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Sc Lo

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Nov 22, 2014
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Hello All,

New to the forum. I bought a home with a Harmon Accentra Insert about 3 1/2 years ago. I love the stove it has worked great. The first year there was no issues. The second year I had to replace the igniter. Which was told happens. The 3rd year my stove was working great then for a couple night it was making a squealing noise that was super loud and annoying. I had a technician come out from a local company to look at it. He said that augur was bent and caused a hold in the burn pot. They gave me a quote from what it would cost to fix. The reason I received for this to happen is that the temperature setting and the feeder setting were to low causing the auger to jam and cut into the burn pot. I was told I could still use it but it should be fixed sooner than later. We are in the 4th year of using the stove now and I have still have not had it fixed yet. I email Harmon on two occasions to see if the stove or any of the part were under warranty because it was less than 5 years old. I have never received a response from them.


I just don't understand that they have recommended setting of 70 degrees and the feeder should be on 4. Which I am ok with until it gets really hot in the house and then I like to lower it. I was told never to lower once fixed because the same thing could happen. Below is the quote I received. It seems awful expensive for a stove being the 3rd of the price of a brand new one. More venting but does anyone have any recommendation.

By the way i am still sing the stove in its current condition. But now i think the auger motor is going this year it keeps getting clogged or just stops working.




HSC 1-00-677150 FEEDER BODY WELDMENT REPLACEMENT 1 $398.00
KIT
HSC 3-50-00465 FEEDER AUGER 1 $114.00
HSC 1-10-00675 BURN POT WELDMENT 1 $156.00
HSC 1-00-07381 BURNPOT/TAILPIPE SET (QTY 5) 0.4 $26.00

Parts Job 1: $678.40

LABOR DESCRIPTION HRS RATE AMOUNT TOTAL
GENLAB SERVICE LABOR/First Hour 1 $125.00 $125.00
GENLAB2 SERVICE LABOR/additional hours 2 $160.00 $160.00
Hours Job 1: 3 Labor Job 1: $285.00
Subtotal Job 1: $963.40

ORDER TOTAL: $1,024.58
 
Hello All,

New to the forum. I bought a home with a Harmon Accentra Insert about 3 1/2 years ago. I love the stove it has worked great. The first year there was no issues. The second year I had to replace the igniter. Which was told happens. The 3rd year my stove was working great then for a couple night it was making a squealing noise that was super loud and annoying. I had a technician come out from a local company to look at it. He said that augur was bent and caused a hold in the burn pot. They gave me a quote from what it would cost to fix. The reason I received for this to happen is that the temperature setting and the feeder setting were to low causing the auger to jam and cut into the burn pot. I was told I could still use it but it should be fixed sooner than later. We are in the 4th year of using the stove now and I have still have not had it fixed yet. I email Harmon on two occasions to see if the stove or any of the part were under warranty because it was less than 5 years old. I have never received a response from them.


I just don't understand that they have recommended setting of 70 degrees and the feeder should be on 4. Which I am ok with until it gets really hot in the house and then I like to lower it. I was told never to lower once fixed because the same thing could happen. Below is the quote I received. It seems awful expensive for a stove being the 3rd of the price of a brand new one. More venting but does anyone have any recommendation.

By the way i am still sing the stove in its current condition. But now i think the auger motor is going this year it keeps getting clogged or just stops working.




HSC 1-00-677150 FEEDER BODY WELDMENT REPLACEMENT 1 $398.00
KIT
HSC 3-50-00465 FEEDER AUGER 1 $114.00
HSC 1-10-00675 BURN POT WELDMENT 1 $156.00
HSC 1-00-07381 BURNPOT/TAILPIPE SET (QTY 5) 0.4 $26.00

Parts Job 1: $678.40

LABOR DESCRIPTION HRS RATE AMOUNT TOTAL
GENLAB SERVICE LABOR/First Hour 1 $125.00 $125.00
GENLAB2 SERVICE LABOR/additional hours 2 $160.00 $160.00
Hours Job 1: 3 Labor Job 1: $285.00
Subtotal Job 1: $963.40

ORDER TOTAL: $1,024.58
If they do the job right I would say have it done it costs near $7000 for a new stove and you could also do the work yourself this spring when it's not being used to save yourself some cash
 
Just looked on harmans web site base model accentra is $4099 before installation I would fix the one you have.
 
See if you can find out where the stove was purchased they may still have the warranty information as well
 
I am also interested in the OP's original question of not using the lower feed settings, is this realistic, I cannot believe Harman allows dettings that would have the unit self destruct ? I hope the harman guys chime in on this and explain !!
 
I wasn't given any low setting warning for my harman not sure I've heard that before
 
Thanks for all the responses. I guess i will get it fixed it or try to fix it in the spring. I will see how far i get this year with it. I also would like to know about the settings. If any one has any experience with that issue.

The way the tech explained it to me is when the thermostat and the feeder is set low it could cause auger to jam and then the augur with try to work through the jam and that is when the augur made a hole in the burn pot.

I followed it up with when it is fixed will this happen again if i put it back on low settings. He said it could happen again and would not recommend low settings.
 
Thanks for all the responses. I guess i will get it fixed it or try to fix it in the spring. I will see how far i get this year with it. I also would like to know about the settings. If any one has any experience with that issue.

The way the tech explained it to me is when the thermostat and the feeder is set low it could cause auger to jam and then the augur with try to work through the jam and that is when the augur made a hole in the burn pot.

I followed it up with when it is fixed will this happen again if i put it back on low settings. He said it could happen again and would not recommend low settings.
Maybe you need to find a dealer who will work with you to get the warranty honored IF it is in effect with you as the second owner.
 
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The feed rate is recommended to be set at 4 I would always leave the feed rate at 4 then set the temp at what ever temp you want and that should do it.
 
How can the auger cut a hole in the burn pot? It spins in place and never has actual contact with the burn pot. I am confused . . . maybe after a few beers it will make sense to me?
 
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How can the auger cut a hole in the burn pot? It spins in place and never has actual contact with the burn pot. I am confused . . . maybe after a few beers it will make sense to me?
It's conceivable but the conditions would have to be just right over a protracted period to accomplish it w/o the owner hearing it.
 
How can the auger cut a hole in the burn pot? It spins in place and never has actual contact with the burn pot. I am confused . . . maybe after a few beers it will make sense to me?
Mee too I tried a few beers and switched to the hard stuff I think it may be coming to me will let ya know if I figure it out
 
I have never heard of this problem before, and I run both my Harmans on low for extended periods. How can the auger make a hole in the burn pot? On my Accentra the auger is at least 1/2" inside the tube so doesn't even get close to contacting the burn pot. Are you confident the tech knows what he is talking about? And not looking to make a few bucks?
 
The feed rate determines only the length of time that the feed motor runs and would have nothing to do with cutting a hole in the auger tube. More than likely the bearings in the auger allowed the auger to start hitting the bottom and the metal at the end can deteriorate and become sharp which can cut into the tube.
 
The feed rate determines only the length of time that the feed motor runs and would have nothing to do with cutting a hole in the auger tube. More than likely the bearings in the auger allowed the auger to start hitting the bottom and the metal at the end can deteriorate and become sharp which can cut into the tube.
This could happen even on a stove this new being its only 4years old?
 
Mee too I tried a few beers and switched to the hard stuff I think it may be coming to me will let ya know if I figure it out

I'll give the scotch a try. Still not seeing how this can happen.
 
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I run my Harman on room temp 70, and the feed rate between 3.5 and 4 all the time without any issues. The booklet doesn't have a low setting warning, and the techs who set my stove up gave me no warnings, so am unsure to what the tech thinks he is referring to.

Is there any way you can get a second tech to look at it (from another company)? If so, don't tell him/her anything but what the symptom is, then you will either get an answer very similar for parts needed, or find that the first tech doesn't know as much as one could wish. Something just doesn't sound right.
 
Is this a problem with a specific burn pot?

well that is the only burn pot that I know of that does have a problem when running on low. I searched for information on it last night, but couldn't find anything. If I remember correctly it would burn the tip off of the auger? maybe it was producing some cracks or wear on the burn pot in extreme cases, I wish i could have found some of those old threads that had pictures in it. I know I had a customer bring us one to the shop. The auger end was burnt up but the burn pot was still ok. replaced the auger, welded the 5 holes at the bottom of the pot and ground it smooth, its been several years and never heard back from him.
 
I called another place and they want to charge $250 just for the service call. That is the second places closest to me.

What you are describing above would make more sense to me if it was just the Auger and the burn pot could be welded. But to have to replace the whole set up is what i am having a problem with.
 
I've been running my Harman Accentra insert feeder on 3 for about a year now. No issues (yet) but don't know if it's different for an insert than a stove...that's what the guys set it on when they installed it.
 
This it?
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/smoky-accentra.55824/#post-709101
or this one?
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads...-continually-but-no-ignite.11799/#post-217384
smoke in hopper = potential issue, sooner or later = talk to the dealer. All "mods" can be checked to see if they are there, but some cant be seen without pulling the auger out. The "5 hole" mod seems to help with the carbon accumulation, but doesnt help with the smoky hopper or gummy slide plate issue. In fact, recent correspondence with Harman suggests actually filling the lowest holes near the auger (if they exist), which to me suggests that they *might* be detrimental to the smoky hopper or sticky slide plate issues. Only 10 ignitor changes? I dunno, we are somewhere near 100 right now.
per Lousyweather Mar 10, 2009
 
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