Everything in short supply ??????????

Plenty of coal down there! Just need to change the 'laundry'.

Howdy hoss,

I'm taking it like buying batteries before the storm. Your lucky to find any and If ya do you can't be as picky on what ya get!! Nice to know its just not pellets, But also firewood. Which would be my first alternate if I couldn't find pellets.

Seems like everyone is filling sooner and over filling so they won't need to do a mid season run and not find any(like last season). Couple a mills I talked to said they are shipping them out as soon as they make them and not a lot of surplus in the yard.

I think this season is going to make the owners who paid a bit extra for a stove that handles higher ash content a bit easier on them!

tjnamtiw said:

Plenty of coal down there! Just need to change the 'laundry'.

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Still high here, But I hear the corn prices are dropping. The joys of owning a multi fueler is priceless sometimes.

Oil is also dropping, May have many forgoing pellets and just filling the oil tank this season.

jtakeman said:

Still high here, But I hear the corn prices are dropping. The joys of owning a multi fueler is priceless sometimes.

Oil is also dropping, May have many forgoing pellets and just filling the oil tank this season.

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There's a guy on nepacrossroads that will deliver 10 tons to NY, CT, and Mass for $250 a ton for 10 ton load. That'll hold you for at least 3 years and it's the equivalent of 17 tons of pellets in heat value. Oil IS coming down but I wonder if we'll ever see $1.50 gas again. They'll stop drilling for it long before it gets that low.

tjnamtiw said:

There's a guy on nepacrossroads that will deliver 10 tons to NY, CT, and Mass for $250 a ton for 10 ton load. That'll hold you for at least 3 years and it's the equivalent of 17 tons of pellets in heat value. Oil IS coming down but I wonder if we'll ever see $1.50 gas again. They'll stop drilling for it long before it gets that low.

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Not sure I care about oil prices anymore I'm geared not to purchase it

The home depot over here sells out fast. I thought I migjt not get any this year! Everyone I talk to thinks a shortage or price jump is coming so some bought 2 year supplies..

Oil prices are coming down but they always do this time of year. Be interesting to see what the price is in February.

Definitely a shortage. Have experienced difficulty in wood procurement since last January. Has not improved much other than I signed a few new contracts in May for present/future wood supply.
The pallet/oil industries are sucking up all they can get at highly inflated prices.
It's ugly now. Gonna be fugly by spring.

JustWood said:

Definitely a shortage. Have experienced difficulty in wood procurement since last January. Has not improved much other than I've signed a few new contracts lat May for present/future wood supply.
The pallet/oil industries are sucking up all they can get at highly inflated prices.
It's ugly now. Gonna be fugly by spring.

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I thought its rather convenient that the oil industries are using wood pellets to suck up their mess's. At the same time adding to an already stressed market due to the recent demand. What I don't get is they are paying more for them than we would. Yet oil dollars are actually dropping.

They have made a few brands like Heathlands scarce, Buying up about all that they produce!

Wood pellets are very absorbent. I keep a couple bags of cheap box store pellets on hand to clean up spills and to line the bunny cage.

Oil is the epidemy of waste would you expect any less from them plus less pellets for you means the more oil you will burn its a win win situation for them

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I thought its rather convenient that the oil industries are using wood pellets to suck up their mess's.

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What I was referring to is that the oil/gas industry is using MASSSSSSSSSIVE amounts of low grade wood in the form of crane mats, that would otherwise be sold as log loads for firewood or pellet feed stock . We sell log loads to a crane mat manufacturer at the rate of $65/ton vs. $35-$40 for firewood. Pallet material we sell cut from low grade firewood logs has increased 20% just in the last few months. Our pallet reconditioning biz has 0 inventory as cores. Cores come directly off the trailer and onto sort and rebuild line and back on delivery trailer . Used to be sorted and inventoried till needed for an order.
Wood is hard to find now and is going to be non existent in a month or so.
The price of firewood is gonna have to increase 30-40% to make my flow reverse and I don't see people paying it.
http://guysfloor.com/2014/06/19/lumber-shortages-the-ripple-effect-of-supply-and-demand-2/
https://www.strucsure.com/News/Home_Building/Articles/Lumber_shortages_raise_prices

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Wood pellets are very absorbent. I keep a couple bags of cheap box store pellets on hand to clean up spills and to line the bunny cage.

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I've often wondered if an industrial user could burn oil saturated pellets. The oil doesn't break the pellet down like water does. It also makes the pellet somewhat resistance to water absorption since it's already saturated with oil. Similar to torrified but not quite. Plus there's the extra BTU value from the oil but you would need the emission controls of an industrial burner. If I had the time to work on it, I'd file for a patent. Just in case.