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There is Kopi Luwak and then there is everything else. ;lol
 
I find it to be like pizza and beer, even bad coffee is better than no coffee.
Amen to that......although some coffees are better than others.


I use the mesh.
Me too. I also use a percolator instead of an auto drip. I just think the coffee comes out better.


I've found that no matter what kind of beans we grind in it (ie: high dollar Starbucks beans vs. cheapo supermarket brand beans on sale), it makes a darn good cup of coffee, which leads me to conclude that brewing a good cup of coffee just requires freshly ground coffee.
I used to argue with you, but now, I truly believe this to be the case.

It is especially important for me as a little coarser ground helps out in my situation.
 
What's a Kopi Luwak
That's coffee that has been eaten by a Civet Cat and then the beans are collected "post digestion". The cat supposedly only eats the best beans, and their digestive enzymes make the coffee considerably better than before..........It is expensive ($350 a pound), but I can't drink poop coffee.
 
I can think of a lot of easier ways to roast coffee.
 
That's coffee that has been eaten by a Civet Cat and then the beans are collected "post digestion". The cat supposedly only eats the best beans, and their digestive enzymes make the coffee considerably better than before..........It is expensive ($350 a pound), but I can't drink poop coffee.
Me, honnestly if I would be offer a cup, at least I would try it . But I am to darn cheap to pay 350$/lbs for coffe, specially when this coffe , in fact is poop :p !
 
Really? The Bunn A10 measures only 14" and change, and usually receives better reviews.

CoffeeGeek.com overall user ratings:
- Bunn A10 = 9.05
- Breville BDC600XL = 7.40

Amazon.com ratings:
- Bunn A10 = 4.5 out of 5 stars
- Breville BDC600XL = 3.6 out of 5 stars

I didn't base my choice on overall user review ratings (note the CoffeeGeek rating is skewed by one guy who gave the Breville a zero), but the content of the reviews is (mostly) worth while.

From my perspective, I'm looking at these things beyond just making a good cup of coffee. IMO part of that equation is fresh ground. I've got a grinder, but I hate using it. PITA to clean up, kind messy. Another tool to drag out. Another thing for me is I'm the only coffee drinker here. So 95% of the time, it's a single cup brew. So having the grinding fresh & easy combined with easy & quality brewing has my interest - along with being able to do that for one cup or a pot for those very odd times there's company here to help me drink it. I like the convenience & brew quality of the Tassimo - but don't like all the garbage it creates & pod cost.
 
Greetings maple, These burr grinders we have must be taken apart to clean. What I found works well is: Using the compressed air with a parts tip. I can spin the burr wheel with a paddle pop stick, you know from a popsicle, and blow till it's as clean as you would get it by taking it apart.

Richard
 
From my perspective, I'm looking at these things beyond just making a good cup of coffee. IMO part of that equation is fresh ground.
I was in your camp on this for many, many years. Always ground my own, although I didn't have the $$ for a true burr grinder in those days. In any case, pre-ground and vacuum packed coffee stays nice and fresh in the fridge for at least a week after opening, and I go thru a 500g pack in about that time, so I've gone back to buying ground the last few years. The grind quality and consistency of a commercial grinder is far superior to the typical counter-top grinder. I do believe my coffee is better, buying ground.

The down side to this is that once I open a pack, I want to use it all, before switching to something else. When I ground my own, I didn't mind letting the beans sit, and would usually have 3 different types in open containers at any given time.
 
Hi Joful, I da no. I've done it both ways. Beans stay fresh for a long time. except if kept in damp conditions in a poor container. We've purchased coffee in the old country, where it's shipped from place to place in burlap sacks, just like here, than poured into open wooden barrels. When you grind it, out comes the flavor and goodness. The finer it's ground the faster it goes off.

I don't blame you for not wanting to grind each time.

When I was young I was fine grinding coffee to last for a while, father told me it would die fast. I wouldn't listen, I was too smart. Sure enough daddy was right again. It looses something every hour, yes, you can slow it down, but.....
 
Well, I'm not anti-grind your own, but I prefer European coffees, and traditionally, very few of them are available in whole bean. You can find some of them in whole bean now, but still most euro roasters sell ground and vacuum packed, only.
 
I was in your camp on this for many, many years. Always ground my own, although I didn't have the $$ for a true burr grinder in those days. In any case, pre-ground and vacuum packed coffee stays nice and fresh in the fridge for at least a week after opening, and I go thru a 500g pack in about that time, so I've gone back to buying ground the last few years. The grind quality and consistency of a commercial grinder is far superior to the typical counter-top grinder. I do believe my coffee is better, buying ground.

The down side to this is that once I open a pack, I want to use it all, before switching to something else. When I ground my own, I didn't mind letting the beans sit, and would usually have 3 different types in open containers at any given time.

That's the catch-22 I'm in. Since I'm the only coffee drinker here 95% of the time, any time I buy ground coffee a lot of the good is gone out of it before I get to brewing it. There has even been a time or two that I threw the last half of a can in the compost. Before we got the Tassimo, I was taking to grinding a couple grinder loads while I was at it, and keeping the ground stuff in a sealed can in the fridge. That helped, but doing the grinding thing was still a pain & I still had to do it quite often if I wanted to keep the stuff in the fridge fresh.

Maybe I just have to up my consumption by a factor of 2 or 3.


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My wife is a serious coffee drinker and fresh grinds at least once daily, sometimes more. We've been using the same Melitta burr grinder for 27 years now and have only replaced the stones once. I have no idea if the new ones are as good, but that little machine never ceases to impress me.
 
Tell you what: We get whole beans from Costco, Not cheap but nothing fancy, it's good. The roast is a big proof of the flavor, the French burn their bean according to the taste of some, others like it. Some I know buy flavored beans, I don't mind that, what I do like is good beans that are well roasted. You can eat a bean and tell, don't you think?
I've just gone three days of drinking tea, I try to like tea sometimes, but after having this talk with you guys I'm gone make a Surgamon [ Coffee Pot ] full, making sure there is exactly enough perfectly ground coffee for the amount of water. My mouth is watering for great cup or two.

Richard
 
Yeah that is what I was talking about back in post #37. It ain't gonna be pretty.
 
The drought in Brazil mentioned in that article is compounding the issue. Now this fungus attack in Costa Rica is spreading through Central America. Combined they are setting us up for some pricey joe.
 
The drought in Brazil mentioned in that article is compounding the issue. Now this fungus attack in Costa Rica is spreading through Central America. Combined they are setting us up for some pricey joe.

My local supermarket chain used to offer their own store brand of coffee beans but no more. They were the cheapest so we always went with them, but my wife was in the store the other day and couldn't find them. One of the stockers said that they just decided the margins were too thin and decided to stop carrying their own brand... Been buying Eight O' Clock beans lately.
 
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