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Hey Doug.

It just started snowing but it has been blowing for about 12 hours. It's gonna be a mess tomorrow....a big mess to clean up. The worse part is that I ordered my son's snowsuit and it hasn't arrived yet :eek:
Today
Snow at times heavy. Amount 15 to 25 cm. Wind becoming northeast 20 km/h gusting to 40 this morning then increasing to 40 gusting to 70 except gusting to 90 near the coast this afternoon. Temperature steady near plus 1.

Tonight
Snow mixed with ice pellets changing to rain after midnight. Snow and ice pellet amount 10 to 15 cm. Wind northeast 60 km/h gusting to 100 becoming northwest 40 gusting to 70 near midnight. Temperature steady near zero.

Yup, our electricity rates are great. And 96% of the electricity generated by Hydro Quebec is via hydroelectric dams.

I do not know how some of you can pay power bills...at $0.20 I'd be hard pressed to ever turn on a light!

ANdrew
 
Swedishchef said:
Hey Doug.

It just started snowing but it has been blowing for about 12 hours. It's gonna be a mess tomorrow....a big mess to clean up. The worse part is that I ordered my son's snowsuit and it hasn't arrived yet :eek:
Today
Snow at times heavy. Amount 15 to 25 cm. Wind becoming northeast 20 km/h gusting to 40 this morning then increasing to 40 gusting to 70 except gusting to 90 near the coast this afternoon. Temperature steady near plus 1.

Tonight
Snow mixed with ice pellets changing to rain after midnight. Snow and ice pellet amount 10 to 15 cm. Wind northeast 60 km/h gusting to 100 becoming northwest 40 gusting to 70 near midnight. Temperature steady near zero.

Yup, our electricity rates are great. And 96% of the electricity generated by Hydro Quebec is via hydroelectric dams.

I do not know how some of you can pay power bills...at $0.20 I'd be hard pressed to ever turn on a light!

ANdrew
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even the wife turned off her led light and replaced it with a jar candle.

got a little slush but burning way too much for Nov 2.

have a great Sunday, go pats
 
Send some snow up to us...we could use some good ground cover. We have almost nothing... And now it is in the single digits at night...
 
7-10" here with about 3 on the ground now. Ground is not at all frozen yet, just going to make a mess.

On topic: Our rate here in N. Maine is up to 0.16 now it was 0.115 for a couple of years down from 0.17 in years past.

People are putting mini-splits faster than they can ship them up here, I've personally installed over 30 this year. Going to be a big surprise when the electric rates climb. Back in 2000 most would have laughed at someone that said gasoline would be near $4/gal in 10 years............ Burn wood! It grows on trees!

TS
 
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Swedishchef said:
I am loving the electricity rates in Quebec. I pay $90/month. My entire house is wired for electric heating. My stove is located in the basement so my upstairs is primarily heated with electricity.

Andrew
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Geez Andrew! How can you keep your bill at $90 per month. It took me everything I had to lower it to $169!!! I guess you don`t have air conditioning.
At what temp do you keep the house in the winter?
 
Be glad you don't live in CT. I believe we have the 2nd or 3rd highest rates behind Hawaii and Alaska.

$50 just in delivery charges for around 500 kwhs. Thats not even the cost of the actual power. CT light and power has submitted to the state a proposal to double these charges.

All told we pay around .25-.28 a KWH total cost.

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Holy smoke and mirrors Batman........

TS
 
Brian26 said:
Be glad you don't live in CT. I believe we have the 2nd or 3rd highest rates behind Hawaii and Alaska.
$50 just in delivery charges for around 500 kwhs. Thats not even the cost of the actual power. CT light and power has submitted to the state a proposal to double these charges.
All told we pay around .25-.28 a KWH total cost.
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O M G. That is unreal!!! I'd be using candles for light, body heat for warmth and gin to pass the days.

A
 
Laurent Cyr said:
Geez Andrew! How can you keep your bill at $90 per month. It took me everything I had to lower it to $169!!! I guess you don`t have air conditioning.
At what temp do you keep the house in the winter?
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Ooops I lied: last winter was colder and my monthly is $110. It used to be $90.

I am guessing the fact that I have a new air tight house, relatively small (1275 sq ft) and my basement is R22 (R10 spray foam + R12 Roxul and spray foamed rimjoists) from top to bottom have a lot to do with it. I do burn 2.5-3 cords of wood a year. My power bill killer is: 1- hot water tank (we have 2 kids so there's a total of 2-3 showers/baths daily), 2- Christmas lights: sounds silly but I have about 6000 watts of lights for 2-3 weeks a year and I leave them on 14-18 hours a day (no I don't like LED lights, I don't find the lighting is the same) and 3- the dryer: we do 6-7 loads of laundry a week.

Andrew
 
i have geothermal and my electric rate is
0.07190 average bill is 200 a month for 2400 sf house.
 
Swedishchef said:
You distribution charges must be quite high. 2400 sq ft is a big house.

What's the ROI (return on investment) like with the geothermal?

Andrew
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3-4 years in my case.
 
My kWh at cabin is $0.07756 with Puget Sound Energy

The following credits are in effect:

Energy Exchange Credit
Power Cost Adjustment
Merger Credit
Federal Wind Power Credit
Renewable Energy Credit
 
I dont know about the Swede but its been down in the teens up here the past few nights and the lake has a thin layer of ice on it now, But I was running daily fires 6 weeks ago so no surprice there i guess! I too am starting to like my electric bills much more so the days after nearing what some on here pay... My 12 month toat is around $550 for some time now but i burn another $500 in LP on top of that and a three cord of scrounge wood in a house thats 3200 square and has a twenty foot cathedral to boot.
 
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Treacherous said:
What do you pay for electric? We have a lot of hydroelectric dams in WA state as well.
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First 30 kWh per day: $0,0557
Remaining consumption: $0,0826

And that is before tax and delivery fee. If you include those charges, my last bill was $0.0805/kWh.

The billing method is kinda odd though: they give the bill every 2 months (and not every month).

Where I live is THE MECCA of wind turbine technology. We actually have a windmill blade plant here (LM Glassfiber). THey make blades up to 52 meters long. Lots of wind parks but there's lots of controversy over windmill farms: the farms cost on average 11-12 cents/kWh to build (the infrastructure required, building of the park, roads, connect to grid, etc). But our utility company sells that electricity to the US for $0,08-$0.09/kWh. SO it creates jobs but is not self sustaining (independantly).

SO when the wind blows, they turn down the flow of all our hydro dams. :)

Andrew
 
Swedishchef said:
First 30 kWh per day: $0,0557
Remaining consumption: $0,0826

And that is before tax and delivery fee. If you include those charges, my last bill was $0.0805/kWh.

The billing method is kinda odd though: they give the bill every 2 months (and not every month).

Where I live is THE MECCA of wind turbine technology. We actually have a windmill blade plant here (LM Glassfiber). THey make blades up to 52 meters long. Lots of wind parks but there's lots of controversy over windmill farms: the farms cost on average 11-12 cents/kWh to build (the infrastructure required, building of the park, roads, connect to grid, etc). But our utility company sells that electricity to the US for $0,08-$0.09/kWh. SO it creates jobs but is not self sustaining (independantly).

SO when the wind blows, they turn down the flow of all our hydro dams. :)

Andrew
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It sounds like equivalent of your area here in the states where I am.

AFAIK rate is static at rate I originally posted. There is also talk of creating the largest photovoltaic (PV) solar park in the U.S about 3 miles as the crow flies from cabin. Not sure if that will come to fruition though.
 
Their billing at higher rate for higher use encourages conservation and helps them by not having to build a pricey base load station. I only use 270 KWh a month on average so i'd be liking those low rates no doubt!
 
Swedishchef said:
First 30 kWh per day: $0,0557
Remaining consumption: $0,0826

And that is before tax and delivery fee. If you include those charges, my last bill was $0.0805/kWh.

The billing method is kinda odd though: they give the bill every 2 months (and not every month).

Where I live is THE MECCA of wind turbine technology. We actually have a windmill blade plant here (LM Glassfiber). THey make blades up to 52 meters long. Lots of wind parks but there's lots of controversy over windmill farms: the farms cost on average 11-12 cents/kWh to build (the infrastructure required, building of the park, roads, connect to grid, etc). But our utility company sells that electricity to the US for $0,08-$0.09/kWh. SO it creates jobs but is not self sustaining (independantly).

SO when the wind blows, they turn down the flow of all our hydro dams. :)

Andrew
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God do I hate seeing taxes on something you have got to have???????? love it that even in Mass. they do not tax firewood, electric, gas and oil.
 
Doug MacIVER said:
God do I hate seeing taxes on something you have got to have???????? love it that even in Mass. they do not tax firewood, electric, gas and oil.
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Ha ha. Agreed. And the way taxes are calculated, in Quebec, they add the Goods and Services tax (Federal), take that total and THEN add the provincial sales tax. Taxing the tax. Yahooo
 
Brian26 said:
$50 just in delivery charges for around 500 kwhs. Thats not even the cost of the actual power.
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Hi Brian26 - I'm not disputing that CT has some ridiculous electricity prices (with really piss poor utility service, to boot)....but take a look at your bill again. It looks like you pay about 16.75 cents/kWh (variable rate) with a fixed rate charge of $16/month regardless of quantity used. I wouldn't call that 25 to 28 cents/kWh since the marginal rate you will pay for the 490th kWh that you use is 16.75 cents.
 
I think I am going to look into investing 25k into solar. My neighbor has them and the way our house is situated it gets almost direct sun. Brand new roof, southern exposure full sun almost all day.

Dboon- 16.75 kwh I wish. I took my total kwh divided by my monthly bill. Soon we will be paying even higher. Its not the cost for KWH. Its the delivery charges.

Looks like a massive increase is coming... They are raising both the actual electrical cost and delivery charges.

http://www.hartfordbusiness.com/article/20141107/NEWS01/141109942

Current Rate: $.0996
PROPOSED Rate: $.1245


Customer service charge going from $16.00 to $25.50 Increase of 59%

Distribution charge per KWH $0.02757 to $0.03183 Increase of 15% (You pay this for every Kilowatt you use.)

Reconnect at Meter same day $35 to $100.96 Increase of 188%

Reconnect at pole residential $60.00 to $183.61 Increase of 206%

I ran some numbers and if these go through. My bill will be 31% higher
 
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