Amish Gravity Feed Pellet Stove? Buyer Beware

Be careful. Be VERY careful! That second ebay offering with the Bay Window was impossible for me to even read! Everyone uses the Amish as a gimmick to sell stuff. Truth be know, they burn coal! They SURE don't use those Amish ELECTRIC heaters that surface every fall on the info-mercials. My guess these are coming straight from China and imported by some 'There's a sucker born every minute' shyster.

http://breckwell.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=874

looks like this one.

pell it said:

http://breckwell.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=874

looks like this one.

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Interesting. Must be a typo in the specs it says up to 35 lb hopper yet right above it in description says 80 lb hopper.
6" flue collar, again interesting.

I wonder how long it can burn before manually cranking the handle or however you load it. If I had a location without power a nice ol' radiant wood stove seems to already fit the bill.

In my searching for stoves I saw many questionable adds on Ebay. Wouldn't buy one from there to begin with but that's just me.

I have seen another one I am questioning that is supposedly made in China and marketed as an HP22 some Hongsheng something or other. I have seen it in several places advertised at $1,199.00 and free shipping. Google HP22 Hongsheng and look at those sketchy sites.

It is all over Craigslist as a US "ComfortBilt HP22" coming out of some place in North Carolina. At first they were from Germany. Really?

Supposedly "Bronxboy" bought one here. I PM'ed him asking about it and after the initial "it's awesome" schpeel....... No response. Sent several more PM's asking how it was and for some pics.............No response after several more PM's Dude disappeared. He was the guy in NYC that started a thread about wanting a pellet stove. Sid he was 66 and drove a Prius and on his eulogy wanted some crap about being "green." He had the 1,100 SQ FT Row House with a yard and garage to store pellets in. OK, so you have a garage and a yard. BS!

I think this is also on Amazon. Just not sure about the whole deal................. Very questionable. There is some guy Glenn at SMG Hearth? that answers a mobile phone number and has had some bs answers like "Using this stove you will only burn $2 to $3 per day in pellets." I asked, are they in stock? "I have some coming in two days" or "they are stuck on a container ship in Virginia Beach and customs has them held up."

Yea, OK! I call BULLCHIT! It smells a little weird to me. See what you pellet vets think about this one.

But wouldn't a reliable electric free pellet stove be a wonderful thing? It can't be as unattainable as cold fusion or perpetual motion, can it?

I always imagine the motors being powered by electricity generated by the stoves heat. Ten years from now maybe we will all be using such an invention!

I wouldn't say RUN away fast, just not enough info on what they are producing. I live damn near to Lancaster county in PA., this is 99.9% Amish county. They produce everything there self & sell, that's there money income, just like you go to work. What I am saying, they produce good quality made items and they are stepping into this kind of stuff, because demand is high, make money. The quality in there wood working, is second to none, they don't make junk like you get from Walmart, it is 1st grade quality. Metal working items, welding and bending to produce something, there quality is 2nd to none. They all ready make wood stoves, there not really a complex item to make or produce. Now they are maybe getting into pellets stoves, which is not a bad thing because demand is high for these items and they do, do, a excellent job on the quality of everything they make. Not cutting these folks up in anyway, they a hard working people, but that's there income, living money. Heck, they still drive horse & buggy's, they still go to 1 room school houses, not in public schools. This doesn't make them bad people or produce bad items that you have to run, you just don't hear of what they can produce because they don't spend lots of money to advertise. Advertising is a expensive thing to do, they do very little of that to save money, but normally what they produce, is normally better than anything you find in a big businesses. I would LOVE to try a Amish made stove. They make a good looking wood stove. they put lots of quality & detail into everything they do. Everything new that comes out, there are bugs you have to work out, but learning and getting those bugs worked out of your product, makes high quality items, and that is something they will do over time as more of these items sell. Next they will get into wood pellets to, if not already doing it. They will have bugs to work out, but over time, those items will be 2nd to none then what you buy at big businesses.

Lake Girl said:

Looked at the ad again - Manufacturer: Amish Made America. Can't find them...

Don't back away slowly ... RUN

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Did you see the post by 'pell it'? Its pretty obvious its a Breckwell stove. They even used the exact same image files off Breckwell's website.

bags said:

In my searching for stoves I saw many questionable adds on Ebay. Wouldn't buy one from there to begin with but that's just me.

I have seen another one I am questioning that is supposedly made in China and marketed as an HP22 some Hongsheng something or other. I have seen it in several places advertised at $1,199.00 and free shipping. Google HP22 Hongsheng and look at those sketchy sites.

It is all over Craigslist as a US "ComfortBilt HP22" coming out of some place in North Carolina. At first they were from Germany. Really?

Supposedly "Bronxboy" bought one here. I PM'ed him asking about it and after the initial "it's awesome" schpeel....... No response. Sent several more PM's asking how it was and for some pics.............No response after several more PM's Dude disappeared. He was the guy in NYC that started a thread about wanting a pellet stove. Sid he was 66 and drove a Prius and on his eulogy wanted some crap about being "green." He had the 1,100 SQ FT Row House with a yard and garage to store pellets in. OK, so you have a garage and a yard. BS!

I think this is also on Amazon. Just not sure about the whole deal................. Very questionable. There is some guy Glenn at SMG Hearth? that answers a mobile phone number and has had some bs answers like "Using this stove you will only burn $2 to $3 per day in pellets." I asked, are they in stock? "I have some coming in two days" or "they are stuck on a container ship in Virginia Beach and customs has them held up."

Yea, OK! I call BULLCHIT! It smells a little weird to me. See what you pellet vets think about this one.

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It isn't the "vets" that we need to be concerned about...it's the "noobs" thay are going to get taken for a ride!

Lake Girl said:

But this particular item may/may not be Amish made ...

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Absolutely not Amish made. Unless, perhaps, there are one or two Amish assembling a couple of the trim pieces or perhaps the pallet it ships on and they can then call it Amish made.

the local amish here are making and selling pellets. i havent gotten any yet but ive seen the pallets of them. they're in an clear plastic bag, no label or nuttin. i though it was rabbit food but then i thought..hmm...4 tons of rabbit food...thats a hell of alot of bunnies...then it hit me and i asked. haha. then i walked into the saw shop and seen one running. the guy had it rigged up on a battery and converter alogn with a solar charger. interesting eh!? lol

Gravity feed, isn't that what gets pellets into the auger from the hopper?

Lake Girl said:

But how do you get the auger to turn without power? Hand crank but then your babysitting ...



What kind of pressure are they using to get them through the die? If they aren't using high enough pressure, you have bedding pellets for those bunnies, horses

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Can't be any worse than these pellets.....only 3.38% ash
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Cheap-wood-pellet-fuel-for-sale_60034509933.html?s=p

Our local Amish are willing to use gas and diesel engines and power various shop tools and air tools.

Lake Girl said:

What kind of pressure are they using to get them through the die? If they aren't using high enough pressure, you have bedding pellets for those bunnies, horses

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Bioburner said:

Our local Amish are willing to use gas and diesel engines and power various shop tools and air tools.

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Just like this person said, theyve apparently got the mills to make them now. Diesel power plants to run their sawmills and such id imagine they just hook up another belt and run the other equipment they need. ours are menanites? just cant have rubber tires on stuff and some other odd rules. i never researched the amish details to know the difference. all i know is they do good work and sell good stuff cheap. hence why i buy saw stuff from them. haha. hell get any type of 20" chain for my saw for 11 bucks. a 12 pack of files for 4 bucks. and they dont buy junk stuff either. i picked up a whole pile of felling wedges last year as gifts for friends, even for women! lol (work nicely for door stops and nice to have in your car incase someone locks their keys inside..grab your wedge and jam it between door and roof..haha)

i do intend on getting a few bags to try. like a moron i didnt get a price on tons tho. i have a one track mind sometimes. i get distracted when im near powertools and other fun stuff. lol i appologize to everyone.. my bad. i will report back on prices tho.

Lake Girl said:

But how do you get the auger to turn without power? Hand crank but then your babysitting ...



What kind of pressure are they using to get them through the die? If they aren't using high enough pressure, you have bedding pellets for those bunnies, horses

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No, it says you pull a handle and it drops 10 # of pellets at ONE TIME! And it says you can pull the handle two or three times to drop up to 30# so it burns over nite. It sounds like they are using the pellets as a form of regular wood. It's almost like hand feeding a coal fire. There's nothing like that being offered by any other manufacturer that I know of.

Well around here the compressed bricks are more expensive per pound than pellets. But at least with a woodstove you'd have the flexibility of either bricks or cordwood. I have no idea why an amish would prefer pellets. The few Amish I've been in here use coal. I know some that make pellets too, but they do that for profit not to use themselves.

Lake Girl said:

But how do you get the auger to turn without power? Hand crank but then your babysitting ...


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You let gravity do the job. Just like the WiseWay and many coal stoves, no auger so no need for electricity or a motor. Lots of parts made all over the place in almost every stove.