So, based on the information I received in my previous thread (https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/introduction-and-old-stove-advice-needed.137426/), we have decided to reline our clay lined 8x12" chimney and upgrade to a current stove for safety and performance.
As it stands I have two quotes for the reline job. The first quote is from the CSIA certified/NCSG member sweep company which did the cleaning and inspection. They are quoting (not itemized) $1989 for an unknown brand of 6" 316SS insulated flex liner installed. However, after speaking with the owner today, I found out they are not quoting any labor for breaking out the tiles and do not plan to break out the tiles. He stated that leaving the clay liner provides an added layer of protection.
The second quote is from the local stove shop which is pretty much the only one in the area and are pretty reputable but I cannot find any certifications for them. In fact they can't even do their own inspections and outsource it to an individual inspector who I cannot find listed with CSIA, NCSG, or NFPA. They are quoting $2165 for a 6" ForeverFlex 316Ti SS insulated liner installed including labor to break out the existing tiles. The cost they show for just the liner kit and materials is $1135.
My question is about breaking out the tiles. I measured the existing chimney this afternoon and it is only 6.5-6.75" wide. Based on the measurements given online an insulated 6" liner will have a total OD of 7.5" after the insulation kit so in my mind there is no way the liner will fit without removing the current tiles. Yet the certified sweep company is saying that they can easily fit an insulated liner without breaking tiles yet the company without any certifications (as far as I can tell) is stating that the tiles must be broken out to reline. In my feeble mind having an insulated SS liner inside the clay liner is an added level of protection but something about it just doesn't add up.
So what is correct? Breaking the tiles or not? Are both companies reaching the same end goal of a safe, up to code chimney but just skinning the cat a different way? Do I just need more quotes at this point?
Another option would be to get the same ForeverFlex liner kit online for $1120 and install myself. I have no issues about doing the install myself but I would want to make sure that I'm doing it right. I know that the insulated liners are 0 clearance to masonry so what is the right way to do it?
As it stands I have two quotes for the reline job. The first quote is from the CSIA certified/NCSG member sweep company which did the cleaning and inspection. They are quoting (not itemized) $1989 for an unknown brand of 6" 316SS insulated flex liner installed. However, after speaking with the owner today, I found out they are not quoting any labor for breaking out the tiles and do not plan to break out the tiles. He stated that leaving the clay liner provides an added layer of protection.
The second quote is from the local stove shop which is pretty much the only one in the area and are pretty reputable but I cannot find any certifications for them. In fact they can't even do their own inspections and outsource it to an individual inspector who I cannot find listed with CSIA, NCSG, or NFPA. They are quoting $2165 for a 6" ForeverFlex 316Ti SS insulated liner installed including labor to break out the existing tiles. The cost they show for just the liner kit and materials is $1135.
My question is about breaking out the tiles. I measured the existing chimney this afternoon and it is only 6.5-6.75" wide. Based on the measurements given online an insulated 6" liner will have a total OD of 7.5" after the insulation kit so in my mind there is no way the liner will fit without removing the current tiles. Yet the certified sweep company is saying that they can easily fit an insulated liner without breaking tiles yet the company without any certifications (as far as I can tell) is stating that the tiles must be broken out to reline. In my feeble mind having an insulated SS liner inside the clay liner is an added level of protection but something about it just doesn't add up.
So what is correct? Breaking the tiles or not? Are both companies reaching the same end goal of a safe, up to code chimney but just skinning the cat a different way? Do I just need more quotes at this point?
Another option would be to get the same ForeverFlex liner kit online for $1120 and install myself. I have no issues about doing the install myself but I would want to make sure that I'm doing it right. I know that the insulated liners are 0 clearance to masonry so what is the right way to do it?
