No offense intended to Cadillac fans

Seasoned Oak said:

Most of us admire hard work and success, but what we dont like is when the rich appear to gloat or rub our noses in their success.
No one like a bragger,in person or on TV. As a hard working self-employed person in business i know the kind of commitment of time and capitol it takes to just stay afloat these days let alone become rich.

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I get that but I appreciate the risks and the rewards the wealthy attain, I'm not wealthy by any stretch, but I have to give it to them when their risks and hard work pay off. Unless of course it's given to them.

I can't for the life of me understand the hate for the Cadillac conmercial. It's a message that needs to be spread more: work hard, pave your own way, get what you want by your own hand, not by taking from others or relying on others

Right, no problem. And they could have said all of those wonderful things and more without feeling it necessary to poke our European friends in the eye.

bigbarf48 said:

I can't for the life of me understand the hate for the Cadillac conmercial. It's a message that needs to be spread more: work hard, pave your own way, get what you want by your own hand, not by taking from others or relying on others

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Then don't use an actor but someone who really worked to get where he/she is now. Like the woman from the Ford commercial.

fossil said:

Right, no problem. And they could have said all of those wonderful things and more without feeling it necessary to poke our European friends in the eye.

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Who has European friends anymore?

I'd rather Have the Ford and the month of August off than two weeks off and a blinged up Chevy.

Flatbedford said:

I'd rather Have the Ford and the month of August off than two weeks off and a blinged up Chevy.

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I have a chevy and take half the year off.

Umm, I have several European friends and I particularly like their perspective on things economic and political. Since you're Retired, I politely contend that you ought to travel more, Guy.

I'm cultivating a new friendship with some really nice and very talented folks at Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, in Bavaria.

Owning a Caddy is a public admission that you can't afford a Lexus, Mercedes, BMW or Jag.......

Redbarn said:

Owning a Caddy is a public admission that you can't afford a Lexus, Mercedes, BMW or Jag.......

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Or a tendency to buy products from an american company and support american businesses. You may need a new car cuz you will put on a lot of miles chasing the vanishing jobs.

My real point is that a Caddy is no longer close to being a car to aspire to.
The Tesla is now THE car to aspire to.
A real US success story. Great US innovation, design and manufacturing.

Redbarn said:

My real point is that a Caddy is no longer close to being a car to aspire to.
The Tesla is now THE car to aspire to.
A real US success story. Great US innovation, design and manufacturing.

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Today cadillac is not the same one your grandfather used to drive. They have come a long way since then.Perhaps they should have given the new ones a different the name to avoid the old stigma of years back. If i ever get in a head on collision id much prefer to be in an escalade than any of the models you mentioned. I never liked any of the old caddys,or wanted one, but lately im impressed with what they have done with them. Just a thought.

BrotherBart said:

If it was it would look a lot like a Ford Falcon.

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They were hot in the day. A friend of mine used to put an old coil spring between the punkin and the trunk to jack his up. Worked great until he hit a bump and the spring ripped a hole in his trunk.

BrotherBart said:

32 miles to the gallon. In 1960!

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Put a modern engine in and you will get 50+ mpg. All those improvements in fuel efficiency have been for naught due to bigger and heavier cars. Another example of Jevons paradox.

Grisu said:

Put a modern engine in and you will get 50+ mpg. All those improvements in fuel efficiency have been for naught due to bigger and heavier cars. Another example of Jevons paradox.

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Another example of a BS generalization.

BrotherBart said:

Hyundai Excel weighs the same as the Falcon did and gets about exactly the same gas mileage.

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You are right, the Falcon was really ahead of its time. I still doubt that people would buy it today even with a more modern look. Nevertheless, studies clearly show that increased fuel efficiency of car engines has been offset by higher weight and horsepower demands resulting in essentially unchanged mpg since 1980.

http://www.automotive-fleet.com/cha...fuel-economy-gains-between-1980-and-2006.aspx

A big shift in mpg numbers happened in the 70ies during the oil crisis and then some slow improvements over the last 10 years.

http://www.ibtimes.com/forty-years-...l-economy-it-also-helped-expedite-better-fuel

fossil said:

Another example of a BS generalization.

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One outlier does not make a trend.

Grisu said:

One outlier does not make a trend.

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Oh no! You've turned my whole concept of statistics on its ear.

fossil said:

Oh no! You've turned my whole concept of statistics on its ear.

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Just wanted to answer a platitude with another one. Since that will be leading nowhere good: Peace?