Newbie here seeking help picking new heat source
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DMbekus
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Insulate 1st, stove 2nd. insulating my basement walls made a huge difference whether stove is on or not. Didn't cost to much.
BeGreen, I know he is heating 2700 square feet. He is keeping the place comfortable from the basement with a Wonderwood to 20 F.
m67tanf, Just click on conversations in the upper right hand corner next to the alerts button and you will be at the Pm I sent you.
m67tanf, Just click on conversations in the upper right hand corner next to the alerts button and you will be at the Pm I sent you.
Highbeam
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Seems the purpose of a forum is to post your responses for the benefits of all. Using PMs steals that exchange from the rest of us. What are you trying to hide rideau?
The 2700 SF includes the uninsulated basement. I agree that if a wonderwood could do it to 20 then a PH could do it a whole lot better. I wouldn't waste the money on a stove like the PH to be stuck in a basement though.
The 2700 SF includes the uninsulated basement. I agree that if a wonderwood could do it to 20 then a PH could do it a whole lot better. I wouldn't waste the money on a stove like the PH to be stuck in a basement though.
I'm not hiding anything, just going into more detail than most might be interested in who are not very interested in purchasing a PH. Providing an easy forum for the OP to ask any specific small questions he may have about my experience with various aspects of the stove, all of which is more detailed than and gets a bit away from the subject of the original post.
Leaves the original post free of a lot of detail about the PH, and easier for the OP to follow any other suggestions members may have, in my opinion. Leaves him free to ask me as much or as little as he wants. That's all.
Were the original post more along the line of "I plan to buy a PH, give me all the info you can pro and con", then I would have gone into the detail on the forum.
If you have any questions about my experience with the PH, I'd be pleased to answer them.
Also, re your last observation, I didn't make suggestion of a PH. The OP indicated an interest
in a soapstone stove, and possibly a PH. So I volunteered my opinion about the suitability of the stove for his application. I gather since he suggested the stove that the cost of it is not a problem for him. I agree that there are less expensive stoves that he could use to heat his home. But that doesn ot seem to be what he is asking about.
Leaves the original post free of a lot of detail about the PH, and easier for the OP to follow any other suggestions members may have, in my opinion. Leaves him free to ask me as much or as little as he wants. That's all.
Were the original post more along the line of "I plan to buy a PH, give me all the info you can pro and con", then I would have gone into the detail on the forum.
If you have any questions about my experience with the PH, I'd be pleased to answer them.
Also, re your last observation, I didn't make suggestion of a PH. The OP indicated an interest
in a soapstone stove, and possibly a PH. So I volunteered my opinion about the suitability of the stove for his application. I gather since he suggested the stove that the cost of it is not a problem for him. I agree that there are less expensive stoves that he could use to heat his home. But that doesn ot seem to be what he is asking about.
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HollowHill
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Another thought about the Woodstocks - they have a money back guarantee. If you find that they do not meet your needs for any reason within 6 months, WS will take them back and refund the purchase price and I believe pay shipping (not sure on the shipping part). Check out their website for further details: woodstove.com
I heated the whole house with a stove in the basement. Put in a Kuuma furnace, Soooooooo much better, every rm the temp you want it and no fiddling. Almost instant heat when and where you want it. Don't have to wait for the basement to heat up before getting heat upstairs.
It was a country flame ovation 3000. 3.1 cf firebox, 75,000 btu. That's what the manual says anyway.
That's a tough one. technically I put wood in 3 times a day. That is a result of my schedule, I do not fill full at night for I only want a 7 1/2 hr burn 75% fill. Morning 75% fill of larger softer wood for a 12 hr burn, Then after work 1/4 fill to hold be till night refill. This would be for a 20* day single digit night.
maple1
Minister of Fire
There are space heaters (stoves), and there is central heating (furnaces). With the size of the house under discussion, the line between the choices is a fine one here I think and you could end up going either way.
Myself, unless I was in something like the currently discussed house but without a basement, would want a central heating unit. I really can't comprehend how one could COMFORTABLY heat 3000 sq. ft with a stove - as mentioned was being done earlier. Not saying it's not done - but there must be a bit of compromise in the comfort of the far reaches of the house, some temp swings, and maybe even added details like fans to move the heat around.
As also suggested above, step 1 for me would be to get the basement walls insulated pronto. What counts in the long run, long after you do whatever, is your comfort. And maybe fuel consumption. IMO that will be attained best with a Kuuma - or similar. But, if you didn't want to take that plunge, perhaps the best next step after insulation would be to try a stove (scrounge Kijiji or Craigs for a good used one) & see how that works out with your new insulation. If it doesn't - you should be able to sell the stove for what you had in it & jump to the furnace.
For another angle - have you factored in possible heating of DHW? Some furnaces can do that.
Myself, unless I was in something like the currently discussed house but without a basement, would want a central heating unit. I really can't comprehend how one could COMFORTABLY heat 3000 sq. ft with a stove - as mentioned was being done earlier. Not saying it's not done - but there must be a bit of compromise in the comfort of the far reaches of the house, some temp swings, and maybe even added details like fans to move the heat around.
As also suggested above, step 1 for me would be to get the basement walls insulated pronto. What counts in the long run, long after you do whatever, is your comfort. And maybe fuel consumption. IMO that will be attained best with a Kuuma - or similar. But, if you didn't want to take that plunge, perhaps the best next step after insulation would be to try a stove (scrounge Kijiji or Craigs for a good used one) & see how that works out with your new insulation. If it doesn't - you should be able to sell the stove for what you had in it & jump to the furnace.
For another angle - have you factored in possible heating of DHW? Some furnaces can do that.
I have not made up my mind about the DHW. Not sure what $ it's worth? On the furnace side I'm mostly interested in the kuuma, it will heat water too. If the saving are there I'd do it.
Do you have a vaporfire100 or 200?
Also, my furnace would have to sit about 5 ft away from air plenum due to chimney location, is that ok?
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