Last Fall, I paid $2299 for the Mini, plus $237 for venting, and $175 in labor in Bernardston, MA. I think that price in Burlington sounds really high!
Is Enviro Mini the stove for us??
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saigon71 said:
Yup...it definitely looks that way! I'm feeling like I need to either go to Canada or Maryland for a really good price. It's nice to know there are options out there. That's for telling me about the venting and labor as well -- even those prices are higher.
will711
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JohnM said:
Just an FYI, I did a dealer search on Enviro web site there are 3-4 dealers with in a hour of Burlington maybe worth a call to shop around do some price comparisons.
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I had the Mini installed just after the new year without the OAK. Mistake. The stove was sucking the cold air up out of the basement, since I was not using the forced air anymore and it was a lot colder down there. Watch out for pipes freezing. Since putting the OAK in, I spend no time fussing with the settings now, and the down side of cold air coming into the house through the back of the stove is not an issue at all. By the way get a copy of the older technical manual for the Mini, not the Mini A, it has more detail. And make sure whoever does the install does a Magnehelic reading of the vacuum pressure to set the best damper position. My installer did not do it so I just bought the guage and did it myself yesterday. Wow was I surprised. The info as to where to set the damper that I was given on this site was completely wrong for my stove. I do have to say the advice given on the forum is considerate and invaluable.Thanks for all the info and feedback about the Mini from everyone -- I'm learning stuff.It's nice to hear about the fact that people like it and sounds like a really good stove, as well as the OAK information -- something I didn't know about. I'll check out the technical manual so I'm more on top of things when I go back to the dealer.
WELL...with that -- I guess in buying the stove do you think there is room to negotiate the price? When I went to a place to talk about price they said $2600 for the stove, $195 for vent kit (is think that isn't OAK) and $375 for installation. Just wondering if this seems ok. I know nothing about what this should cost.
jhanan
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Did you get the mimi? Please give us a report. I'm looking for a mini now in the capital area region of NY
jhanan
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Hi Burlington- Like most have said, the Mini is a great little quiet, very quiet stove. Here is SE CT, it will heat effectively around 1000 sqft. We sell the Mini for 2399, 2599 sounds like normal retail price. Most dealers can be reasoned with, espec if you get the full venting/installation with them. The venting and install price sounded reasonable though. Good luck, you'll like the mini.
jhanan
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Lake Girl
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Chickenman - the HHT tech should talk to his dealers. Most dealers seem to neglect telling customers about an OAK or flat out tell you that you don't need an OAK when you ask (my experience). Hopefully this will improve but many learn the hard way after the install is done...
Found the deluxe terminator pipe by Bio-Vent - similar to the Selkirk DT.
http://dalsinmfg.com/downloads/BioVent-Consumer.pdf
page 7
Found the deluxe terminator pipe by Bio-Vent - similar to the Selkirk DT.
http://dalsinmfg.com/downloads/BioVent-Consumer.pdf
page 7
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As a dealer who does bring out the benefits of fresh air, its been my experience as soon as you mention extra cost for fresh air, most people (generally, not all) go away from it. Most DIY'ers also tend to want a simple and quick install, most fresh air installs are a bit more work. In my own house, I have one Selkirk system (very nice too- it went into a gas stove d/v hole through the wall, fit perfectly) and an insert not on fresh air, both work fine. When I was doing installs, most people did not want to pay extra for fresh air installs either, espec if their stove worked fine without it. So it goes both ways, but really get tired of hearing people saying always "its the dealer's fault". If it isn't theirs, then its the "stove's fault". Haven't seen many that actually was..... Anyway, good luck.
Lake Girl
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Kudos stovelark on trying to set folks on the proper path. Didn't mean to imply all dealers are like this but my experience was a flat out don't need one... why is the inlet there then? It would probably help if stove manufacturers make the OAK required like they do for mobile homes not optional/recommended (guess that's building code/NFPA on the mobile home install). User error factors in...
chickenman - Bio-Vent also has multi-fuel deluxe terminator with fresh air (page 12)
Deluxe Terminator - Type AL29-4C Stainless Steel (Multi-Fuel)
chickenman - Bio-Vent also has multi-fuel deluxe terminator with fresh air (page 12)
Deluxe Terminator - Type AL29-4C Stainless Steel (Multi-Fuel)
jhanan
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BTW, just loving my new-to-me Mini. Been running 24/7 since Sunday - running like champ on 2 or 3 - temps in NY in the upper 20's, but single digits are coming back by weekend. I'm going to wait awhile before putting in the OAK. I installed OA to my unit in the basement, but that open air design of the mini is got me wondering. Anyway, the mini has been running great without OA so far - I'm impressed by this stove.
Lake Girl
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I saw a pic of a stove on here that has a section of metal flex pipe between the two flanges within the body of the stove. Not sure about the insides on yours but it might work for you... Still enough winter left to get some use out of your new "best friend" as long as you can get pellets! Did you/Will you get hit with the snow like they did in the Niagara region?
jhanan
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Snow was W and S of us.....just got about 2 inch and then bitter cold, single digits again. I'm out of pellets - down to last 5 bags on on the hunt for another ton. My normal supplier (free delivery) is sold out. Going to have to try Curtis lumber or somewhere to finds some more.
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jhanan
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Had my 1st big Mini A issue. Stopped feeding the burn pot but I could hear the auger motor running. I looked up the drop shoot with a light to see if it was clogged - but no. Also could see the auger turning when the motor was running. So was wondering what the heck was going on. So I emptied out hopper using a cup and a 5 gal bucket and discovered the cover had separated off the auger housing. One of the little sheet metal screws had worked its way out and the pellets were just pushing out the side of the cover. Also discovered the sealant had failed too. So I removed the other little screws and cleaned the whole thing, put fresh high temp RTV on the cover and re installed it. The cover is held on by only 4 little self tapping sheet metal screws. Not impressed with the mounting of the cover, but anyway glued it back together put the screws back in and let it sit overnight to cure. Fired up the stove this morning and all working good again. So for the mini A owners out there check the cover and make sure the little sheet metal screws are all in tight!
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This is really good information and the fact that you took the time to inform us Mini owners is much appreciated.
I had a small issue beginning of the year. Resulted in the problem was my f... up. I could not start the stove. The spark from the igniter would not reach the pellets. I assumed it was a problem with the vacuum switch, but a hard to reach area in the thru wall vent was clogged. I thought I had done a good cleaning job last spring but the stove behaved just the way it should and shut down. Does anyone know of heat resistant flexible tubing I could attach to a shop vac? I will clean out after every 2 tons from now on.
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