NC educators leaving the state

BrotherBart said:

I don't see anything there that says they asked veterans which they prefer, as you suggested.

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It's not there. But it does show that the government run VA healthcare system failing vets.

Dana B said:

It's not there. But it does show that the government run VA healthcare system failing vets.

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And the private healthcare industry is failing the poor. What does that have to do with the difference between private and public schools or more specifically the education funding in NC?

Jags said:

I did. I asked my father on several occasions. He is the one that convinced me to get my paperwork in for it.

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I tried to tell a Korean about the basics of Buddhism one time. Talked for 3 minutes before she very politely corrected me. I knew everything when I was 23.

Mrs. Krabappel said:

The local school did not get the money. They are funded based on the number of kids attending the school, unless the cyber school was through that location.

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In our case (Pa) the local school district gets a 20% ransom for every kid in cyber school in their district. It was part of the initial agreement to allow cyber schools to operate in Pa. Dont know exactly why cyber schools should need the local schools permission to begin with,but now the public schools are re-thinking their position,and feeling somehow shortchanged with their 20% possibly because the falling enrollment in the local schools does not look good for them while the budget continues to spiral upward and they seem to be at a loss for an explanation. Translation: Cyber school seems to have introduced a little competition in the education monopoly and those running the monopoly are feeling some heat.

Is it a private or public cyber school? Who pocketed the rest of the money?

Mrs. Krabappel said:

Is it a private or public cyber school? Who pocketed the rest of the money?

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I guess it would be considered a public cyber school as there is no charge to the family of the student and any one can apply.

Seasoned Oak said:

I guess it would be considered a public cyber school as there is no charge to the family of the student and any one can apply.

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Here is a link to a Cyber School in PA

I've never heard about these cyber schools but I came across this link. It sounds great but the notion of cyber schools reminds me of my main objection to the ubiquitous nature of technology in our lives today. It's causing us to lose our ability to relate to other through personal interaction. My son and daughter are only three and two. They go to daycare two days a week and although it's very costly I can see the positive effect that it's had on their social development. That makes it money well spent. I think children need that socialization throughout their developmental years into young adulthood and sitting at home staring at a screen all day does not provide it.

I thought the PA cyber school was an excellent setup ,but we only did it for 1 year as my daughter wanted to get back with her friends more. Im mostly satisfied with our local public schools with the exception of its top heavy with way too many administrators and adm Asst. and their fleet of secretaries for such a small town as this. They keep cutting teacher staff,increasing class sizes, but never cut any 6 figure Adm positions. Too many chiefs and not enough indians.

Dana B said:

Here is a link to a Cyber School in PA

I've never heard about these cyber schools but I came across this link. It sounds great but the notion of cyber schools reminds me of my main objection to the ubiquitous nature of technology in our lives today. It's causing us to lose our ability to relate to other through personal interaction. My son and daughter are only three and two. They go to daycare two days a week and although it's very costly I can see the positive effect that it's had on their social development. That makes it money well spent. I think children need that socialization throughout their developmental years into young adulthood and sitting at home staring at a screen all day does not provide it.

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You are missing a golden opportunity with your children by sending your children to daycare ... instilling your morals and values as you stated in your post from the other thread. Yes, socialization is important but find friends with children the same age and set up play dates. When my kids were home with me, TV was a small part of their lives. We made home-made playdough, read books, painted, colored, went for walks, gardened, baked, made sand castles, went to the library, did groceries, cleaning, laundry and banking, etc. Time and space to be an individual ... figure things out for themselves and experiment with their environment...to become confident and responsible individuals. Time for discussions of right or wrong and the ever important Why (no shame in saying I don't know, but finding the answer together models a positive behavior)? Don't blame others when you are sliding on your part in raising your children...

Seasoned Oak said:

I thought the PA cyber school was an excellent setup ,but we only did it for 1 year as my daughter wanted to get back with her friends more. Im mostly satisfied with our local public schools with the exception of its top heavy with way too many administrators and adm Asst. and their fleet of secretaries for such a small town as this. They keep cutting teacher staff,increasing class sizes, but never cut any 6 figure Adm positions. Too many chiefs and not enough indians.

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Lake Girl said:

You are missing a golden opportunity with your children by sending your children to daycare ... instilling your morals and values as you stated in your post from the other thread. Yes, socialization is important but find friends with children the same age and set up play dates. When my kids were home with me, TV was a small part of their lives. We made home-made playdough, read books, painted, colored, went for walks, gardened, baked, made sand castles, went to the library, did groceries, cleaning, laundry and banking, etc. Time and space to be an individual ... figure things out for themselves and experiment with their environment...to become confident and responsible individuals. Time for discussions of right or wrong and the ever important Why (no shame in saying I don't know, but finding the answer together models a positive behavior)? Don't blame others when you are sliding on your part in raising your children...

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As I stated my children only go to daycare two days a week. Three days they are home with my wife and the last two with me. My wife and I try to take advantage of every moment that we're with them in the ways that you mentioned. However I see the value in them having that time to interact with their peers in their age group and those children that are also slightly older and younger. We can't really offer that opportunity at home as I don't think we could schedule that level of play dates. I find that the daycare atmosphere is also not at all anything like the social/political indoctrination centers that are our K-12 public schools.

Dana B said:

the social/political indoctrination centers that are our K-12 public schools.

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And you know this - how?? I thought you were having specific bad experiences with a local school. You're taking someone else's perspective instead of forming your own ... as your children aren't even in school yet. I taught my children to be independent thinkers ... They stood up to bullies, said no to drugs, stood up for rights enshrined in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms (Canada) in Grade 5 supported by their parents. Yes we had a go with a public school and segregation of a specific student population - that stopped. My husband served on the School Board. I volunteered to assist with their swim program (among other things) because there were too many children who didn't know how to swim and way too many lakes and rivers around here. Education isn't and shouldn't be a hands-off approach. If you don't like something or want to improve a school, you have the power to change it by being involved in a positive way and encouraging others to do the same.

There is nothing wrong with being indoctrinated (educated socially and intellectually, etc.) as long as that indoctrination is mostly positive. Of course, expecting your schools to instill every possibly human value in your children is not realistic...especially since so many people think differently!

Since we all need more memes, I thought the one below was apt.

Realistically, those are closer to my values..than the status quo. But many Americans seem to fight against things which seem so logical and reasonable.
To be fair, most Danes cannot afford a powerboat, so they have to sail instead....so there are down sides to this way of life where you value actual education and daily living. You can't have quite as many toys.

Charter schools article on reuters that is pretty enlightening in many ways ...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-usa-charters-admissions-idUSBRE91E0HF20130215

begreen said:

Charter school pimping Koch Brothers, Gov. Pope and ALEC spewing legislators can chew on this table for awhile. American high schools have achieved their highest rate of graduation. According to a new report, for the first time in American history the national high school graduation rate surpassed 80% in 2012 and is projected to reach 90% by 2020. Suck it boys.

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https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2013/2013309/tables/table_03.asp

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High School Literacy Rates

The article discusses the fact that 15 million high school graduates over the last 15 years can't even read at the basic reading level. So what good is touting graduation rates if not all of the graduates are even capable of reading at a basic level?

But I guess I'm just a Koch brothers stooge. How predictable and pathetic. It never ceases to amaze that those to whom complete distrust of industry comes so easily have no issue whatsoever in believing everything that the government tells them, hook, line and sinker.

webbie said:

There is nothing wrong with being indoctrinated (educated socially and intellectually, etc.) as long as that indoctrination is mostly positive. Of course, expecting your schools to instill every possibly human value in your children is not realistic...especially since so many people think differently!

Since we all need more memes, I thought the one below was apt.

Realistically, those are closer to my values..than the status quo. But many Americans seem to fight against things which seem so logical and reasonable.
To be fair, most Danes cannot afford a powerboat, so they have to sail instead....so there are down sides to this way of life where you value actual education and daily living. You can't have quite as many toys.


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I don't expect nor do I want the public school system to instill any values in my children. It is my right, duty and pleasure to install values in my children. The public school system's function is to tech them how to read, write, do arithmetic, learn about non-revisionist history and objective science etc etc

Also comparing Denmark to the US is comparing apples and oranges. the populations of each nation and the issues the deal with are completely different.

Dana B said:

I don't expect nor do I want the public school system to install any values in my children. It is my right, duty and pleasure to install values in my children. The public school system's function is to tech them how to read, write, do arithmetic, learn about non-revisionist history and objective science etc etc

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So teachers should be indifferent to lying, stealing, harassment, disrespect, violence, tardiness, destruction of common property, intolerance, arrogance etc. etc.?

And btw. I hope my kid's school is teaching revisionist history instead of passing on made-up fairy tales just because some group likes the moral of it but which never occurred that way. Non-revisionist history and objective science are mutually exclusive.

BrotherBart said:

Yeah, every kid I haven't raised yet is gonna be perfect.

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I'd have to be spending my lunch counseling those kids about kindness and acceptance of all.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...rter-schools-andrew-broy-district-run-schools

Innovation at charter schools apparently means kick out the low performers.

did anyone see the Frontline program about Michelle Rhee and the DC schools? Entrenched interests never want to give anything up.

here's the link: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/education-of-michelle-rhee/