My Geospring

Brian26 did you buy you unit this year? When i bought mine this week Lowes said $599 was with rebate. Are you saying you got another 400 rebate on to top of that. This year CT energy stopped the rebates and made them instant rebates at the store.

FYI the reason the store clerk said they were selling so well in CT is that people were buying them at 599 in CT and then selling them for 999 in other states that dont have a rebate. Lowes is not validating that you are a CT resident.

lostDuck said:

Brian26 did you buy you unit this year? When i bought mine this week Lowes said $599 was with rebate. Are you saying you got another 400 rebate on to top of that. This year CT energy stopped the rebates and made them instant rebates at the store.

FYI the reason the store clerk said they were selling so well in CT is that people were buying them at 599 in CT and then selling them for 999 in other states that dont have a rebate. Lowes is not validating that you are a CT resident.

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I bought it last summer in June or July. I caught it on sale for $900 online with free site to store shipping and used the $400 CLP and $300 federal rebate. So I got a steal on it for $200. I guess they are instant rebates then now. That is kind of better as you don't have to deal with the paperwork and waiting for the check. They also did mention they have the right to come inspect but they didn't for mine or my mothers. The instant rebate looks to eliminate that hassle.

I guess its like the LED Cree bulbs that have the instant rebate as well. I saw in the Norwalk store people were buying shopping carts of them when they were at $3.97 a bulb. Probably from New York.

Either way I love mine and you will recoup the cost very quickly with CT's crazy expensive electric prices. Just saw another rate increase is coming. 2nd this year. We might hit .25 a kwh with this one!

I wish I could export data with my Efergy energy monitor. I have been monitoring my Geospring for a awhile now and its crazy how little power these use in heat pump mode. Last 2 days mine used 1.5 kwhs each day.

If they are not checking residency this is a great price and probably worth the drive to people in surrounding states.

Brian26 not to derail the conversation but where did you see the .25 a kwh increase. At that rate I may have to look at solar

lostDuck said:

Brian26 not to derail the conversation but where did you see the .25 a kwh increase. At that rate I may have to look at solar

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I currently pay about .20-.22 kwh through clp. That includes all the distribution charges. The next increase will bring my total kwh cost close to .25kwh. I divide my total kwh usage by my monthly bill. I have been averaging .20-.22 kwh total cost. There was a rate increase on the actual electrical cost and one on the service charges is coming next month. I know you can shop around on the actual electrical part of it but I found most are variable rates and you only get a cheaper price for a few months. It was all over the news recently about people switching then their rates skyrocketing. I get my power directly from clp as their price seems very stable.

Still paying about 10c a Kwh Must be the nuke plant.

BrotherBart said:

All in or just the Kwh piece of the bill? Ignoring the rest including delivery charge mine is 9.4 cents a Kwh. All in it is 12.6.

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About the same 12c. If you include the meter minimum charge which is almost 15% of the bill .
I think my bill is reasonable at about $100 a month ,since i have 2 ref a deep freeze,dishwasher,electric stove,electric dryer and water heater. Numerous computers and tvs going.

Seasoned Oak said:

Still paying about 10c a Kwh Must be the nuke plant.

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We pay less than 10 cents per kwh all in. 1000 kwh for under 100 bucks. Not nuke, well, they say 1% nuke on the bill. Something like 42% hydro. Just got my bill yesterday and compared to the same period last year I am down 25%. It was a little warmer outside but we're doing something right.

We are averaging in the 450-500Kwh/month used. Generating, on average, about 10-15% more than that (averaged over a year) via our panels.

This brings me to the desire to put in a ASHP water heater - burning oil for that right now. I've ordered a Nyle Geyser and hope to use that with my existing tank - will see how it works out. I also was very close to buying a Geospring but don't really want to give up my oil backup and having two tanks seems excessive (although piping to allow bypass of one or the other did cross my mind...).

Ok. If you have a new-ish indirect tank, I can see the Nyle over the geospring. Your boiler is aok going cold for the summer, or is cold-start?

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BrotherBart said:

All in or just the Kwh piece of the bill? Ignoring the rest including delivery charge mine is 9.4 cents a Kwh. All in it is 12.6.

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Do the math on my bill from Connecticut Light and Power. Cost more just to deliver the power than the actual energy charge.. That's why my Geospring has paid for itself very quickly. They just raised rates for the second time this year. I think we will hit .25kwh by the end of the year...

Has any other geospring users looked into bringing outside air into the unit? Perhaps a dryer vent type setup that pulls in the warm outside air to boost efficiency. My basements stays about 50-60 year round but I notice the shorter run times on the compressor when its a hot day out and its on the higher end.

544 KWH/109.60 .20147 KWH.

Your delivery bill is also likely paying for the big rebate you got on that water heater.

ELectric Utilities need not get too ambitious with the prices or they may fuel a big rooftop solar boom and find themselves with too much capacity and fewer customers.

Seasoned Oak said:

ELectric Utilities need not get too ambitious with the prices or they may fuel a big rooftop solar boom and find themselves with too much capacity and fewer customers.

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Exactly. My neighbor just got solar installed and during the analysis they commented to her that my roof was beyond ideal for it. Basically full sun from 10am on. I am having someone stop by next week to run some numbers. I may generate way more than I actually consume.

woodgeek said:

Ok. If you have a new-ish indirect tank, I can see the Nyle over the geospring. Your boiler is aok going cold for the summer, or is cold-start?

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I'm not sure - I'm assuming the boiler is ok. It is rather new (5 years old?) - Veissman unit if that tells anyone anything. I'll be rather annoyed if I have to keep it burning all summer....

Brian26 said:

Exactly. My neighbor just got solar installed and during the analysis they commented to her that my roof was beyond ideal for it. Basically full sun from 10am on. I am having someone stop by next week to run some numbers. I may generate way more than I actually consume.

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Except at night.

Slow1 said:

I'm not sure - I'm assuming the boiler is ok. It is rather new (5 years old?) - Veissman unit if that tells anyone anything. I'll be rather annoyed if I have to keep it burning all summer....

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The Veissman online brochure makes it look like they only sell condensing oil boilers. With second stage stainless HX. If yours is like those, you'll be fine!

john193 said:

@woodgeek

Question for you. My oil boiler was being used for hot water until I got my new heater. It is now off. We don't plan to use the boiler for heat this season (didn't need it this past season) either. Is there any benefit to running the boiler every once in a while? From what I understanding the water heating coil will gum up from a lack of use eventually. To which I understand that I may need to replace it to bring it back to operation. Any other thoughts to consider?

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Only hazard i know of is rust if the humidity is high. My boiler will rust if i dont keep the humidity under 65 .My dehumidifier runs al summer. Edit : Sorry i just noticed that ? was directed at woodgeek,sorry for the hijack but i hope it helps.

I think the tankless coils clog up from minerals in use....I would guess that only using it in the winter would extend its life (its made of copper).

The boiler? Assuming its an old school cast iron boiler, I wouldn't worry if the basement was dry. If not, I prob still wouldn't worry....the darn think is pretty thick. If I did worry, I would either dehumidify, or put a lightbulb under it.

I get a pretty good sheet of rust falling off the interior of the boiler if i dont dehumidify to at least 65% ., My basement hovers around 75% without
the DH running. I figure year after year i might eventually spring a leak.

velvetfoot said:

Your delivery bill is also likely paying for the big rebate you got on that water heater.

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right. no company gives away something for nothing