SmokeyTheBear
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F6hawk said:
There are two configurations of this unit one called A on the runtime graph and one called B which has another piece added to the setup. I haven't gone looking for it at this moment.
Running pellet stove on car adapter
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There are two configurations of this unit one called A on the runtime graph and one called B which has another piece added to the setup. I haven't gone looking for it at this moment.
SmokeyTheBear
Minister of Fire
tjnamtiw said:
From the waveform image it isn't a pure sine wave but likely close enough to keep the motors happy.
tjnamtiw said:
Power from a battery to an inverter is probably the "cleanest" power your ever going to get!!
76brian
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Any company can put "Pure" on any product and it really doesn't mean anything. Kinda like "Premium" pellets. There's no industry standard that defines a "pure" sine wave. Bring me 100 different "pure" sine wave products and I'll show you 100 different waveforms on a digital oscilloscope.
It's just marketing. Yes, some definitely have a "cleaner" waveform than others, but unless you can actually see that waveform in the real world, saying "pure" on the box really doesn't mean anything.
It's just marketing. Yes, some definitely have a "cleaner" waveform than others, but unless you can actually see that waveform in the real world, saying "pure" on the box really doesn't mean anything.
76brian
Feeling the Heat
F6hawk said:
Watts 50 100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800 Full Half
BR1500G
+ (1)BR24BPG 6 hrs 40 mins 3 hrs 39 mins 1 hrs 50 mins 1 hrs 11 mins 52 min 40 min 33 min 27 min 23 min 21 min (865 Watts) 48 min (432.5 Watts)
http://www.apc.com/products/runtime_for_extendedruntime.cfm?upsfamily=27
Sorry, forgot to mention the optional extra battery pack (BR24BPG) is about $100 or so. Still a good deal for the run time you get out of it.
While I understand marketing, etc. and the fact that any company can make a claim, especially when there is no accepted standards, you have to start somewhere. I have a Honda inverter genset. It works very well, is rock solid reliable and efficient. There are other great inverter gensets out there, Yamaha is one but there is plenty of crap too. If you look around you will find that the top brands, Honda and Yamaha specifically have a large following based solely on the products ability to deliver the service and performance they are advertised to. I would find it extremely unlikely either of these brands would have a problem running ANY pellet stove. Now a cheap Chinese knockoff inverter genset may have issues, but the price is what sucks most people in, some work, some don't. You pays yo money and takes yo chances....
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SmokeyTheBear
Minister of Fire
rwthomas1 said:
Electronics rarely have trouble with inverters however motors can and do.
Like I said that isn't a pure sine wave (full stop)
It isn't the electronics that get hammered on pellet stoves operating off of an inverter, it is the three shaded pole motors that are already seeing chopped up waveforms.
SmokeyTheBear said:
Well, eventually the power will go out and I will run my Lopi on the Honda and report back. I'm willing to bet the stove there will be no issues. RT
khenault
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Hoverfly said:
Um, Uh. Would most folk assume maximum and peak mean kinda the same thing?
I'm guess that maximum is sustained draw, and peak would be a spike, but that sentence isn't very clear.
Ken-H said:
From reading other brochures, the fan uses about 200 watts, and the igniter about 400... perhaps that is where the peak number comes from?
wow I guess CHEAP foriegn made motors are used in making pellet stoves. a train uses a diesel motor to run the generator to make electric power to motivate itself. non pure sine wave. the Voltage amount is critical and amperes.
SmokeyTheBear
Minister of Fire
DirtyDave said:
Not only are cheap foreign motors actually used they are fed chopped AC to achieve speed control. Chopping the chop leads to motor issues. I usually starts with a slowing down and change in the motor sounds, then progresses to burn out (non bearing).
so would this be safe to run my pellet stove and refrigerator on a surge protector?
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Champion...5yc1vZbx9nZ2bctk3Z2bctk4Z2bctk5Z2bctk6Z2bctk7
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Champion...5yc1vZbx9nZ2bctk3Z2bctk4Z2bctk5Z2bctk6Z2bctk7
briansol
Minister of Fire
Maybe.
smaller gen sets that are not pure sine output have the tendency to fluctuate voltage as loads come on and go off (the gen can't spin up fast enough to keep it smooth). Some stove electronics are sensitive to this.
others aren't.
my stove whined like a dying hyena on a modified sine generator.
your results may vary.
smaller gen sets that are not pure sine output have the tendency to fluctuate voltage as loads come on and go off (the gen can't spin up fast enough to keep it smooth). Some stove electronics are sensitive to this.
others aren't.
my stove whined like a dying hyena on a modified sine generator.
your results may vary.
where I live I may go 3-4 days if power goes out whats my best option so as to not mess up my stove? I am on a budget.
Since you're "on a budget" and you don't want to "mess up" your stove, or fridge, I'd consider this:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ramsond-...erator-SIN1500/203423835?N=5yc1vZbx9nZ1z0z72o
That's a Pure Sine inverter/generator in the same price range as that Champion generator you linked to. If you don't mind switching back and forth between your essential appliances, I think that's likely to be cleaner power than the Champion.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/73538i-Cham...839?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f41ec25b7
I have run my Harman for many hours off this Champion
I have run my Harman for many hours off this Champion
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