Stove Chow vs Green Supreme

Tonyray said:

hardwood vrs Softwood...

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Oh boy. You said a naughty words. Popcorn time.......

dlehneman said:

If your signature is correct, your setting are much higher then mine though...I'm running at 2-2-1 after lots of experimenting (depending on the pellet and season I change the first 2 to 1-1 or 2-2). I wonder how much the basement install effects the best way to run it though, since mine is a relatively short exhaust run through 3" (4ft vertical to a 90 degree bend with 2ft horizontal through the wall), OAK about 18-24" off the ground below the exhaust.

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Yeah I think I need to update the settings in my signature. I changed them last year after talking with Englander staff.

My basement install probably does limit some things. Roughly 28 feet of total run is pushing it, although my full setup got the approval from Englander staff. My OAK is only 8 feet maybe. It doesn't go up the chimney like the exhaust. The OAK goes up the basement wall and out the rim joist.

If I learn something new with my setup, I'll give Hamer's a try again. I'm an engineer, tinkering is what we do.

If you like to tinker, you may find that grinding down the rough edges and high spots inside the exhaust blower housing helps a bit (I did this last year). I also found that my burn pot wasn't sitting completely flush due to some lumpy welds, so I solved that by grinding them down. It burned noticeable cleaner after that mod.

I am considering moving my stove to the basement and getting another to go in it's place, so I'm curious, does your exhaust seem to get a lot of buildup? I guess what I'm wondering is if it requires more frequent cleaning due to the long length, although that may be hard to answer if you haven't run the same stove with a shorter exhaust.

dlehneman said:

If you like to tinker, you may find that grinding down the rough edges and high spots inside the exhaust blower housing helps a bit (I did this last year). I also found that my burn pot wasn't sitting completely flush due to some lumpy welds, so I solved that by grinding them down. It burned noticeable cleaner after that mod.

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I have used my dremel to shave off some of the welds spots on my burn pots in the past and any other high points that would keep it from seating correctly. Maybe I'll try taking a look at my exhaust fan's housing and see if there are high spots too. Most likely is as this is the 6th season with the stove.

dlehneman said:

I am considering moving my stove to the basement and getting another to go in it's place, so I'm curious, does your exhaust seem to get a lot of buildup? I guess what I'm wondering is if it requires more frequent cleaning due to the long length, although that may be hard to answer if you haven't run the same stove with a shorter exhaust.

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With the Hamer's gumming up the works, I was cleaning my liner every few weeks it seemed. More frequent if I think it was really bad. The first year I had the liner (this is the 3rd year with it I think), I used all Stove Chow all winter long and I did not clean the liner until after the burn season, not every month/ton that is suggested. I could tell it was dirty enough that I should have cleaned it during the season, but not enough that I noticed a degrade in my burns. I will plan on doing it every month/ton this winter however to keep this thing running as best I can.

Because my EVL was over 15, its recommended to go to 4" liner/exhaust pipe. The liner doesn't get as much of the build up as my 3' horizontal run. Unfortunately that is how far I have to take it to get it to my vertical liner in the chimney flue. If we stick to the cleaning every month/ton, we should be in good shape.

Pellet-King said:

price of oil is dropping $3.18 here today, I'm not falling for or jumping the gun on pellet's

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Where are you getting 3.18 oil? My guy wants 3.64 still!

Pellet-King said:

Brian Glastonbury HD has Chow's $239, I'm not buying let'um sit there and lower the price....ripoff, there capitalizing from last season's glut, If this winter is warm they'll be giving them away

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hrm, i work in e hartford. maybe i'll swing down on the way home from work and scope it out.

getting them home will be costly though. my pickup is good for 1/2 locally in town (dakota), but not 30 highway miles. would need to make 3 trips out of it per ton, and that completely negates the cost.

Briansol, take a look at this for prices for CT:
http://www.cashheatingoil.com/oilpricesinct

In my area, prices range anywhere from $3.25 up to $3.60+ right now. Suspect the places charging $3.60 are the larger ones that are sitting on older inventory that cost a lot more than current market prices.

Also, check this out to drill down a bit for prices in your area:
http://www.newenglandoil.com/conn.htm

Time to shop around.