not know about.
Often times, the mods spend a good deal of time bouncing a situation back and forth to make certain we come up with the best possible action / inaction to a situation. Often a lot of background research / pm's / emails / etc also takes place.
Sorry if a mod action isn't always to your liking, but I guarantee these things are done as fairly and with the best interest of the site in mind.
Maybe we get it right and then again maybe we do not at times. In all, the only thing I can guarantee is that this group tries to do right by the site and the members as a whole.
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I also will say that action taken is done after further research on the subject that the person who reported may or may not know about.
Often times, the mods spend a good deal of time bouncing a situation back and forth to make certain we come up with the best possible action / inaction to a situation. Often a lot of background research / pm's / emails / etc also takes place.
Sorry if a mod action isn't always to your liking, but I guarantee these things are done as fairly and with the best interest of the site in mind.
Maybe we get it right and then again maybe we do not at times. In all, the only thing I can guarantee is that this group tries to do right by the site and the members as a whole.
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mikey
Burning Hunk
Thread is closed but I am going to respond to the post wondering if we change wording. No. Well, one time in all the years I have been on here. The OP of this thread used a word in a post a few years ago. Knowing I was gonna change it. Kinda daring me too actually. 
And I did delete the offending word leaving a (changed by admin) note in the thread.
We don't change'em. If inappropriate it is deleted and we move on. Most of the time the poster knows darn well why it was deleted.
And I did delete the offending word leaving a (changed by admin) note in the thread.We don't change'em. If inappropriate it is deleted and we move on. Most of the time the poster knows darn well why it was deleted.
In truth of advertising I have to say that I frequently fix typos and spelling in the titles of posts. I do this because it makes them easier to search for in the future. And I have been known to add some paragraph spacings to make a post more readable. And I have rotated images. I do this to be helpful because it's in the spirit of Hearth.com. But changing content, no, just janitorial work.
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webbie
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Long winter, eh????
I think it would be informative to report that the number of reports in a year is probably about what I can count on my fingers.......and most are about personal attacks, not "wrong info"...
Speaking for myself and the past, we never wanted bad or wrong advice reported....the report feature is for SPAM, personal attacks and stuff like that. As we make clear in the faq and elsewhere:
About Opinions
Much of the content on Hearth.com is in the realm of opinion, both from myself and from our users. This often means Personality, Passions, Politics and other such filters which we each see situations through.
About Facts
Codes, labels, product manuals, training materials and "in the field" practices are dynamic by nature - they change! The NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) printout on my desk has already been replaced by a new and updated version. What met the general requirements last year, may not meet code this year. To confuse issues even further, if the stove was installed last year (to last years code), it does not have to be upgraded!
Code and practices are also open to interpretation, and therefore to the opinion of the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction). Furthermore, codes have exceptions written into them, exceptions which in many instances WILL apply.
For that and other reasons, readers of Hearth.com will often find conflicting information and advice. We are continually updating and improving the site, however existing articles and other entries will often be dated or inaccurate. Your product manual and label (affixed to the product) are the best sources of up-to-date Facts concerning your particular appliance.
About YOUR Installation and Stove
It goes without saying that information which is obtained for free over the internet (from afar) is often general in scope. Even with pictures and descriptions, an inspection from a distance is NOT the same as a REAL inspection. Please consult your product manual, code official, local professionals and chimney sweeps and other sources for a hands-on inspection of your particular situation.
I think it would be informative to report that the number of reports in a year is probably about what I can count on my fingers.......and most are about personal attacks, not "wrong info"...
Speaking for myself and the past, we never wanted bad or wrong advice reported....the report feature is for SPAM, personal attacks and stuff like that. As we make clear in the faq and elsewhere:
About Opinions
Much of the content on Hearth.com is in the realm of opinion, both from myself and from our users. This often means Personality, Passions, Politics and other such filters which we each see situations through.
About Facts
Codes, labels, product manuals, training materials and "in the field" practices are dynamic by nature - they change! The NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) printout on my desk has already been replaced by a new and updated version. What met the general requirements last year, may not meet code this year. To confuse issues even further, if the stove was installed last year (to last years code), it does not have to be upgraded!
Code and practices are also open to interpretation, and therefore to the opinion of the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction). Furthermore, codes have exceptions written into them, exceptions which in many instances WILL apply.
For that and other reasons, readers of Hearth.com will often find conflicting information and advice. We are continually updating and improving the site, however existing articles and other entries will often be dated or inaccurate. Your product manual and label (affixed to the product) are the best sources of up-to-date Facts concerning your particular appliance.
About YOUR Installation and Stove
It goes without saying that information which is obtained for free over the internet (from afar) is often general in scope. Even with pictures and descriptions, an inspection from a distance is NOT the same as a REAL inspection. Please consult your product manual, code official, local professionals and chimney sweeps and other sources for a hands-on inspection of your particular situation.
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