Liking the new P61A

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LuvMyPellets

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Nov 15, 2012
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Delaware
Into my 5th day burning.Don't get me wrong, not a fanboy yet. Still some things I don't like vs my Afton Bay but more good than bad. Likes: More heat and more even. Lucky I have what could almost be called a shotgun house. You can see the back door when you walk in the front. Today it is 30. Dining room where the stove is located is 72. Living room is 72 and Kitchen is 72. All three bedrooms are 70. I messed with the room probe and you can now see it hanging temporarily just inside the living room on an interior no draft area. Just did not work in the dining room where the stove is and I tried just over the wall into the kitchen and it too was inconsistent. In comparing the two to be fair the Afton Bay was on the wall and pointed at the other wall. The corner install allows heat to be directed more towards the living area and the radiated heat keeps the kitchen warm. Found out quickly the fan needs to be on high at all times to keep things even. Cleaning: What a joke. I see not one black spot inside the stove. Just pink from clean burning. Pellet use: Not sure about that yet but seems to be about the same. Dislikes: I tried turning off the igniter after it lit to see what the idling was all about. Worthless: No fan = waste of pellets+hot room the stove is in and the rest of the house is cold. I swear while it was idling the exhaust was hotter than when it is running. The pellet hopper is too narrow and hard to dump a bag in without getting pellets everywhere.(for me anyway an old wimp)Obviously the big plus with the Harman is the regulation of the exhaust temp. That keeps it burning clean-way cleaner than the Afton Bay.
Just a side note: 4" Duravent is chit. It leaks in every seam possible. I am still trying to get it sealed after almost 5 days. If you think I am nuts take a look at the 4 to 3 adapter they give you for the back of the stove. The outside of the pipe that goes onto the stove is actually the outer jacket and the interior pipe goes inside the stove outlet. That directs smoke directly into the outer jacket. Now I am down to a faint whiff of smoke on startup and can not find it. Sooner or later I will.
 

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I have the XXV, but when in Room Temp mode, I wish the fans would run longer when the stove stops adding pellets to maintain the room temp. I think that would increase the room temp a bit, but its better than wasting heat out the exhaust, it just seems to shutoff the fans sooner than I would like. Would be nice to tweak the programming for this...
 
I have the XXV, but when in Room Temp mode, I wish the fans would run longer when the stove stops adding pellets to maintain the room temp. I think that would increase the room temp a bit, but its better than wasting heat out the exhaust, it just seems to shutoff the fans sooner than I would like. Would be nice to tweak the programming for this...
Are you running in Room temp auto or manual ?
 
Are you running in Room temp auto or manual ?

Huh?! On my unit, its either Room Temp(H vs L) or Stove temp(H vs L), no Auto setting. The only auto setting I am aware of is for the igniter, which is always on Auto.
 
Huh?! On my unit, its either Room Temp(H vs L) or Stove temp(H vs L), no Auto setting. The only auto setting I am aware of is for the igniter, which is always on Auto.
Ok so you are running it in Stove Temp Auto then. The designation Auto VS Manual is dictated by the igniter switch and in Stove Temp mode that has some bearing on convection fan function. That's why I asked, just to clarify. In the mode you are running in and if you run a reasonable Stove Temp setting and a Medium fan I don't see why the fan is shutting down. With the igniter off I could see that happening. Also in Room Temp Mode I could see that happening ( although not in my house once the temps drop, it's too loose for that).
 
You CAN run the blower at whatever speed you chose while in constant burn / stove temp. The igniter switch just needs to be turned up to auto. The igniter will not keep running as there is already a fire. Room blower will also run IF in constant burn igniter manual BUT you have to be at a minimum of 5 or a slight tick above 75* on the temp dial.

YET = Your Eligible Too Trust me you will become a fan boy. These stoves are flat out awesome. It is going to just take you time to get used to it and learn how to operate it to fit your current needs. It is a process and a learning curve that doesn't happen in 5 days. Triple that and you'll start having the feel for it much better. In my opinion the first ton is a training course.

At first the hopper screwed with me too. Now I can do it drunk and blind folded an not spill a single pellet. I cut the top of the bags with scissors at least half way. The remaining uncut half I pull back on and gather up as a handle of sorts. Pull up, grab the bulk of the bag with the other arm and get the opening into the hopper. Keeps dust down too. Takes some practice but it becomes second nature in a short time.

I mainly always run fan on high because I need a lot of air moved. High in both Room Mode and Constant Mode/ stove temp. I like pushing out as much hot air as possible. Currently I am igniter auto, constant burn mode, feed rate 1, and temp dial at 1 or lowest possible. It is fairly cold here and the house is cozy.

Hope this was helpful. Ask me anything and I will gladly help. Just went thru all of it since Oct 18th so it's fresh on my mind. It does or can become confusing. The dials and switches game that is. At night I set the temp dial where I want it auto igniter, fan high in room temp mode.

Good Luck soon to be fan boy. You might like it so much you want to change your forum name to FanBoy......;)
 
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My fan is also on high in current settings and blowing away. Try these for a quick understanding. You'll see how the blower fan works
 
You CAN run the blower at whatever speed you chose while in constant burn / stove temp. The igniter switch just needs to be turned up to auto. The igniter will not keep running as there is already a fire. Room blower will also run IF in constant burn igniter manual BUT you have to be at a minimum of 5 or a slight tick above 75* on the temp dial.

YET = Your Eligible Too Trust me you will become a fan boy. These stoves are flat out awesome. It is going to just take you time to get used to it and learn how to operate it to fit your current needs. It is a process and a learning curve that doesn't happen in 5 days. Triple that and you'll start having the feel for it much better. In my opinion the first ton is a training course.

At first the hopper screwed with me too. Now I can do it drunk and blind folded an not spill a single pellet. I cut the top of the bags with scissors at least half way. The remaining uncut half I pull back on and gather up as a handle of sorts. Pull up, grab the bulk of the bag with the other arm and get the opening into the hopper. Keeps dust down too. Takes some practice but it becomes second nature in a short time.

I mainly always run fan on high because I need a lot of air moved. High in both Room Mode and Constant Mode/ stove temp. I like pushing out as much hot air as possible. Currently I am igniter auto, constant burn mode, feed rate 1, and temp dial at 1 or lowest possible. It is fairly cold here and the house is cozy.

Hope this was helpful. Ask me anything and I will gladly help. Just went thru all of it since Oct 18th so it's fresh on my mind. It does or can become confusing. The dials and switches game that is. At night I set the temp dial where I want it auto igniter, fan high in room temp mode.

Good Luck soon to be fan boy. You might like it so much you want to change your forum name to FanBoy......;)
Surprised at feed rate #1 your heating at all..
 
Surprised at feed rate #1 your heating the area shown.
Never seen anyone running a Harman claim feed rate 1 actually. Last year someone used 2 though.
 
Unless something radically changes I have no intention on using Stove Temp. I have been reading every post on here about Harmans for over a year before I pulled the trigger. Stove Temp = more pellets. I am only doing this pellet thing to save money. Mine is set at 70 and will probably stay that way. I was not crazy about it yesterday as it kept cycling on and off but today being a lot colder it is just going up and down all by itself maintaining a constant temp and has not shut down.
 
Surprised at feed rate #1 your heating the area shown.
Tony,
It was already up to temp in the house and I do it in the afternoon during the warmest part of the day. I do it to save a few pellet and more or less maintain house temp as long as I can. Today it was done at 12 PM and still there 5 hours later. Dropped 1 degree. Don't do it if it's cold during the day usually 32 or below. It hit mid 40's today. It will be kicked back up tonight whenever inside temp hits 70 or less because the wife will remind me when it does.

There is no way to do this place on those settings in the colder stuff. I wish! I set the temp at 70 to 75 then.
 
Tony,
It was already up to temp in the house and I do it in the afternoon during the warmest part of the day. I do it to save a few pellet and more or less maintain house temp as long as I can. Today it was done at 12 PM and still there 5 hours later. Dropped 1 degree. Don't do it if it's cold during the day usually 32 or below. It hit mid 40's today. It will be kicked back up tonight whenever inside temp hits 70 or less because the wife will remind me when it does.

There is no way to do this place on those settings in the colder stuff. I wish! I set the temp at 70 to 75 then.
I would agree that your saving pellets on feed rate #1.. think my P61 would run awful dirty on that low of a burn but maybe not.
 
Unless something radically changes I have no intention on using Stove Temp. I have been reading every post on here about Harmans for over a year before I pulled the trigger. Stove Temp = more pellets. I am only doing this pellet thing to save money. Mine is set at 70 and will probably stay that way. I was not crazy about it yesterday as it kept cycling on and off but today being a lot colder it is just going up and down all by itself maintaining a constant temp and has not shut down.
It is hard to get the sweet spots when the temps fluctuate so much without a doubt and they will cycle a decent amount in auto. That is why I switched to my current settings today. Low pellet use, low flame rolling all afternoon, and it IS still blowing heat out. I would only do to higher feed stove mode if it was brutally cold and that is counter productive with what I have experienced thus far because when it is colder the stove constantly runs in room temp anyway. The flame and feed will cycle up and down still but rarely go out and reignite.
 
Not much dirtier unless ran there days on end. Mainly just the glass will get a little more ash paste on it.
 
Also LuvMyPellets the colder it is the more pellets it eats no way around it. Sure that's no new news for you. After you play around you will figure it out in time. Plus your already experienced with your older stove so that's more than I had to work with in my humble beginnings. I was scratching my head daily until some kind folk here set me straight. I kept fidgeting with the dials and switches chasing my tail. Then I went to feed rate 4, temp set to 70-75, igniter auto, room temp fan high. After I had that simple concept down as confusing as that was for me at first It gave me baseline to venture from and experiment.

Looks like you already have that down. If it warms up enough during the day try the settings I suggested and see if those help you. Your P61 will not cycle up and down drastically and you should be able to maintain a comfortable temp.
 
When the temperature is at around 30 I put the feed 1 and 1 stove temperature .
When it's colder feed 3 and 3 stove temperature
 
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Golfeur,
Haven't really played with the stove temp mode much in colder weather but will. Again finding the sweet spot for given outside temps. I know running say Feed 3 Stove temp 3 eliminates igniter use and cycling up and down too. Going to give that a shot soon. Your blower isn't blowing then is it? With the 3 & 3 setting are you in auto ignite then for blower air? You would have to be ...... I think. I am still fine tuning myself.
 
Golfeur,
Haven't really played with the stove temp mode much in colder weather but will. Again finding the sweet spot for given outside temps. I know running say Feed 3 Stove temp 3 eliminates igniter use and cycling up and down too. Going to give that a shot soon. Your blower isn't blowing then is it? With the 3 & 3 setting are you in auto ignite then for blower air? You would have to be ...... I think. I am still fine tuning myself.
Room temp/ Manual will eliminate igniter use also
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Oh boy, here we go again with the worlds most misunderstood pellet stove feed rate system. Have at it guys !!
 
Oh boy, here we go again with the worlds most misunderstood pellet stove feed rate system. Have at it guys !!
I know.. I get sucked in every time..but on a good note,
I;m not the one fiddiling around this year.
did all that last season..>>
 
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Ha ha ah ha! First time I understand the Greek being spoken though. Quick learning hill billy here. Dead dog has been kicked so many times another one surely won't hurt. I know I've seen it numerous times in my short stint here.

Thanks Tony but I did know that. And Gulfeur at 3 / 3 would have to be auto ignite for blower. Otherwise, in manual it's flames and radiant heat until you hit 5.
 
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auto settings.
high fan
in my case the fan still works this is the best way for me to distribute heat throughout the house
the P68 is in the basement and I have 3 floors
 
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feed 1 temperature 1 for 3 and 1 too hot in the house when it's 30 degrees outside
and if I put the stove at room temperature stops the fan and the heat remains in the basement.
for maximum performance for me it is necessary that the fan still works
 
I understand very well how the stove and I know that the feed is adjusted according to his need
whether stove temperature or ambient temperature with a feed 3 it's too hot in the house
the only way to keep it always fan running is automatic stove temperature.
the best for me must be the fan still works
 
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