My truck did not like that

JustWood said:

Please record yourself telling the motor carrier enforcement officer that after you pull off the portable scales. I would love to see the vid . Overload fines usually start at $1/lb.
You can also get several different fines.
Overload on registered GVW, overload on each individual axle, and overload on each individual tire weight rating.
Overload is also an automatic red tag (impound) until corrected.

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So what? The odds of me getting stopped and weighed are tiny.

You're going to say you never drive over the speed limit either? Yeah sure!

Dave

DneprDave said:

So what? The odds of me getting stopped and weighed are tiny.

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One should consider both the odds and the consequences.

I put a half ton in my Ford Flex at a time. It's rated for 1200 pounds load, so it just makes the limit with me in the car. Handling is fine, and braking is still excellent, although I can feel the extra inertia. My tires are up to the task, but I think they are generally the weakest link. I had a ¾ ton Chevy I bought used, and there's no way I would fully load it up with the passenger car tires it had on it. The load plate on the truck claimed it could carry 2200 pounds (camper special), but I was skeptical about that. I carried a yard of topsoil in it once, and it was rather scary how the truck handled with those tires.

I had two tons of pellets delivered this fall, for $50 total. Well worth the money, as I didn't have to make 4 twenty mile round trips.

I have driven overloaded flatbeds, and hated every minute of it.

Just thought I would post this pic for chits and giggles, figured all you pick up guys would like it

To the best of my knowledge, there is not a single 1/4 or 1/2ton regular series truck with a payload in bed of 2000 lbs

no dodge
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/payload14.htm

no chevy (non-HD, the HD exceeds 2k and is the only 1500 on the list to do so)
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/payload12.htm

no ford
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/payload15.htm

no honda
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/payload17.htm

no nissan
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/payload33.htm

no jeep
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/payload23.htm

no toyota
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle/payload42.htm



A few come close, touching 1800-1900 ish.... but many are far away in the 1200 range!
almost double loading with a full ton in there!


In other words, unless you have a 1500HD, if you have any other 1500 truck and you put a full ton in it, you are not only illegal, you're probably hurting/breaking/stressing something.

Enigma869 said:

I'm surprised your pellet dealer would even allow anyone in a half ton truck (or less) to haul a ton of pellets. Neither my local Home Depot, nor Lowes would allow it to happen. Not to mention, I have no interest in getting sued, if an accident were to happen, so I wouldn't even consider it. I live less than one mile from Home Depot, and only take a half a ton at a time, if I have a need for pellets later in the season. Other than that, the $65.00 delivery fee is money VERY well spent!

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Although I have hauled 2 tons[Red Chevy Pickup above] for half mile,
I also have a half ton Toyota truck which u may be able to see in The pix.
I went to home depot last year to pick up 1 Ton of Stove chows..[same distance/different direction]
They would only let me take half the load and had to come back for remaining 25 bags..
I had no Problems with that or any Expectations of hauling 1 ton in my little 1/2 ton 92 Pickup...
knowing which truck can and can't is key here.

Harvey Schneider said:

One should consider both the odds and the consequences.

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Gosh, with an attitude like like, I imagine that you never leave the house! You could get hit by lightning or eaten by a bear, Better odds than getting stopped for an overweight load.

I'm surprised by the number of boy scouts here.

Dave

mik_kane said:

Just thought I would post this pic for chits and giggles, figured all you pick up guys would like it

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A better picture would be after he moved about 2 feet.

I had a customer come in the buy a ton of bagged rice coal in 40# bags. Wrote him up, walked out the front door with him to show him where the warehouse is, I asked where his truck was Pointed to a Jeep Cherokee. I said no, he said yes, I said "I'll just leave a skid of coal out in the lot, do what you want with it, its yours" Of course, I had to peek. Using every inch of he interior, including front passenger seat, he got it all in. I didn't think he would get out of the lot the way it squatted and swayed. I should have taken a photo.

I never did see that guy again.

Fsappo said:

I had a customer come in the buy a ton of bagged rice coal in 40# bags. Wrote him up, walked out the front door with him to show him where the warehouse is, I asked where his truck was Pointed to a Jeep Cherokee. I said no, he said yes, I said "I'll just leave a skid of coal out in the lot, do what you want with it, its yours" Of course, I had to peek. Using every inch of he interior, including front passenger seat, he got it all in. I didn't think he would get out of the lot the way it squatted and swayed. I should have taken a photo.

I never did see that guy again.

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or, you did, and just didn't recognize him cuz he has a different vehicle now lol

DneprDave said:

Gosh, with an attitude like like, I imagine that you never leave the house! You could get hit by lightning or eaten by a bear, Better odds than getting stopped for an overweight load.

I'm surprised by the number of boy scouts here.

Dave

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I don't care about getting stopped, I care about hurting somebody else because I did something dumb.

the bottom line...is it worth the risk? people say" im only a few miles" move that truck 1 foot and hurt someone and more then likely future earnings go south....

DneprDave said:

Gosh, with an attitude like like, I imagine that you never leave the house! You could get hit by lightning or eaten by a bear, Better odds than getting stopped for an overweight load.

I'm surprised by the number of boy scouts here.

Dave

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I have an idea drink a few 6 packs of beer before heading out to remove ALL fear of being eaten by bears

Harvey Schneider said:

I don't care about getting stopped, I care about hurting somebody else because I did something dumb.

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I agree. Driving overloaded to the point it affects the steering, stopping, etc, of a truck is the same as driving after drinking booze in my mind and it requires grown up common sense. Not some entitled preschool mentality like "It be are my truck and I can drove it whar I wanna" I mean common sense like "could I drive an hour after I drank a beer? Sure, how about an hour after a 6 pack? nope" And "my truck is rated for 1000lbs. Can I drive down the road with 1100 pounds? maybe. Can I drive to east jerkweed with 2000lbs and the frame scraping? I damn well better not"

Someone maims anyone I care about while operating anything drunk or in a manner grossly outside of what that "thing" was designed to do would equally as guilty of neglect in my eyes.

iceguy4 said:

the bottom line...is it worth the risk? people say" im only a few miles" move that truck 1 foot and hurt someone and more then likely future earnings go south....

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This would be true whether you were hauling anything or not. If you get in an accident and someone is hurt, their lawyers are coming after you no matter what, even if you did absolutely nothing wrong.

My work is going through this right now actually. Someone ran a red light and hit one of our drivers, and now they're suing my work even though the accident was their fault.

KD0AXS said:

This would be true whether you were hauling anything or not. If you get in an accident and someone is hurt, their lawyers are coming after you no matter what, even if you did absolutely nothing wrong.

My work is going through this right now actually. Someone ran a red light and hit one of our drivers, and now they're suing my work even though the accident was their fault.

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Follow those folks home, ram them in their driveway and sue them back! No, not really.

AS to those with no fear of being stopped, it all depends on your truck squads. I have 2 major highways in my town, and they LOVE to sit just off the exit ramps. One of those highways is a parkway, no Trucks over 7200 pounds. Try driving your dually past the cop.
And YEs, they have stopped some shaddy pickups before. I know one of the guys, was a local officer before going to the state. Some of them are more Aggressive than other.

Chrisnow86 said:

back in the day i would haul round bales (wrapped haylige).. had a chevy 1 ton dump body pulled a hudson tag along.. i would stack 14 bales 12 on the tag and 2 in the dump body at 2,000 each.. thats 28,000 lbs.. would haul 20-30 loads a day..

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In CT, you need a CDL for that.

Case in point. New 1 tons have INSANE GCWR. I know landscapers with F-350-450-550 trucks. Now, put a double axle trailer on, and by state law, you are exceeding licensed weight. So even with a empty trailer, they are stopping people. They are going after pickups and such hauling mini excavators, skid steers, and all similar equipment.

One of the local rental centers , less than HALF MILE off highway, wont let 1/2 ton trucks, SUV's move any of their equipment. Come back with a 3/4 ton or higher. And they don't care what the door stickers say. GUESS WHY

must suck to drive a 1/2 ton. I routinely haul 6-55 gallon drums of diesel in the bed of my 2500 gm. 3/4 cord of stacked green hard maple out of the woods over 10+miles of bush road twice almost every weekend in the fall and I've never felt a bump stop. I hauled a 3200 lb motor to the scrap yard with it without issue. Plows great with 6 barrels of fuel in the back too.

Anybody have a problem with this ????? Towing capacity 10,000 pounds. But, when you put 10-15% on the truck hitch, and add passengers, groceries, your overweight for the truck. Towing is a double edge sword.

I see it near my vacation spot all the time. And I heard they are starting to catch on to this.

Tell you what happened to me hauling a 1/2 ton 15 miles in my Canyon. Could feel the difference in steering but made it. But, and this is a big But, I wore the tires just a hair off & I watched as each day passed & my tires wore unevenly & faster than they should have worn. My bad, I should have brought the tires to be balanced right away. The Canyon isn't rated for 1,000 lbs. In any case, they don't put payload weight rates for nothing . Good luck to you Cowboys