Bit the bullet.. ordered an NC-30 today.

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SpAmSoNiTe

SpAmSoNiTe

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Well all, After reading all about the Englander on this sight and the rave reviews that it has recieved over at HomeDepot.com, I placed my order tonight. After sweet-talking a very helpful young lady on the phone, I managed to get an extra 10% off of the Bristol, Va. price(was a pain, but def. worth the $65 I saved). Should see her here sometime before the 9th or 10th of May. Then comes the fun of getting the beastie up into the house from the curb. I think I'll be borrowing the appliance dolly from work :).


While I was able to search out most of what I wanted to find in my decision making, I'de like to thank all of the previous posters for their help in making my decision. Hopefully this fall I'll be reporting back with a glowing(pun intended..) review :cool:

~Sam.
 
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Congratulations Sam. Take pictures and get some friends together to help with the move.
 
Samuel,

I have the Englander 13 and found that by taking ten minutes to remove the door, firebricks, and pedestal- two people can easily move the stove around. I know your #30 is much, much heavier- but still, lighten the load....your friends will thank you.

I was embarrassed in that I invited 3 other buddies to help me move my stove- telling them it was gonna be tough. After the door/firebricks/pedestal removal, it was so light that it only took two of us to move it. My buddies started asking me where I left my purse, if Englander made a "men's version" of the stove, etc.....a laugh a minute my buddies are.
 
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Highbeam showed a clever way to add handles to his NC30, basically a 2x4 across front and back and using ratchet straps to pinch the stove in between. My large baby boy on one side and my wife and I on the other carried it fine. (I'm 67, if that means anything)
 
Charlie2 said:
Highbeam showed a clever way to add handles to his NC30, basically a 2x4 across front and back and using ratchet straps to pinch the stove in between. My large baby boy on one side and my wife and I on the other carried it fine. (I'm 67, if that means anything)
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Depends. That's not you in that picture, is it? ;lol
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I managed to manhandle my 30 out of the previous owner's house by removing door & bricks, on a regular appliance dolly, and three arms between us.

Oh, yeah... great choice. You'll love the stove.
 
Charlie2 said:
Highbeam showed a clever way to add handles to his NC30, basically a 2x4 across front and back and using ratchet straps to pinch the stove in between. My large baby boy on one side and my wife and I on the other carried it fine. (I'm 67, if that means anything)
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I'll have to see if I can find a pic. of that. I think my wife and I are gonna do the remove the bricks and strap it to a dolly thing.. She's no wimp and its only gotta go up three steps into the house. Is there any brackets that hold the bricks, or do they just sit in there?
 
The bricks just lift out. Take out the bricks and the door off and you have around 110 pounds that you don't have to heft. I have moved two into the house, one out and one into the walk-in basement by myself scrawny oldself. Just take it easy and plan each move one step at a time. And be careful.

And here's yer shirt.

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Here's my trick. It worked great with the bricks in, the door on, and some sort of blower in the firebox. Lift with your legs.
 

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Nice trick. Hey, do you have any scraps of the Wonderboard left? The website says that Wonderboard Lite is made with EPS (styrofoam) beads, but I don't see that mentioned in the material safety sheet. I have checked Durock NexGen and it is made with perlite beads. Can you scrape out a few of those white beads and see how they react to flame?

http://www.custombuildingproducts.c...onderboard-lite-backerboard.aspx#prodTechDocs
 
I have a ragged edge that I can pop some of the beads from. They are white beads, all covered to some extent by the cement based binder.
 
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SpAmSoNiTe said:
I'll have to see if I can find a pic. of that. I think my wife and I are gonna do the remove the bricks and strap it to a dolly thing.. She's no wimp and its only gotta go up three steps into the house. Is there any brackets that hold the bricks, or do they just sit in there?
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Perfect- believe it or not, the bricks actually need to go in a certain way, according to the manual. I'll zap you a copy of the page if you need it and can't find it here someplace.
 
SpAmSoNiTe said:
Well all, After reading all about the Englander on this sight and the rave reviews that it has recieved over at HomeDepot.com, I placed my order tonight. After sweet-talking a very helpful young lady on the phone, I managed to get an extra 10% off of the Bristol, Va. price(was a pain, but def. worth the $65 I saved). Should see her here sometime before the 9th or 10th of May. Then comes the fun .....

:cool:

~Sam.
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Ummm,;? :p;lol

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Congrats on the NC30!
 
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Thanks for the picture highbeam.. Pretty good thinkin' there!

Bluedogz, I have a copy of the manual from esw's site but thanks for the page offer.

And centertree, lol. Don't think She'd want to see me when her supervisors see what I got knocked off my stove.. Total shipped(which it did this morning already!) Was 729 :)
 
You got a GREAT deal!:cool:

Got mine for $750 shipped and I thought THAT was good.
 
Bricks are rather simple but I used a sharpie and marked all mine before removal just to be safe. Depending on your preference many of us took the ash plug out before ever using the stove and replaced it with a brick. Just buy a brick(or two) from TSC or equivalent and cut it with an angle grinder to fit. The plug is a PIA in my opinion and just gets in the way. I also found with mine a full brick fits in place of the cornered one that goes by the latch. Not a big deal but I have a full brick in there as well. No bad reason for having a couple extra firebricks laying around.

I moved mine onto the hearth by myself with all the extras removed - Enjoy the heat.
 
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Nice trick. Hey, do you have any scraps of the Wonderboard left? The website says that Wonderboard Lite is made with EPS (styrofoam) beads, but I don't see that mentioned in the material safety sheet. I have checked Durock NexGen and it is made with perlite beads. Can you scrape out a few of those white beads and see how they react to flame?

http://www.custombuildingproducts.c...onderboard-lite-backerboard.aspx#prodTechDocs
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I pulled out a small pile of the beads last night and held a match to the stack. The beads shrink down to nothing as I would expect polystyrene beads would. Perlite wouldn't shrink away would it? Lots of cement binder so even if all the beads went away, the now porous concrete panel would still provide the strength. Maybe even the insulation value since the missing beads would be trapped air pockets.
 
Thanks for that test. Perlite is like pumice, a volcanic mineral and pretty heat resistant. Because it is used in it's already expanded state it won't outgas or melt.
 
So I finally got my stove on May 9th and got her up on the hearth. Man was this sucker much more heavy than the old one was to get out(isn't that always the case?)!. Still need to scoot her into final position later this summer when I put up the new chimney. Good service from Home Depot but their idiot subcontractor didn't see my wife waving her arms frantically to stop as he backed into our driveway and pulled a low hanging telephone wire from it's mount on the side of the house :mad:

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Lookin good. Yeah those HD drivers are scary. When they delivered my fridge the guy stopped too soon coming up the hill/driveway and skidded a twenty foot box truck backward with the brakes on and stopped one foot from the pole with the transformer on it. !!!

PS: Your are gonna like that heater.
 
I gotta admit, the first thing I did was pull that stupid, crooked, sticker off the ash lip. Mine was like your and not even glued down flat.

My HD driver was freaking awesome. He backed that tractor/trailer rig up like nobody's business. Nailed a 180 degree turn backwards and set the drop gate down right on my slab.
 
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My HD driver was freaking awesome. He backed that tractor/trailer rig up like nobody's business. Nailed a 180 degree turn backwards and set the drop gate down right on my slab.
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Probably the regular driver was off sick. ;lol

For the HD delivery of my second 30-NC I took the garden tractor down to the end of the 900 foot winding gravel driveway and had the guys just put it in the little trailer. They were ecstatic. Tipped'em anyway.
 
you're gonna love this stove (at least after the burn in, it's gonna stink and offgas smoke for an hour or so)

feel free to drop me a line if you run into any questions, I see BB has already supplied the "virtual tee shirt"( I gotta get some of those printed off).

Welcome to the ESW family!
 
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