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Take it easy on humidification. Ask yourself where that water ends up. Here is a good read:

http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/qa-spotlight/why-sheathing-moldy

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Recent research is starting to suggest that the perception that we need to have 50% humidity levels during the winter may be false. Likely, you'll be fine if you are running in the 30-40% range. As others have mentioned, if you're getting below 30%, address the air leaks first. Humidifiers have filters, which can stay consistenly damp, leading to unwanted bacteria which is being thrown out into your home.
 
I have found that the moisture in the air prevents colds. I have read this also.
What happens is your sinus's or your throat if they get dried out and irritated they become more susceptible
to invading bacteria and cold virus. My parents who have electric base board heat which is terrible for drying out the air
in your house, they had sinus issues for years I told them and told them to get a humidifier. When they finally did,
Now they hardly ever have sinus issues and they talk how much better it is with the humidifier, but they never mention that I told them to get one.:p

Also measuring humidity in your home is hard to do and most cheap meters are very inaccurate so get a good one.
 
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Also remember that interior humidity levels should be relevant to outdoor temperature to avoid to much condensation on windows. The colder it gets the lower the humidity in the house should be. I have a humidifier on my HVAC system that runs when needed, when I turn on the circulation fan a couple times a day. There is a chart next to the dial for a recommended setting dependent on outside temps.

Degrees = % Humidity
+ 20 = 40-55
20 = 35-40
10 = 30-35
0 = 25-30
-10 = 20-25
-20 = 15-20

I have found it to be pretty helpful to keep the house comfortable without a ton of moisture forming on the windows.
 
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I got a model with 2-2 gallon tanks. I turn it on low at about 10pm. Dry air only affects us when sleeping. I get about 3-5 days before refilling. It rolls around.
 
I have tried several over the years this one is best one I have owned.

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I ended up buying the console version of this one, thanks! Its a 5 gal, I tended a 3 gal tabletop version for a few years, toting both 1.5 gal jugs to the sink everyday became a task. Thanks for your opinion.
 
I ended up buying the console version of this one, thanks! Its a 5 gal, I tended a 3 gal tabletop version for a few years, toting both 1.5 gal jugs to the sink everyday became a task. Thanks for your opinion.

This unit has a 3.5 gallon tank, there is a little door in front your pour water in it with a bucket. My bucket is one that has that little spout on the edge that helps with the pouring.

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I think being able to monitor the humidity levels is very helpful when using a humidifier. I bought this monitor recently.
http://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-00325-Comfort-Monitor-Black/dp/B004K8RF10/ref=sr_1_2?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1415063066&sr=1-2&keywords=AcuRite Humidity Monitor
I was surprised how quickly the humidity levels dropped when it got down to 25F. Doesn't take long to figure out what levels feel right too.
Thank you. I had one delivered today, its adjusting as I type :) Seems the 15 gallons of water the new humidifier put out has my humidity up to almost 25%.
 
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Thank you. I had one delivered today, its adjusting as I type :) Seems the 15 gallons of water the new humidifier put out has my humidity up to almost 25%.
You can test the accuracy of your device by putting it in a sealed ziploc bag overnight along with a bottle cap full of salt with a few drops of water added to it. You want the salt to be slightly slushy, but not dissolved. You should get a final reading of 75%. Mine was 2% off, which I can live with.
 
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You can test the accuracy of your device by putting it in a sealed ziploc bag overnight along with a bottle cap full of salt with a few drops of water added to it. You want the salt to be slightly slushy, but not dissolved. You should get a final reading of 75%. Mine was 2% off, which I can live with.

I failed to get the humidity above 20% here even with several gallons per day in new humidifier. If I run the dryer inside alot of the day I can get up to 24%, but that is gone the next morning and back down to 16%. My salt resembles wet sand.

Problem is, my spring hyrometer is rarely above 20% (think 20 is the lowest reading poss) and I think the 16% on my new acurite is the lowest reading possible, so its probably lower :(

My second humidifier arrived yesterday, its running now.

Thanks for the tip! I'll report the results, though I doubt a digital and a spring hygrometer are both mistaken. What I can say is that I have sinus trouble since moving here last year, hoping 2 large console humidifiers will help!

In a matter of minutes the acurite is reading inside the salt baggie is 54%, I have never seen it higher than 24%!!!!

Thanks!
 
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I failed to get the humidity above 20% here even with several gallons per day in new humidifier. If I run the dryer inside alot of the day I can get up to 24%, but that is gone the next morning and back down to 16%. My salt resembles wet sand.

Problem is, my spring hyrometer is rarely above 20% (think 20 is the lowest reading poss) and I think the 16% on my new acurite is the lowest reading possible, so its probably lower :(

My second humidifier arrived yesterday, its running now.

Thanks for the tip! I'll report the results, though I doubt a digital and a spring hygrometer are both mistaken. What I can say is that I have sinus trouble since moving here last year, hoping 2 large console humidifiers will help!

In a matter of minutes the acurite is reading 54%, I have never seen it higher than 24%!!!!

Thanks!
Where do you keep your device which tells you the humidity? I tried keeping the humidifier in the stove room and my humidity wouldn't increase at all. Put it in the spare bedroom and it rose about 8% in the stove room. Got up this morning and our bedroom was 42%, stove room was 30%. I've come to the conclusion that the stove room isn't a good place to get a good reading, in my situation anyway.
 
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Where do you keep your device which tells you the humidity? I tried keeping the humidifier in the stove room and my humidity wouldn't increase at all. Put it in the spare bedroom and it rose about 8% in the stove room. Got up this morning and our bedroom was 42%, stove room was 30%. I've come to the conclusion that the stove room isn't a good place to get a good reading, in my situation anyway.

My room with pellet stove is ~20' x 30', device is about 25' away from pellet stove. However we have a wood stove in the next part of the house. The 20x30 room is where I am at all day and sometimes I sleep there too (lol). Pellet stove is on the far east end of the room, device tested on both far west ends, so and no corners.

If I can get the room I occupy most the day humidified, (I think the floors, walls, etc are still absorbing), my next project will be the bedroom. (still have a 1.5 gal ultrasonic in reserve).

@bsruther have you had sinus trouble before? I spent decades in CO with dry air, but I always had either gas/propane furnace running along with the wood stove. Last year moved to WY, only the pellet and wood stove (previously 2 smoke dragons).

Thanks!
 
I always had trouble with dry sinuses, but this morning I woke up at 5AM with a clogged up nose which was what prompted me to look at the humidity thingy. On the bright side, I noticed the stove room was 79 when I couldn't get back to sleep.
I think that due to the different layouts of houses and air flows, experimenting is the only way to get desired results. I don't think I have my humidifier in the best location, but I don't have any more options. Doesn't help that the wife left the humidifier on medium last night when the temp only got down to 29. Not her fault though since I'm the weather monitorer and should have told her.
 
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Tom, a tight house doesn't "create" an issue. The design of such a house simply must pay attention to existing moisture issues that weren't a problem 70-100 years ago. Tight houses don't need humidification the way an older, leaky house does. A newer, very tight house typically needs mechanical ventilation to limit the accumulation of interior humidity produced by human activity. It's like proper installation and flashing of windows in new houses, perhaps most of which still aren't installed correctly. Really old houses never had a problem with excess humidity inside and with windows that leaked a little rain into the wall cavity, because the air leakage was so high that the walls dried out in short order. In those houses, the issue of moisture wasn't a problem for the house, but it was for the occupants because the inside air was far too dry for human comfort. Addressing the lack of moisture with humidification wasn't a problem then, but it is, potentially, with houses built within the last 50 years.

You still hear some people say that a house should be tight (to keep the heating bill down), but not too tight - "The house has to breathe." That is incorrect. The occupants have to breathe (need fresh air), and the house has to avoid moisture accumulation problems. Trying to "make the house tight, but not too tight" as a design strategy simply does not work. There is no way to design in the right amount of "leakage" that works under any particular set of conditions. Air leakage is driven by wind pressure and air density difference (air at zero F is about 15% heavier than air at 70 F). The house leaks most when it's bitter cold and windy outside (yeah, like that's news to anyone in a heating climate), and not at all when it's mild and windless outside. Worse, there is no way to control "leakage." The only right thing to do is to make a new house as tight as possible and provide mechanical ventilation. With an older house, dry air can be addressed by really tightening up the house. Making an older house so tight that mechanical ventilation would be required to keep interior humidity down would be prohibitively expensive, because of all the leaking framing joints that can't be accessed easily.

On this forum, there occasionally are posts by members in the process of designing or building a new house in a heating climate. Many seem to resist suggestions to make the darn thing exceedingly well insulated and tight, opting instead to build "conventional" and throw a lot of cheap heat into it in the form of a huge woodstove. I've sometimes posted advice to go superinsulated, but I suspect most of it falls on deaf ears. Perhaps I should get off the soapbox.

I agree with your explanation. I just finished having a new house built. Moved in about two months ago. Because of the wind here I requested that it be very air tight. Spray foamed all the exterior walls and the latest in windows. I have a humidity gauge and the lowest I have seen so far is 30% and normaly I see around 40% humidity. Even my cigar humidor does not go super dry when I forget to put water in it.
 
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I always had trouble with dry sinuses, but this morning I woke up at 5AM with a clogged up nose which was what prompted me to look at the humidity thingy. On the bright side, I noticed the stove room was 79 when I couldn't get back to sleep.
I think that due to the different layouts of houses and air flows, experimenting is the only way to get desired results. I don't think I have my humidifier in the best location, but I don't have any more options. Doesn't help that the wife left the humidifier on medium last night when the temp only got down to 29. Not her fault though since I'm the weather monitorer and should have told her.

Ahaha, I would love 79* ! but nice you took the blame for your lovely wife. My poor husband puts up with very high temps for me :) Now I just need to get the humidity corrected, I have no doubt it will help his nose too.
 
I agree with your explanation. I just finished having a new house built. Moved in about two months ago. Because of the wind here I requested that it be very air tight. Spray foamed all the exterior walls and the latest in windows. I have a humidity gauge and the lowest I have seen so far is 30% and normaly I see around 40% humidity. Even my cigar humidor does not go super dry when I forget to put water in it.
Do you require a humidifier? My very old home is 1/2 gutted and remodeled. We (he) foamed the the exterior seams from between the studs, then we insulated and drywalled. Cool to hear from someone in SE WY! Tell me more.
 
Do you require a humidifier? My very old home is 1/2 gutted and remodeled. We (he) foamed the the exterior seams from between the studs, then we insulated and drywalled. Cool to hear from someone in SE WY!

I just recently moved from Cheyenne to about 30 miles east near the small town of Carpenter. I had 40 acres there and built a house with a walk out basement. I am enjoying the freedom of all the space and no close neighbors.

I do have a humidifier but I do not run it all the time. My wife has problems with dry eyes and if it gets dry enough I will run the humidifier. Good to see a fellow Wyoming wood burner here.
 
1500 sq. ft., and I just got this. Rated for 3000. By going this big, I have a unit that can more than handle any load the house may present. Set at 35%, it runs intermittently, and can empty its 5.5 gallon reservoir I less than a day, when warranted. I've burned through several of the smaller units, in the last five years, and was tired of buying a new $100 unit every year. Cost for this unit was $169, at Menards. It actually does look enough like furniture to blend in, instead of standing out as a piece of equipment, too.

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Just be careful about over humidifying the joint. Three years ago I ran into a bad headache issue and after discovering the place was at 20% humidity I tried a humidifier and it helped. Went overboard and turned the place into a rain forest. Fixed the headaches but in the Spring I discovered a ton of mold on the roof decking. Place needed a new roof so I had them replace the decking for grand extra instead of paying some shyster to rip me off for four grand for remediation. And yes, did a lot of sealing.

Just saying, don't get carried away with humidity. 30% to 40% or so will be fine.
 
Just be careful about over humidifying the joint. Three years ago I ran into a bad headache issue and after discovering the place was at 20% humidity I tried a humidifier and it helped. Went overboard and turned the place into a rain forest. Fixed the headaches but in the Spring I discovered a ton of mold on the roof decking. Place needed a new roof so I had them replace the decking for grand extra instead of paying some shyster to rip me off for four grand for remediation. And yes, did a lot of sealing.

Just saying, don't get carried away with humidity. 30% to 40% or so will be fine.
I never go above 35%, either. That's the point where the cats' fur stops crackling, when we pet them.
 
I have a humidifier on my central HVAC system. At times I have used the blower on the heat pump to help circulate the stove room air through the home and it worked well. Today I wired the central humidifier to run with the fan and not with the heat pump running. Google idea?
 
I have a humidifier on my central HVAC system. At times I have used the blower on the heat pump to help circulate the stove room air through the home and it worked well. Today I wired the central humidifier to run with the fan and not with the heat pump running. Google idea?

Thats exactly how mine is set up. I run it on fan only, for a bit in the morning before heading to work. Then when I get home I let it run until the humidifier units turns itself off and then turn the fan off.
 
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