Innovation in Pellet Stoves

Lake Girl said:

What??

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The building inspector was suffering from Napoleon Complex. He wanted me to pull a permit and use a licensed contractor to perform a minor repair. Building Code does NOT require either so I simply fixed it myself. It eventually wound up in court. Towns here are are eternally in search of new revenue opportunities...

How did that court case go?

PS - where do you live just so I can avoid it...

Lake Girl said:

How did that court case go?

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I paid a $200 fine for not pulling a $200 permit. (for a $20 repair..)

BrotherBart said:

There is more to this story. Like what else a building inspector was doing to be involved with a gutter repair.

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Not much more, really. The town is hungry for revenue and going after DIY'ers. They hired an attack dog to do it.

hoverwheel said:

Not much more, really. The town is hungry for revenue and going after DIY'ers. They hired an attack dog to do it.

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Remember this the next time you go to vote for local officials.

Yeah this Is where you get the local media involved. Make a big stink, they go back into their holes.

hoverwheel said:

I almost went to prison a couple years ago for fixing my gutters myself, instead of hiring a contractor.

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You have to tell us what town to avoid. And that town code officer and all the town officers need to be voted out, if their goal is to raise town revenue by extorting the taxpayers.

chken said:

You have to tell us what town to avoid. And that town code officer and all the town officers need to be voted out, if their goal is to raise town revenue by extorting the taxpayers.

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I think the question to be asked here is why the town needs more revenue in the first place. Could it be that they've overspent the taxpayers money on things that are really not necessary and now they can't find the money? Find out who the asshats are that voted for the things that have been driving the budget up, and then vote for the other guys.

Remember: "If you keep doing what you've done, you'll keep getting what you got."

hoverwheel said:

The building inspector was suffering from Napoleon Complex. He wanted me to pull a permit and use a licensed contractor to perform a minor repair. Building Code does NOT require either so I simply fixed it myself. It eventually wound up in court. Towns here are are eternally in search of new revenue opportunities...

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That sounds odd. Usually the inspection process is limited to "new or improved", not to "repaired or replaced same".

CaptSpiff said:

That sounds odd. Usually the inspection process is limited to "new or improved", not to "repaired or replaced same".

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This was a customary repair of a 10' section of fascia (I said gutters because many folk say fa-what?). It was literally a matter of tearing off the old board and nailing the new one up and painting it. Nevertheless, the inspector spotted me "in the act" and fined me, which I contested. I'm not the only victim of this troll.

I'd love to return to RKBAGuy's idea of a community stove, however. This subject gives me indigestion and raises my blood pressure.

hoverwheel said:

This was a customary repair of a 10' section of fascia (I said gutters because many folk say fa-what?). It was literally a matter of tearing off the old board and nailing the new one up and painting it. Nevertheless, the inspector spotted me "in the act" and fined me, which I contested. I'm not the only victim of this troll.

I'd love to return to RKBAGuy's idea of a community stove, however. This subject gives me indigestion and raises my blood pressure.

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fascia "aint structural" ask the guy to show you from what reg or code he is citing when issuing the fine. he'd better be able to quote "chapter and verse" if he can google it and see if it applies, if it don't , explain to him that if you have to fight this in court(and do so if he wronged you) you intend to take the county (or whatever jurisdiction he works for ) to court over the infraction.

ive seen the "The judge will dismiss it anyway" reasoning, my response was "if you know the judge will dismiss it why are you writing it up?" followed by "you realize that since you said that I will bring this to suit and call you as a witness and compel you to repeat that in court" guy said 'do you know how much paper work I have to do to make this summons go away?" I said , hey you wrote not me, but if I have to miss work to dispute it and the judge will throw it out by your own admission, you brought it on yourself".

he did the paperwork, had he not i'd have lit his arse up in court (my neighbor witnessed his statement)

now back to the community pellet stove , ask away guys . I know the operational theory behind pellet stoves pretty well.

stoveguy2esw said:

now back to the community pellet stove , ask away guys . I know the operational theory behind pellet stoves pretty well.

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Understatement

LuvMyPellets said:

Is this thread still about pellet stove innovation or now a fictional town where you can't work on your own house?

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Hang in there.. few more posts and should be over 'n done with..think they covered all the building codes..

LuvMyPellets said:

Is this thread still about pellet stove innovation or now a fictional town where you can't work on your own house?

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Why so hostile? I made an offhand comment that was arguably related to the the regulatory issues a community stove could face and several people inquired further about it.

Small towns can be vicious little fiefdoms because the stakes are so small people will fight for their territory.

One nearby town fined a man for growing tomatoes in his front yard. Another fines people for using the f-bomb in public. Next door to that it is illegal to sell bottled water. Something about saving dolphins I think. All of those items are searchable by Google. They happened. Abuse happens.

Happy to return to the real discussion about stove innovations and community designed stoves...

I think this digression about codes - which is a valid point - is emblematic of what's gone wrong with America because the nanny state government has so pervaded our personal lives you can't discuss anything without it having political implications. And the unfortunate kneejerk reaction is that people don't want to discuss something so uncomfortable, so we sweep it under the rug and pretend we can go about our lives as normal, which only serves to give cover to more creeping control over our freedoms. But as noted, that's a discussion for another thread.

That said, I'll start another thread about the Open Design Stove Project and see where it takes us.

ETA: Here 'ya go. Have at it!
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/odsp-open-design-stove-project.127133/