Where's the heat, Myriad?

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Your getting some good advice. I can only echo, the wood is not dry enough & the temp is not high enough. If you need more stack height, get that done, as it will help with draft tremendously.
The hickory I processed took 3 years to dry, some larger pcs could use another year.
That glass is a pure indicator of wet wood and low temps.
 
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Sounds good. Is this DuraPlus pipe by DuraVent. If so it should be fairly easy to find. Home Depot sells it.

You are right about the 12'. I missed it, but a search showed it up in the technical specifications. Thanks for the correction.

Any luck finding some drier wood? Maybe they also have bundles at Home Depot?

Yes, DuraPlus/DVL/Duravent ... it is the same company, but since I threw the box out last year ... I'm nearly sure it is "Duraplus."

No problem with getting the height incorrect. I just had to be sure and thought maybe you had a more up-to-date reference manual than I.

No, ... I have not searched for (drier) wood as of yet. The reason being I did not burn last night and I am not burning tonight. Tomorrow is Monday and Tuesday will be here before you know it. Looks like the better weather of the entire week, however, will be on Tuesday. I told my friend that I do not want him up on a tall ladder or the roof if we're going to get some light rain. On weatherspark.com, it looks like we're going into the 20s at night this week, but my friend understands that the roof/new pipe addition is my priority for that morning, ... plus, he said after it's installed he said let's start a fire in it and see how it does.

If this baby goes like I think it will, I think I'm gonna be more excited than the day the stove was delivered here.

Thanks to THIS website, I've read a few other stories of owners having trouble and they end up adding more pipe and WAAALAAA, the draft problem is solved; the stove burns beautifully after this and their house is now truly warmer ... making it worth the purchase.

I admit, I almost went and spent between 2 and 3 thousand on a "soapstone" stove as its what I actually wanted for awhile but I think I will be glad that I am giving the Drolet a chance to shine. You know the other thing I like about the Myraid? Its stainless-steel baffle. Which I might never have to replace, compared to the ceramic type. I honestly wanted a wood stove that I do not have to fuss over all the time; a reliable house-warmer.

The greatest joy I will feel inside (OK, readers don't laugh here, huh?) is when the stove is taking care of my heating needs and I will see a drop in my electric monthly bill, as I do not have any central heating, and have just been using space heaters (last year), plus a little bit of this year before I got the stove!!
 
The greatest joy I will feel inside (OK, readers don't laugh here, huh?) is when the stove is taking care of my heating needs and I will see a drop in my electric monthly bill, as I do not have any central heating, and have just been using space heaters (last year), plus a little bit of this year before I got the stove!!

Oh man, once you get this stove dialed in you're gonna love it; the electric bill is going to take a total nose dive and you're gonna be so excited that yer like to wet yer pants! :) That's exactly how I felt last year once I started burning and the electric bill dropped off the chart; people at work begging me to shut up about my "ridiculously low" monthly electric bills, and "no thank you, we really don't need to see graphs comparing last years and this years electric usage....." :)
 
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Hi there A M. I have a Drolet Austral, pretty much the same stove as yours. I have my Austral installed in the basement and it is heating the entire house very well. Once you have extended the chimney and get yourself some properly dry wood to burn, your Drolet will burn great for you! Don't give up; it is an absolutely fantastic stove!

Cheers

Thank you, Chuck. I appreciate your input, and understand that the (Drolet) Myraid, Austral and Baltic ARE similar with just very minute differences. I really do need to get that Wood Moisture Meter from (NT), so that I can prove to myself how dry my wood is and IF it is definitely OVER 20% wet, then, I'll take that meter over to a guy selling his wood in the back of his truck (not a true 4' x 4' x 8' cord), ask him how much he charges and then insert the meter. If it reads over 20% moisture-level, then I don't care if he is selling that wood for $25.00 ... I will not purchase it and will politely ask him if he realizes his wood is not dry enough to properly burn in the EPA-approved stoves?

Of course, I'll be polite and professional, but I'll casually let him know what I know now. He'll either learn something new or already knows and does not care ... !
 
Hopefully adding 3 feet to your flue will solve your problem but if your woods not seasoned enough one of the ways to solve it is by mixing eco bricks in with the wood that you have seeing how the eco bricks are really dry. If you can find some wood seasoned enough even better but at this time of the year it can be tough depending on where you live.
Lets see how it burns with the added pipe before moving on to another step.

Thank you, Weatherguy. Well, it is an idea to "mix" the products, but as you concluded, ... I want to SEE what happens with the extra pipe. But, I guess I'd better get that meter pretty quick, because I need to better gauge whether I should continue to utilize the wood/s I still have in my garage or should I hold off on using them for the 2014/2015 season and try and locate some nice red or white oak?

I did not really want to spend more money on "wood" for this year; however, I want to do right by this (new) stove and certainly want a warmer house and a clear glass, too. The only way I'm going to gain a warmer house when the temps drop in a few more weeks, presumably, is by getting the hardwoods that produce the higher BTUs.

Since (N. Tool) gave me a $100.00 emailed credit, I may be getting that Meter from them; its just got to have high ratings on the reviews, as I do not want to buy a Meter that is not accurate and I will have wasted the money / credit. It's work to stay a smart consumer, but its so worth it when you realize how much you've ended up saving in the long run.
 
I have the Austral too, which is basically the same thing as your stove. This is my first year burning in it so im learning as well. I had the same problem with the dirty glass and it was pointed out to me that i cant push the air intake rod all the way in because that chokes down the air to much and affects the air wash. By leaving it out 1/4 to 1/2 inch i pretty much eliminated the dirty glass problem. My chimney is only 12 ft high so i still have draft issues and stuff im trying to figure out as well. As far as heat goes im impressed with the amount of heat this thing kicks out. Load that sucker up, get it going good and it cooks. I heat 1600 sq ft easily with it.
Definitely more of a learning curve than i anticipated but i think once you get it figured out you'll be pleased with your stove.

Thank you, KindredSpriitzz ... wow, so you have a Drolet (Astral) and have experienced the blackened-glass-view, thing, too?

With your 12' chimney, ... are you considering adding another 2' or 3' more of pipe?

Are you burning the good hardwoods? I assume you are as you said that after you fill it up, it gives you a lot of heat. How great for you, but nice to know that someone is going through the same (temporary) problems with their stove. As I stated in my initial post ... I started to feel defeated and bewildered at the same time and even thought for a few fleeting seconds "wow, am I just unlucky with stoves and aren't meant to enjoy a nice stove?"

OK, that probably sounds really hokey, but, I'm just being truthful with what was going through my head the first few days and wondering (seriously) ... are all of those positive reviewers a bunch of liars or are they phony reviewers. Yep, I only half-believed that also for a few seconds. Although now-a-days, unless the website shows onlookers that the review is by a "VERIFIED PURCHASER," anyone can write in and say anything they wish for the purpose of potential buyers of that product to take that plunge and buy it.

I am sure all that I read were real honest reviews and I am really more confident now that I am going to experience the wonderful heat that these new secondary burning stoves, can and do produce. I highly doubt that after the extra pipe is added that I will never have to wear my Land's End jacket over my bathrobe on a super cold morning ever again!
 
and yes indeed, i learned this the hard way on mine. If you leave the handle on the bypass damper the weight of it will open the damper by itself. You're suppose to take the handle off after each use which is a pain. I found if i just took off the round wire knob off the lever it was enough to keep it from moving on its own. I keep an oven mitt handy to move the lever when i need to. Got my chimney pretty hot a few times with that thing opening on its own.

Well, I really do appreciate you "sharing" this with me (and others reading who may have never heard of such a thing happening). I am thinking now but have not made up my mind that AFTER the extra chimney pipe is added, to perhaps take off the handle on the bypass damper and not even use it?

But, there's plenty of time to give it more thought before I make that decision. I have always been careful and even read the OM several times which turn is "on" and which turn is "off," so that it was ingrained in my brain to know what I was doing. Even then, if you get busy doing other things here and there in the house and you forget. Oh, dear. Let's not even go there with what could happen to an over-heated wood stove, shall we not?
 
Your getting some good advise. I can only echo, the wood is not dry enough & the temp is not high enough. If you need more stack height, get that done, as it will help with draft tremendously.
The hickory I processed took 3 years to dry, some larger pcs could use another year.
That glass is a pure indicator of wet wood and low temps.


Hello, Hogwildz, thank you for your post and for chiming in. Yes, I am getting good advice from people and the feed-back is great.

... "the wood is not dry enough and the temperature is not high enough ... " I think you are correct. That and it needs more chimney.

The second evening here after it was installed, though ... remember I mentioned that the stove pipe was so hot, I could not keep my finger on it longer than one (1) second because it was literally too darn hot. I don't understand how the piping can get THAT hot, yet it won't burn off the glass or radiate into the surrounding rooms?

Yes, as I've been replying to all who (kindly) wrote in. I can't wait to see what happens - and I mean in a major GOOD way - once that extra pipe is added.

Your hickory wood took "3" years to completely dry out? Now, that's a lot of time. Was that putiing it in some sun during the spring and summer months or did you keep it inside for all of that time?

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Since we seem to be at a pause, I thought you might like to have a touch of encouragement. Besides, pictures are fun, are they not?

Drolet Baltic (same stove, with shields). This is 4 pieces of pine 4x4, one hour into the burn, with air at full shutdown, stovetop at 550* F. I'll get about 4 hours out of this little load. Once you get your problems solved, these stoves can be real gems.
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Won't be long, and you'll be at the fun part. These folks can steer you right. They got me on the right track.
 
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Oh man, once you get this stove dialed in you're gonna love it; the electric bill is going to take a total nose dive and you're gonna be so excited that yer like to wet yer pants! :) That's exactly how I felt last year once I started burning and the electric bill dropped off the chart; people at work begging me to shut up about my "ridiculously low" monthly electric bills, and "no thank you, we really don't need to see graphs comparing last years and this years electric usage....." :)

Haa, haa, haa. I can imagine how co-workers would feel like, knowing that their electric bills were well over say, $100.00, and yours was UNDER that, by far.

The ONLY thing I wish the Myraid has is: CA and WA approved: lower than 4.5 grams of emissions.

It's close but it's technically not approved for those two States, due to its registered hourly emissions of 5.7.

However, ... I tell myself that this fact is not a deal breaker or I certainly would not have gotten it and I was just slightly disappointed with knowing this before I got it. I decided that there were several other wonderful things about it that would outweigh that minor issue.

I will honestly tell you that I contemplated even the newest stove that woodstock.com company in NH sells. They, as you probably know, won the 2013 Design contest last year ... as their new stove actually puts out LESS THAN "1" gram of gas emissions per hour.

You could either pay $1,700 for it or $2,200 (with all of the bells and whistles such as a cooktop grate, etc.).

In the end, I couldn't stand the look of the front handle. I was going to get it (if I got it) in the white and biege design. They actually PAINT it in any color you choose, as long as they've got that color in stock.

Yes, it would have been more money than the Drolet choice I made ... but the handle on their steel stove ... I would have never been fully happy with that stove simply based on that DETAIL. I truly prefer "wood" handles on a stove, if you want to get specific, but I will say that the (gold) handles on this Myriad do not look bad, at all.
 
Since we seem to be at a pause, I thought you might like to have a touch of encouragement. Besides, pictures are fun, are they not?

Drolet Baltic (same stove, with shields). This is 4 pieces of pine 4x4, one hour into the burn, with air at full shutdown, stovetop at 550* F. I'll get about 4 hours out of this little load. Once you get your problems solved, these stoves can be real gems.
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Won't be long, and you'll be at the fun part. These folks can steer you right. They got me on the right track.
 
AM just remember when you measure moisture in wood you have to split the wood and measure in the middle of a fresh split piece. A lot of us got the General moisture meter from Lowes for $30 and it works just fine.
 
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Thank you for the wonderful photos, WriteNoob.

That's very real "encouragement" you are sharing. Yes, I know these people do know a LOT and they're humble about it, too. They're not braggarts and do not come across at all at making the new stove owners feel like ... well, you know what I mean.

Only four pieces of 4" x 4" pine was burning in that shot?

And, you shut down the air control knob all the way? I understood that if you did do this that the fire would burn out completely? No, this isn't your finding?

I look forward to truly enjoying my stove and will let you guys know how it turned out when I do.
 
This is a bit of a cheat. It's construction lumber, kiln dried. I skipped a year or two of drying time. I just happen to have access, through work.
 
With your 12' chimney, ... are you considering adding another 2' or 3' more of pipe?

Yeah i'll probably add at least 2 more ft at some point. The stove runs pretty good as it is now but i have issue with smoke pouring out on reloads if i don't open the bypass damper and for some reason i don't get the secondaries everyone seems to get. My secondaries last about 7 minutes tops and i never get those slow lazy flames everyone talks about. Kind of fast and furious and then they die out. Maybe thats cause i leave the air slightly open or maybe I need more chimney.
I had a hell of a time with dirty glass for awhile. I'd get the stove going good, push the air intake knob all the way in like it says in the owners manual and in the morning there'd be a thick tar like creosote film on the glass without fail. After a suggestion here i'd leave it about a 1/4 inch open and have not had that problem since.
That by pass damper bears watching, even without the lever on i have accidentally hit the flapper inside the stove while reloading causing it to open. And of course i like to forget when I open it a lot. Im slowly becoming inclined just not to use it.
 
Hello, Hogwildz, thank you for your post and for chiming in. Yes, I am getting good advice from people and the feed-back is great.

... "the wood is not dry enough and the temperature is not high enough ... " I think you are correct. That and it needs more chimney.

The second evening here after it was installed, though ... remember I mentioned that the stove pipe was so hot, I could not keep my finger on it longer than one (1) second because it was literally too darn hot. I don't understand how the piping can get THAT hot, yet it won't burn off the glass or radiate into the surrounding rooms?

Yes, as I've been replying to all who (kindly) wrote in. I can't wait to see what happens - and I mean in a major GOOD way - once that extra pipe is added.

Your hickory wood took "3" years to completely dry out? Now, that's a lot of time. Was that putiing it in some sun during the spring and summer months or did you keep it inside for all of that time?

If you or anyone else can advise on a lightweight, cordless chain-saw for under $300.00 (battery included), I'd appreciate knowing the brand and reasons why it is such a good chainsaw for the price, etc. I have a neighbor who owns several acres with tons of trees on it and I am able (if I really set my mind to do it) to chop up firewood, a year or two in advance.
The triple wall is Duraplus, the double wall is Duratech. HD mostly sells the triple wall and stove pipe. Remember, the double wall and triple wall are not compatible.
Also keep in mind, if your wood ain't dry, the added pipe ain't going to solve your issue,until you get dry wood.
The pipe is hot because your probably leaving more air in, to try and dry the wood and get burn temps up.
More air let in, equally more air up the stack taking the heat with it. These stoves operate best with dry wood, air cut back as far as possible without causing smoldering, the cut back air lessens the volume flowing through and up the stack, means lower stack temp, and higher firebox temp. And if your damper is falling open, or left oen, then any heat created is zooming up the stack, instead of being trapped in the stove. Again, another reason for higher stack temps and cooler box temps.
With wet wood, you just can't get performance, at all.

Hickory can take up to 4 years to dry, depending of how large you split it and where it is out to dry.
Mine has been stacked in open sun and wind for 3 years. I have been stacking the last couple years worth of processed wood in my barn, which is open and airy, so no drying issues there.
Some woods just take longer to let go of moisture then others. Hickory being one of them.
 
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And, you shut down the air control knob all the way? I understood that if you did do this that the fire would burn out completely? No, this isn't your finding?

When you "shut down" one of these stoves, you're not killing the air, completely. There is still a very small amount getting in, by design. Also, there is air entering at the top, through the secondaries. However, you can't maintain a burn this way unless the wood is truly dry. I've only been able to do this, so far, with compressed bricks (Eco Bricks) and dimensional lumber. My cordwood isn't dry enough. Maybe next year.

A suggestion. If you don't yet have wood, for next year, you might want to get it between now and spring. And I'd stick to types that can be acceptably dry in a year, or less. Personally, I'm doing pine, as nobody else will touch the stuff, and gotten during this winter, can be ready next fall. Just be smarter than me, and cover your stacks. I didn't. That's why mine isn't quite primo. It'll soak up rain. Birch, some soft maples, and poplar are also quick driers, along with the conifers. If there is such a thing as a Holy Grail, for us new guys, truly dry wood has got to be it. With it, everything else is fairly easily learned. Without, and all the rest can seem futile. Learning this, the hard way (my most common form of education, it seems), myself, after I thought I had it all set to go.
 
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and for some reason i don't get the secondaries everyone seems to get. My secondaries last about 7 minutes tops and i never get those slow lazy flames everyone talks about. Kind of fast and furious and then they die out. Maybe thats cause i leave the air slightly open or maybe I need more chimney.

Yep, you need more chimney. I installed a new chimney this summer (now without a 3' horizontal run!) and my performance increase has been crazy. Between that and some good wood, I think I'm finally doing a good half of the wood consumption I had last year with the same stove.

The draft is what pulls air through the secondary tubes. Poor draft = poor secondaries = poor performance.

And to the OP, if you have the room and the finances, get started on next years wood now!
 
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The triple wall is Duraplus, the double wall is Duratech. HD mostly sells the triple wall and stove pipe. Remember, the double wall and triple wall are not compatible.
Also keep in mind, if your wood ain't dry, the added pipe ain't going to solve your issue,until you get dry wood.
The pipe is hot because your probably leaving more air in, to try and dry the wood and get burn temps up.
More air let in, equally more air up the stack taking the heat with it. These stoves operate best with dry wood, air cut back as far as possible without causing smoldering, the cut back air lessens the volume flowing through and up the stack, means lower stack temp, and higher firebox temp. And if your damper is falling open, or left oen, then any heat created is zooming up the stack, instead of being trapped in the stove. Again, another reason for higher stack temps and cooler box temps.
With wet wood, you just can't get performance, at all.

Hickory can take up to 4 years to dry, depending of how large you split it and where it is out to dry.
Mine has been stacked in open sun and wind for 3 years. I have been stacking the last couple years worth of processed wood in my barn, which is open and airy, so no drying issues there.
Some woods just take longer to let go of moisture then others. Hickory being one of them.


I need to be 100% clear as I may have misunderstood something quite important from last year in talking to different people:


Is it OK, perfectly safe and OK, to use double-wall stove pipe and then use triple-wall chimney pipe outside?

I just read what you wrote and it could be taken that way OR it could be meant as not MIXING double and triple wall on one's CHIMNEY pipe.

I am very surprised to SEE TRIPLE WALL STOVE PIPE at HD when I looked immediately after I read this.

Honestly, no one has ever told me that you can not or should install DB inside and TW outside.

In fact, - which I never would even if I lived in a regular house - I would never put in SINGLE-WALL inside; it gets too darn hot fairly quick and certainly would never give me any peace of mind.

Please, clarify this for me because to me this is major important and others need to understand it, too (yes, newbies, we've got to learn this stuff) ... !
 
AM just remember when you measure moisture in wood you have to split the wood and measure in the middle of a fresh split piece. A lot of us got the General moisture meter from Lowes for $30 and it works just fine.

Thanks, Weatherguy. That is a great tip on the moisture meter. I live outside of the Springfield, MO. area and believe it or not, when I inquired late LAST YEAR at four stores, including Lowes, where I live in. They did not stock them and have never (yet) carried them. I couldn't believe it, but, I never did order one from amazon.com, whose got plenty of them to sell. Now that I've also looked it up on the Home Depot store (on-line), well lookie-there, they sell them, too, ... thanks again.
 
I use the same stove, the Drolet Myriad.

I am coming to this post late. You have a stove that will heat well. You just have a little of a learning curve to go thru and get your chimney height so that you get a good draft.

I have never had my damper move on its own. I leave the handle on all the time.

Your results looks to be wood with too much moisture or your shutting the stove down before your have the heat built up in the stove. You ought to get you a couple of the Condar stove thermometers One for about 12 inches above the stove on the pipe if its single wall pipe or a probe type thermometer for double wall pipe. Then have one thermometer for the stove top.

You need to use your first load of wood to build up a coal bed in the stove. You need kindling and a good fire starter to get your first load started. But if your wood is sub par in all these EPA stoves its going to be a major pain to start a load.

I leave my bypass open and the door cracked open to start a fire and let the stove pipe of a single wall pipe to get to about 400-425 and the stove top to like about 300 then I close the door and close the bypass but the input air is pulled all the way out to fully open. As with this stove with alot of air flow the stove top with the door cracked and bypass open will heat the pipe up a little more than other stoves and the stove top temp will be a little lower. Once you get the door closed and bypass closed temp will rise fast on the stove top and the stove pipe temps will slow down then as you start closing your input air in increments of 1/4 ways , what you will see is your pipe temps will start decreasing your your stove top will increase.

All of this will be simpler on the next load of wood on a hot bed of coals. But basically the same procedure.

I maybe shut down things a little sooner with the hot bed of coals as it allows me too.

If your wood has too much moisture split it all one more time and that will help and mix it with some drier stuff.

Bring in a load of wood to sit by the stove while the current load of wood is burning and that will help dry the next load out that you just split one more time.

Remember this its all about the heat , building up the heat in the fire box to make these stoves work. If you leave the door open too long and the bypass open too long it makes it harder to build heat in the fire box so you got to get the door shut and bypass shut as your flushing your heat up the flue and that will show up as high flue pipe temp and low stove top temps.

Fire starters and good kindling works wonders for building the heat up in the stove on cold starts until you get that all important bed of coals.
You can overcome a little too much moisture with the good kindling and good firestarters to get the heat boost from them as its all about the heat in the firebox that lets you get your input air shut back down that allows heat to build in the firebox.

But wood with way too much moisture any EPA stove will not be able to heat up properly as the moisture cools the firebox.
 
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I use the same stove, the Drolet Myriad.

I am coming to this post late. You have a stove that will heat well. You just have a little of a learning curve to go thru and get your chimney height so that you get a good draft.

I have never had my damper move on its own. I leave the handle on all the time.

Your results looks to be wood with too much moisture or your shutting the stove down before your have the heat built up in the stove. You ought to get you a couple of the Condar stove thermometers One for about 12 inches above the stove on the pipe if its single wall pipe or a probe type thermometer for double wall pipe. Then have one thermometer for the stove top.

You need to use your first load of wood to build up a coal bed in the stove. You need kindling and a good fire starter to get your first load started. But if your wood is sub par in all these EPA stoves its going to be a major pain to start a load.

I leave my bypass open and the door cracked open to start a fire and let the stove pipe of a single wall pipe to get to about 500 and the stove top to like 350 then I close the door and close the bypass but the input air is pulled all the way out to fully open. As with this stove with alot of air flow the stove top with the door cracked and bypass open will heat the pipe up a little more than other stoves and the stove top temp will be a little lower. Once you get the door closed and bypass closed temp will rise fast on the stove top and the stove pipe temps will slow down then as you start closing your input air in increments of 1/4 ways , what you will see is your pipe temps will start decreasing your your stove top will increase.

All of this will be simpler on the next load of wood on a hot bed of coals. But basically the same procedure.

I maybe shut down things a little sooner with the hot bed of coals as it allows me too.

If your wood has too much moisture split it all one more time and that will help and mix it with some drier stuff.

Bring in a load of wood to sit by the stove while the current load of wood is burning and that will help dry the next load out that you just split one more time.

Remember this its all about the heat , building up the heat in the fire box to make these stoves work. If you leave the door open too long and the bypass open too long it makes it harder to build heat in the fire box so you got to get the door shut and bypass shut as your flushing your heat up the flue and that will show up as high flue pipe temp and low stove top temps.

Fire starters and good kindling works wonders for building the heat up in the stove on cold starts until you get that all important bed of coals.
You can overcome a little too much moisture with the good kindling and good firestarters to get the heat boost from them as its all about the heat in the firebox that lets you get your input air shut back down that allows heat to build in the firebox.

But wood with way too much moisture any EPA stove will not be able to heat up properly as the moisture cools the firebox.


Huntingdog1 ... what a help I have just read now of your advise ... especially THAT you've got the very same stove as mine!!

I just came back from a local store that sells Duravent. I bought a 3' triple-wall chimney addition pipe for $98.00 AND called Duravent's 800 number (on the box) before I took it up to the register to pay for it. Their technical support department was soooo helpful. Turns out they do not even make the triple-wall STOVE PIPE. He said I am super safe using what I already have: their double-wall stove pipe, the 24' ceiling box, then their brand of triple-wall CHIMNEY pipe and now my friend is going to add on this 3' section tomorrow, weather willing.

As a side-note, during the start of Fall, I elected to put on some" Reflectix" brand covering on the inside of my garage door. It is "25" outside today, yet my car's temp showed "40" degrees when I got in. I'm heading on out to the store to get that pipe. Five minutes later from home I am looking at the car's temp gauge and it is 25. I know it is because I put up that simple but effective covering onto my garage door. Had I known earlier about it, I would have put it on during Spring, before Summer started. It can benefit a garage in the cold of winter or the heat of summer. No, I am no spokesperson for product. Just happy that I got it and put it in place. I see the results now.

Anyway, getting back to the wood stove ... yes, I am clearer now about mixing double-wall and triple-wall pipe, as Hogwildz mentioned. You can NOT ever do this on the outside, but you can do double-wall inside and up into triple-wall with the same brand and the same type.

I asked the tech guy at Duravent if my new pipe will still go perfectly with the Duravent stainless-steel HT pipe that is up there now. I thought it was irrelevant to tell him that I did not buy that section brand new but got it barely used from a person who only used it part of one heating season.

The tech said if it is triple-wall chimney wall, it does not matter if the box does not SAY HT, because all of their triple-wall is high temperature and is non-burnable up to 2100 degrees. He said that they do make pipe that will say HTC, but the 'C' stands for Canada; otherwise, this pipe will 'twist and lock,' into place once secured.

He said I will get a better draft definitely. I told him that my friend thinks I can save some bucks and put up two 12" sections but that I prefer the 3' and it's all in one section; nothing to put together and then lock into place. I may have mentioned already in this posting that the roof extension bracket is going to be added, as well. Many times where I live weatherspark.com will show 13 or 14 miles an hour wind, but just by the sound of it, I could swear its double that and with the extra pipe going up into the old, I can not see NOT putting up the bracket to further support all of the combined piping.

Anyway, I'm going to refer to this post 'whenever' I need to. This has been so helpful. It surely doesn't matter that your posting is 'late,' it is a tremendous amount of good, solid and first-hand information for owners of the Drolet Myraid and even wood burners to learn, in general, if they do not perhaps know all of what you and others are sharing. I'm indebted; thank you! :)
 
That is correct. There is no triple-wall stove pipe, just chimney pipe. The support bracket attaches at the 5ft level of the chimney pipe. Were you able to pick up some bundles of dry wood while at the store?
 
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Being an owner of the same stove, I agree with everything Huntingdog had to say in his post. I was a newbie too last year at this time and I went through some of the same issues you're having with questionable wood, hard starts and bad results because mostly I didn't know what the heck I was doing. Fortunately I didn't have any issues with my chimney. Getting those Condor temp gauges will really help you see how the stove is performing and will help shorten your learning curve overall. I really like the bypass damper on this stove for getting fast starts and I also leave the handle on too and have never had an issue with it opening on its own. Once you get the kinks worked out you're really going to like this stove.
 
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That is correct. There is no triple-wall stove pipe, just chimney pipe. The support bracket attaches at the 5ft level of the chimney pipe. Were you able to pick up some bundles of dry wood while at the store?

Begreen, ... yes, I learned a few things today and am just fine with my double-wall pipe. No, ... I did not get a few pieces of wood today. It IS super cold today and frost/ice on the ground today, mostly overcast. However, although I am tempted to light the box, I've decided to not light another fire tonight (making this 3 nights in a row), as the additional chimney pipe will be installed tomorrow (weather-cooperating, naturally).

Yes, I know. I have to solve the quality of wood (problem), even after the new chimney is extended ...
 
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