2014-2015 Blaze King Performance thread (Everything BK)

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It looks like my 1.5 run today might have actually been a 1?? Hopefully

It's the opposite of that. You were actually running at 2 when you though you were at 1.5. The actual stat position is 0.5 higher than what you think.

Points to weak draft.
 
I'm thinking if the by-pass is not sealed good that it slows the draft at the cat. That and because some of the smoke is now going straight up the flue it's less food for the cat which could lead to a stall that might not have happened if the seal was better.
 
It's the opposite of that. You were actually running at 2 when you though you were at 1.5. The actual stat position is 0.5 higher than what you think.

Points to weak draft.
Yep. I didn't think about that to hard. I wonder if I should add 3 feet of pipe and see what happens. Or I guess I could insulate my top few feet of flex liner with Roxul? Is there a connection that can be used to go from flex liner to straight pipe? This would go out the top of my chimney. I would imagine double wall and not single? The stove is burning okay, but I'd imagine if I fix my draft it will be more efficient and that is really what I'm looking for.
 
i was teaching my fiance how to use the BK princess insert last night and she cranked the t-stat past max dot. i must have turned white. in her defense, i wouldnt have expected it to turn above the max. could anything be screwed up now? havent noticed anything yet, but im still new to the stove.
 
Yep. I didn't think about that to hard. I wonder if I should add 3 feet of pipe and see what happens. Or I guess I could insulate my top few feet of flex liner with Roxul? Is there a connection that can be used to go from flex liner to straight pipe? This would go out the top of my chimney. I would imagine double wall and not single? The stove is burning okay, but I'd imagine if I fix my draft it will be more efficient and that is really what I'm looking for.

For proof of concept you can pick up any old single wall chunk of snap lok pipe that fits in place of the cap. Even HVAC ducting. The permanent extension, if you decide to install one, should be much more expensive. Trying to stuff insulation in next to existing liner would be significantly less helpful. The Ashfords seem to be more draft sensitive.
 
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Stat on "1" 5hrs into burn!
 
Good deal!
On 1 the flapper will be closed.
 
Nice one Diesel.

My Cat don't glow like that on '1' no more.

;hm

Tell us more about the burn.
 

thats insane. i still think there is something wrong with my ashford. now i am beginning to think its my bypass damper or combustor. i have to run my stove at almost 3 to get the combuster temp that high. it just doesnt get that hot. i think i have more smoke than i should coming out of the chimney as well. BKVP gave me a thermostat to put in, but i held off. the more i use it, the more i am sure its not the stat. flapper closes at 1 on a cold stove. the combustor looks pretty clean as well. as i said earlier, it seemed as if it had slid out some, so i pushed it back in.

can you check the bypass without disconnecting? i would think so? my ashford is super heavy and is hard to disconnect/reconnect.

BTW, its not the wood. 2 yr covered ash at 15-18%.

my typical burn is near 2 and i get about 8-9 hours in the active zone.
 
thats insane. i still think there is something wrong with my ashford. now i am beginning to think its my bypass damper or combustor. i have to run my stove at almost 3 to get the combuster temp that high. it just doesnt get that hot. i think i have more smoke than i should coming out of the chimney as well. BKVP gave me a thermostat to put in, but i held off. the more i use it, the more i am sure its not the stat. flapper closes at 1 on a cold stove. the combustor looks pretty clean as well. as i said earlier, it seemed as if it had slid out some, so i pushed it back in.

can you check the bypass without disconnecting? i would think so? my ashford is super heavy and is hard to disconnect/reconnect.

BTW, its not the wood. 2 yr covered ash at 15-18%.

my typical burn is near 2 and i get about 8-9 hours in the active zone.
That probably is your problem,shot hot gasket around the cat

Mine cat glows on 1 all the time...well at least till the gas's run out. I hardly ever take it off 1..has to pretty cold or I'm just burning down coals on 3..
 
thats insane. i still think there is something wrong with my ashford. now i am beginning to think its my bypass damper or combustor. i have to run my stove at almost 3 to get the combuster temp that high. it just doesnt get that hot. i think i have more smoke than i should coming out of the chimney as well. BKVP gave me a thermostat to put in, but i held off. the more i use it, the more i am sure its not the stat. flapper closes at 1 on a cold stove. the combustor looks pretty clean as well. as i said earlier, it seemed as if it had slid out some, so i pushed it back in.

can you check the bypass without disconnecting? i would think so? my ashford is super heavy and is hard to disconnect/reconnect.

BTW, its not the wood. 2 yr covered ash at 15-18%.

my typical burn is near 2 and i get about 8-9 hours in the active zone.
This sounds a lot like my issues. I get smoke (white). For probably an hour or two and then its clear. My cat won't run near that hot when I'm at 2. I will get an active can for 9-12 hours like you but its its not even up at 12 o'clock. I'm Adding 3-4 feet of pipe today. Will see what happens. My stove is the sirocco 30.
 
This sounds a lot like my issues. I get smoke (white). For probably an hour or two and then its clear. My cat won't run near that hot when I'm at 2. I will get an active can for 9-12 hours like you but its its not even up at 12 o'clock. I'm Adding 3-4 feet of pipe today. Will see what happens. My stove is the sirocco 30.
You sure you're heating the wood up good enough so the wood will out gas well?
You see the cat could be stalled and the probe is just telling you the stove top temp because the coil is right on the stove..you follow?
 
Oh ya I've ran it on 3 for 1-2 hours stove top will be right around 650 degrees I back it off and you will still see smoke. All wood is seasoned fir. 15-18% on moisture meter.
 
Yeah mine use to glow like that when new. I haven't switched mine off since Oct 9th. (well once when inspecting the flue)

I can get mine glowing on 1 but not like the first few burns.

Diesels install is still pretty new.

Also I imagine more gas is produced from 4ft firebox vs the 3ft.
 
I think the sirricos and Ashfords can't be lumped into the same category as the princess and king. The air control is different. From my experience and others I've seen, they just don't like to run on 1. It's a different beast. I turn mine down just under 2 and the cat will fall off over time, I just crank it back up in the morning and the cat fires right back up.
 
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I think the sirricos and Ashfords can't be lumped into the same category as the princess and king. The air control is different. From my experience and others I've seen, they just don't like to run on 1. It's a different beast. I turn mine down just under 2 and the cat will fall off over time, I just crank it back up in the morning and the cat fires right back up.
That's is exactly my experience with mine.
 
6.5 hrs into the burn now, 3 year old top covered mixed hardwood. Right above cat is 540 on the ir temp gun. Still set on 1 glass is darker then normal. No emissions visible from the stack. Cat is about 1 o'clock position now. Most of the wood in the box doesn't even look charred. 40 deg out. N/s load, 1st time I've loaded this way. I have probably 25 loads through stove so it is somewhat new. Going for the elusive 24 hr burn....
 
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Something going with that Jeff, Wood, draft, defective stove component.

Mine runs on 1 @ -15C the same as it runs on 2 @ 5C as the draft is voracious at them temps.

Diesel: How many burns have you burnt?
 
I edited my last post after seeing yours to enter it has about 25 full loads threw. It's still pretty new.
 
I edited my last post after seeing yours to enter it has about 25 full loads threw. It's still pretty new.

Ha so the stove is 2 year old then?

==c :p

I managed 24hrs on a load of 'Instant chimney fire' pine.

Not getting that with Tamarack but It aint shoulder season no more.

Nice set up BTW.
 
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Ya, it was hot in here in the summer months....;)
 
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