A few pictures of our boiler systems.

Lets see if this works No Luck
Any tips on posting pic's??? anybody??

I couldnt figure it out until recently. Upload you pics to your pc in a file click upload file below where you enter your post, go to your pictures and select the picture/s

Effecta 60kw with pellet option 30kw

Been running pellets all winter, works great. At -40 plus for more than two days i have learned to switch to wood in the first 24 hours if it will stay that cold. Need the btus

At -20 the pellet gun work great heating 4800 sq ft.

BHetrick10 said:

I couldnt figure it out until recently. Upload you pics to your pc in a file click upload file below where you enter your post, go to your pictures and select the picture/s

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I tried that and got an error message,just tried it again same thing.No explanation as to what the error is.
Any other ideas?I am posting pic's from the same group on another web site.And there is another web site that i have the same issues as here.
Thanks Thomas

OWB, before I got smarter, 70 plus cord/year. 11000 sq ft between 4 buildings. This one has been gone since spring 2012



Effecta 60KW Lambda, gasser wood boiler with pellet option 30KW
Running this one on the house, 4800 sq ft



Titan II Coal boiler by Decker
This one heats the remaining 6200 sq ft between 3 buildings.










Best regards, from North Pole Alaska

NP ALASKA said:

Effecta 60kw with pellet option 30kw

Been running pellets all winter, works great. At -40 plus for more than two days i have learned to switch to wood in the first 24 hours if it will stay that cold. Need the btus

At -20 the pellet gun work great heating 4800 sq ft.

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Hey Morgan, just wondering - how is your pellet consumption, and how much do you pay for them way up there? I could see pellets being in my future - but hopefully not for quite a while yet. And hopefully by then the local supply situation will be better.

maple1 said:

Hey Morgan, just wondering - how is your pellet consumption, and how much do you pay for them way up there? I could see pellets being in my future - but hopefully not for quite a while yet. And hopefully by then the local supply situation will be better.

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The pellet burner will keep up to -20 or so, if it is going to stay around -20 or colder for more than a couple days I make the switch to wood and get the 60KW output.
I have been away before and early in my testing and getting familiar with the system I ran pellets (30Kw) down to -40. Wanted to see how it would keep up.

Day 1 - no problem
Day 2 - noticed a one degree to two degree drop in the house
Day 3 - noticed significant drop of 5-6 degrees or more temp dependant

This was expected with my sq footage that is why I went dual fuel.

I have learned to make the switch early enough to not loose much in house or she starts to voice her opinion! Lol

-10 1- 1.5 bags
-20 2-2.25 bags
-30 3-4 bags
-40 5+

Just my testing nothing scientific to it, a ledger showing date and how many bags I loaded in my half ton hopper.

Regards,

Oh yeah

269 a ton
or 5.38 /#40 bag

Hansson said:

Brazeing is geting more and more rarely used here. They are going over to press connections.
The grey thing is motorized damper. It opens when the boiler starts and close when the boiler stops.
The boiler room is getting really cold in the winter when I didn't have the motorized damper.
It can get down to -30 c here in the winters.
In Sweden its normal to have a ventilation hole that have the same diameter as the chimney.

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That is a good idea.

NP ALASKA said:

The pellet burner will keep up to -20 or so, if it is going to stay around -20 or colder for more than a couple days I make the switch to wood and get the 60KW output.
I have been away before and early in my testing and getting familiar with the system I ran pellets (30Kw) down to -40. Wanted to see how it would keep up.

Day 1 - no problem
Day 2 - noticed a one degree to two degree drop in the house
Day 3 - noticed significant drop of 5-6 degrees or more temp dependant

This was expected with my sq footage that is why I went dual fuel.

I have learned to make the switch early enough to not loose much in house or she starts to voice her opinion! Lol

-10 1- 1.5 bags
-20 2-2.25 bags
-30 3-4 bags
-40 5+

Just my testing nothing scientific to it, a ledger showing date and how many bags I loaded in my half ton hopper.

Regards,

Oh yeah

269 a ton
or 5.38 /#40 bag

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Glad to hear everything's been running well for you. I'm just curious how well insulated your place is to be that size and getting by with 100,000 btu in -20F. as far as I know you're the only person in the US using the effecta 60KW with the pellet head. this certainly seems to be a pretty good case study.

karl

Hey there, good to hear from you. Been busy as heck here just noticed you posted.

Again, I must say my calculations are estimates as I have no scientific statics backing it.
I can merely provide the temp, make up of the house and the fuel consumption rate.

The house is made up of 12 inch walls. double 2X6 with a space between the two frames. Insulated all the way through and very close attention when placing vapor barrier ensuring sealing of all seems, edges and even staples. the attached garage is 2X8 with the same attention to detail.
Currently we are about -5 to -12 at night and in the +30-40's during the day. my consumption rate has slowed so significantly over the last 2 weeks I have been a bit lazy in keeping any records.

I am extremely pleased and am using about 1/4 in pellet fuel to what it would be in oil. No complaints about that. I have learned allot using the system and must say it is very user friendly. The biggest thing like any of the boiler listed here, keep it clean and it will perform without question.

On another note: I have decided to add a boiler room to the side of the garage. I will again stick with 2x8 construction in keeping with the existing garage. My tanks with stay as they are and I will simply move boiler and pellet hopper into new garage area. I have attached my proposed layout. What do you think? Any suggestions?

Regards, Morgan

Karl_northwind said:

Glad to hear everything's been running well for you. I'm just curious how well insulated your place is to be that size and getting by with 100,000 btu in -20F. as far as I know you're the only person in the US using the effecta 60KW with the pellet head. this certainly seems to be a pretty good case study.

karl

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Nice drawings but.....

Why not leave the 60 kw where it is, relocate chimney to back wall, build new garage for the skid steer and wood storage? Why go through moving everything when you could just add the new space and have a full bay to utilize however needed?

The new room isnt my idea. The wife really likes the system but she can smell a hint of the boiler running. She is like the smoke smell police. Lol
she says the boiler has to be isolated so it (smell) doesnt get in her truck or the house. Anyhow bonus for me since she didnt freak out at my drawing and size of addition.

Thanks for the input though

NP ALASKA said:

Hey there, good to hear from you. Been busy as heck here just noticed you posted.

Again, I must say my calculations are estimates as I have no scientific statics backing it.
I can merely provide the temp, make up of the house and the fuel consumption rate.

The house is made up of 12 inch walls. double 2X6 with a space between the two frames. Insulated all the way through and very close attention when placing vapor barrier ensuring sealing of all seems, edges and even staples. the attached garage is 2X8 with the same attention to detail.
Currently we are about -5 to -12 at night and in the +30-40's during the day. my consumption rate has slowed so significantly over the last 2 weeks I have been a bit lazy in keeping any records.

I am extremely pleased and am using about 1/4 in pellet fuel to what it would be in oil. No complaints about that. I have learned allot using the system and must say it is very user friendly. The biggest thing like any of the boiler listed here, keep it clean and it will perform without question.

On another note: I have decided to add a boiler room to the side of the garage. I will again stick with 2x8 construction in keeping with the existing garage. My tanks with stay as they are and I will simply move boiler and pellet hopper into new garage area. I have attached my proposed layout. What do you think? Any suggestions?

Regards, Morgan

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That's a lotta insulation! I don't see anything wrong with what you've got planned.
karl

SO here we are onto another winter. Been running the pellet gun so far. I have learned a bit on settings and tuning while in pellet mode. I can now use the pellet gun pretty much all year with out any issues. The appliance has always been capable I just had to learn to drive it. LOL

I plan to burn wood December and January just to save a little on the $$$

Still very impressed with this system. Easy to operate and easy to clean.

I still plan to add 1000 gallons of storage to the already installed 1250.



Regards,

NP ALASKA said:

The pellet burner will keep up to -20 or so, if it is going to stay around -20 or colder for more than a couple days I make the switch to wood and get the 60KW output.
I have been away before and early in my testing and getting familiar with the system I ran pellets (30Kw) down to -40. Wanted to see how it would keep up.

Day 1 - no problem
Day 2 - noticed a one degree to two degree drop in the house
Day 3 - noticed significant drop of 5-6 degrees or more temp dependant

This was expected with my sq footage that is why I went dual fuel.

I have learned to make the switch early enough to not loose much in house or she starts to voice her opinion! Lol

-10 1- 1.5 bags
-20 2-2.25 bags
-30 3-4 bags
-40 5+

Just my testing nothing scientific to it, a ledger showing date and how many bags I loaded in my half ton hopper.

Regards,

Oh yeah

269 a ton
or 5.38 /#40 bag

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NP ALASKA said:

View attachment 124229 70 plus cord/year.

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FOR REAL???
70 REAL CORD
LIKE 4'x4'x8'
LIKE 128 cubic feet
DANG, Thats a full time job.
Did you ever get 3 years ahead?

infinitymike said:

FOR REAL???
70 REAL CORD
LIKE 4'x4'x8'
LIKE 128 cubic feet
DANG, Thats a full time job.
Did you ever get 3 years ahead?

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maybe that was one of those coffin type OWBs. reload it with the tractor that has the bucket grapple fork setup

Quite impressive with your current setup. Nice to have that flexibility too. Your insulating detail is impressive too. You would be surprised how many guys I know try to heat an poorly insulated workshop here in Nebraska.

Yep for real
it was like 15 cord all summer in my truck and the rest was log trucks delivered 3 or 4 in summmer and 2 or so in the winter
i would run a saw 2 hours everynight after work even at 40 and 50 bleow outside

this was my motivation to find a better way

Here's a little video of my wood boiler in action.

I also just added in floor heat above my tuck under garage using Rehau aluminum transfer plates and Rehau manifolds. The whole house and separate zones are all controlled via wireless Honeywell redlink thermostats that I can control from anywhere. This allows me to set back the temperature when I'm not home because my wife and I have different schedules and helps save more wood this way.



I cleaned up and straightened all these text lines after I got done they look kind of hokey in the pic.