Yes I seen your amazon link but was confused if it was Just a cover or 3 prong receptacle with cover, it's about $1. cheaper than the link I posted.
Generator to run pellet stove advice needed
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Papelletman
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Would it really mater if I put the GFI in the basement or upstairs by the stove?Yep, OUTSIDE INLET --> 12/2 WIRE --> INSIDE OUTLET (GFCI in Basement) --> 2 EXTENSION CORDS -->SURGE PROTECTORS
Easy to install with basic wiring and handyman skills - a few hours.
Leviton Inlet cheaper on Amazon <$12
Johnny_Fiv3
Feeling the Heat
I don't mean to sound insulting but you do not have a basic understanding of electricity and should not try this.
Snowy Rivers
Minister of Fire
Relating to the gen set
We ran our Quad 1000 for 3 days on a Coleman 1700 watt unit back in 08
The electronics seemed to do fine.
The blower fan motor did whine a bit, likely due to the power wave being a bit less than perfect sine wave.
Did not seem to hurt anything
The make shift transfer switch set up worries me some.
Just a bit of food for thought.
If you can get any access, I would run a separate line under the house ??? and snake it into the wall.
You can use a reseptical box that has tabs that will flip up and lock behind the sheet rock.
The line (Romex) can be terminated near where your gen set will be and use a good electrical box and wire in a good rubber outdoor rated cord that can remain connected.
If you panel is in the garage, this is perfect, just run the cord out the door, plug it in and go.
The line will have zero connection with your shore power and therefore no worries at all.
The only approved method other than, is to use a regular transfer switch that disconnects the service entrance panel from the Meter and allows the gen set to be connected.
SPENDY
We have a 20 kw diesel gen set wired through a 400 amp 240 volt single phase transfer switch.
I know, this seems excessive.
We have a triple wide manuf home sitting on a daylight basement, and a separate 200 amp service down stairs.
The meter feeds a 400 amp dual disconnect panel that feeds the upstairs and the down stairs.
The 400 amp transfer allows both up and down to be fed off the gen set.
THIS WAS A SPENDY SETUP.. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, it works well.
Keep it safe
Snowy
We ran our Quad 1000 for 3 days on a Coleman 1700 watt unit back in 08
The electronics seemed to do fine.
The blower fan motor did whine a bit, likely due to the power wave being a bit less than perfect sine wave.
Did not seem to hurt anything
The make shift transfer switch set up worries me some.
Just a bit of food for thought.
If you can get any access, I would run a separate line under the house ??? and snake it into the wall.
You can use a reseptical box that has tabs that will flip up and lock behind the sheet rock.
The line (Romex) can be terminated near where your gen set will be and use a good electrical box and wire in a good rubber outdoor rated cord that can remain connected.
If you panel is in the garage, this is perfect, just run the cord out the door, plug it in and go.
The line will have zero connection with your shore power and therefore no worries at all.
The only approved method other than, is to use a regular transfer switch that disconnects the service entrance panel from the Meter and allows the gen set to be connected.
SPENDY
We have a 20 kw diesel gen set wired through a 400 amp 240 volt single phase transfer switch.
I know, this seems excessive.
We have a triple wide manuf home sitting on a daylight basement, and a separate 200 amp service down stairs.
The meter feeds a 400 amp dual disconnect panel that feeds the upstairs and the down stairs.
The 400 amp transfer allows both up and down to be fed off the gen set.
THIS WAS A SPENDY SETUP.. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, it works well.
Keep it safe
Snowy
How about using this and just feed that outlet circuit.. I have one for my furnace.
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Reliance-Controls-TF151W/p1094.html
And as stated above a receptacle box outside and in
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Reliance-Controls-TF151W/p1094.html
And as stated above a receptacle box outside and in
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Wilbur Feral
Minister of Fire
Also not to be insulting, but I agree with DB on this. Get an electrician - a real, licensed one and not some friend's friend who owns a meter and piddles around - and do it right. You don't need to power your whole house, as noted, but you seem to have exceeded your knowledge level on this one. And not to insult any of us, but asking for wiring advice on the pellet stove forum is sort of like asking for medical advice at the grocery store. You might get a good answer, but you've got little guarantee of that because people are just out of their element on these types of questions. And finally, I have a lot of concerns with any system that might backfeed into the utility power. Linemen work hard to get power restored, and should not have to worry about homeowners rigging up systems that are not safe for them. Buy the correct equipment, get someone who knows what they are doing, and just do it right.
Snowy Rivers
Minister of Fire
Great advice.
This was precisely why I suggested a separate stand alone circuit that was not tied to the main panel in any way, but would function as a "Built in" extension cord.
I have seen some Mickey mouse things hooked up, and it can get real scary.
Having worked in the electrical field has given me great respect for such stuff.
Be safe
This was precisely why I suggested a separate stand alone circuit that was not tied to the main panel in any way, but would function as a "Built in" extension cord.
I have seen some Mickey mouse things hooked up, and it can get real scary.
Having worked in the electrical field has given me great respect for such stuff.
Be safe
Outside: 120V NEMA 5-15P Inlet (3-Prong):
Inside: 120V, 15A GFCI Outlet
Just a wall pass-thru. No cords run through open doors or windows. NOT connected to electrical panel (stand-alone). Easy...
Inside: 120V, 15A GFCI Outlet
Just a wall pass-thru. No cords run through open doors or windows. NOT connected to electrical panel (stand-alone). Easy...
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rickhorn, Clever!
consider that GFCI won't work properly without some path to earth ground, a groundiing rod at that location may be advised.
Perhaps you already have a solutioin in place
consider that GFCI won't work properly without some path to earth ground, a groundiing rod at that location may be advised.
Perhaps you already have a solutioin in place
I have a small Yamaha inverter genny. I use a pre-cut spacer in a window. It is notched to allow 2 cords into the house. Easy enough to roll up a towel to put in front of it to add a layer of insulation to keep out any errant gusts of wind.
Doesn't apply to your wanting to wire this into your house but could be helpful for those looking for a simple alternative.
Doesn't apply to your wanting to wire this into your house but could be helpful for those looking for a simple alternative.
Papelletman
Member
This is exactly what I was recommending if the op doesn't want to do a transfer switch.
Yeah ya know I really didn't think of that - I only used a GFI because of basement code, guess a standard duplex would have been just fine since the breaker on the Honda will trip anyway if there is an issue. I'll think about that...
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mik_kane
Feeling the Heat
I am an electrician for over 25 years and that is all you need, a simple pass through. Remember all you need this for is when the power goes out and you don't want to run an extension cord through a window or door. Keep it simple.
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velvetfoot
Minister of Fire
mik_kane
Feeling the Heat
A GFCI will work, the the way that diagram is drawn you still have a ground coming from the panel.
I believe you are confused as to what we were adressing; The pass-through a few post above, not the op's diagram.
mik_kane
Feeling the Heat
I was just going to come in and post this. This used with the inlet plug others have posted is the CORRECT, SAFE and CODE COMPLIANT WAY to accomplish what you want
RAVinMetrowest
New Member
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Did this when I had mom's new furnace and insert installed. Both can be safely gen fed in a pinch.
Electrician had not seen one before.
(I've got a 6 ckt panel at my house - furnace and pellet stove on it)
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