Englander 25-PDVC exhaust cover

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Mortalis

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I took the exhaust cover out from inside the pellet stove to clean the exhaust port (first time since owning the unit and having it fired up since mid October) and when I put it back into place it doesnt seem to be positioned quite right. It leans toward the front of the inside of the stove. There seems to be a large angled gap along the sides of the cover plate now that is smaller at the firebox and larger toward the top. I have noticed that the stove doesnt seem to putting out as much heat since I have done this but tonight is also the first night that we have had 20 degree (and below) temperatures.

Does the top of the exhaust cover plate fit into any type of stops at the top so that the plate does not lean out and thus covers the exhaust port completely on all sides except the top?
 
If you are on about the plate inside the firebox, on the back of the plate is a lip, this lip sits on / over the edge of the large hole at the top.
 
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I took the exhaust cover out from inside the pellet stove to clean the exhaust port (first time since owning the unit and having it fired up since mid October) and when I put it back into place it doesnt seem to be positioned quite right. It leans toward the front of the inside of the stove. There seems to be a large angled gap along the sides of the cover plate now that is smaller at the firebox and larger toward the top. I have noticed that the stove doesnt seem to putting out as much heat since I have done this but tonight is also the first night that we have had 20 degree (and below) temperatures.

Does the top of the exhaust cover plate fit into any type of stops at the top so that the plate does not lean out and thus covers the exhaust port completely on all sides except the top?
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The cover should fit flush against the back wall of the stove. Why you are loosing heat is because the exhaust is bypassing your heat exchanger by going around your clean out plate, instead of following its intended path and heating the stove. Pick the plate up slightly and hold in the top. Now let the plate drop down. There are steel fingers that hold the plate in place.
 
There is not any thing on the back of that plate that will allow it to hang. This plate is approx 10" wide x 12"-14" tall. It is angled about half half the distance of the height and the angle is such that the top will almost touch the inside of the outer front panel. The plate is anchored at the top of the burn pot and simply stands vertical from there.
 
The bottom of the plate should rest on the 2 tabs on top of the burnpot.if your plate leans forward tap the metal tabs on the burn pot in a bit for a tighter fit.
 
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Sounds normal to me. The plate sits on top of the 2 burn pot fingers and has 1/8 gap at the top of the plate. Mines been like that since new. I have a 6in piece of garden hose hooked up to the end of my shop vac to get into the heat exchanger...works like a charm.
 
When I was looking at the positioning of the plate last night after receiving the initial two replies I tightened the two screw's that hold the burnpot in place and noticed that the plate gap got smaller. So I said to myself, self, maybe the two tabs need to be tighter against the plate? I thought maybe I don't have the burnpot seated correctly but Ken's suggestion makes sense. I just didn't know if making such "crude" adjustments was expected from time to time. I now have a new direction thanks to Ken.
 
Good to hear,The plate on mine was a bit sloppy and after tapping the tabs in a bit made a huge difference in mine
 
I swear the most "mis spelled/ misused word in the English language is "loose"!

Loose= not tight
(Loose bolt)
Lose=to misplace something/lost..
(Lose or losing draft)

Just an observation ive made. My spelling is far from perfect.
 
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My speeeling is pour as well and I'm loze as a goose on tomato juze......;lol;lol
 
Wait so the heat baffle should sit flat on the heat exchanger? Mine tilts forward like a 1/8th of a inch I figured this was normal, because the stove runs perfect.
 
Chrisnow86 said:
Wait so the heat baffle should sit flat on the heat exchanger? Mine tilts forward like a 1/8th of a inch I figured this was normal, because the stove runs perfect.
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You just don't know that your stove isn't running perfect (ly). It may be running well, but it can run better.
 
Harvey Schneider said:
You just don't know that your stove isn't running perfect (ly). It may be running well, but it can run better.
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Clean glass low ash and plenty of heat to keep my 1900 sq ft all cathedral house at 72 even when it dips down to 9* out.. When i put the heat baffle in i can push it back flat up to the the heat exchanger then when you let it go it tips forward and the top of the baffle hits the top lip in the fire box.. I never questioned it because if it's flat on the heat exchanger the lower small hole is covered up.. I figured it was open for a reason to let air pass threw.. And when I was at lowes just for the hell of it I opens the door to a stove on the floor and the baffle was the same exact way as mine
 
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Clean glass low ash and plenty of heat to keep my 1900 sq ft all cathedral house at 72 even when it dips down to 9* out.. When i put the heat baffle in i can push it back flat up to the the heat exchanger then when you let it go it tips forward and the top of the baffle hits the top lip in the fire box.. I never questioned it because if it's flat on the heat exchanger the lower small hole is covered up.. I figured it was open for a reason to let air pass threw..
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If the baffle isn't flat against the back of the fire box, combustion products are bypassing the heat exchanger and heat is being lost out the vent. You are burning more pellets to make up for the heat lost out the vent. It may be good enough but, as I said, It could be running better.
 
Mortalis said:
I took the exhaust cover out from inside the pellet stove to clean the exhaust port (first time since owning the unit and having it fired up since mid October) and when I put it back into place it doesnt seem to be positioned quite right. It leans toward the front of the inside of the stove. There seems to be a large angled gap along the sides of the cover plate now that is smaller at the firebox and larger toward the top. I have noticed that the stove doesnt seem to putting out as much heat since I have done this but tonight is also the first night that we have had 20 degree (and below) temperatures.

Does the top of the exhaust cover plate fit into any type of stops at the top so that the plate does not lean out and thus covers the exhaust port completely on all sides except the top?
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The baffle plate on your stove should NOT sit flush against the back wall of the stove! Older stoves sat flush, 55-trp22, and the PDV, SHP, should lean forward and the top should rest against the front of the stove.
 
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The baffle plate on your stove should NOT sit flush against the back wall of the stove! Older stoves sat flush, your stove is a 55-trp22, that and the PDV, SHP, should lean forward and the top should rest against the front of the stove.
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The OP is talking about his 25PDVC (or so the title of this thread says). I expect that it works the same as mine.
 
This will clarify.
 

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So perhaps we should just tell the OP to read his manual.
 
I apologize for the misleading title.
I have what is pictured in my profile. The Englander 25-PDV.
I did look in my manual and it says nothing about how the plate should sit once installed/re-installed after cleaning. In fact the manual I have shows a parts list that has a smaller rectagular plate that is flat, not bent. Yes, the manual does say 25-PDV on the front of it.
I do know that when I removed the plate it was sitting flush against the back wall. That is why I asked how it shouldbe sitting because when I reinstalled the plate it leaned forward. I also noticed that the room air coming from the top portion of the stove seemed cooler than it was before the cleaning and reinstalation of the plate and thus wondered if I had outside air bypassing the burnpot with the plate not being flush against the back wall.

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Here is an excerpt from the manual I have (this is page 17 in the manual under monthly cleaning)
The large baffle plate (12-5/8" x 9-3/8") that rests above and behind the burn pot (refer to the
section on "Proper Impingement Plate Placement" and the exploded diagram in the rear of this
manual – Illustration 6) should be removed monthly. This can be done by lifting up the plate and
pulling it out. The area behind the plate should then be cleaned thoroughly, and the plate placed back
in the original position.

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Again, my apologies. Page 8 has the description of the "Proper Impingement Plate Placement". Yes, the plate will lean forward and the top of the plate will rest upon the inner side of the front panel.
 
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