Hi temp silicone as adhesive for harman trim tile.

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Jason845845

Jason845845

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Hello! I finished installing my p43 last week and now I'm looking at the place on the ashpan where there slate tile is. It looks empty and unfinished and I want to do something about it.

Anyways, I looked around at the stock slate tiles and some custom ones and don't want either, so my plan is to take the same porcelain tile from my hearth pad, cut it in half and install it.

I want to make a nice tight fit, so I only get one chance. The ash pan gets pretty freakin hot, so I figured I'd use the same hi temp silicone I sealed my pipe joints with as an adhesive between the tile and stove.
Good idea? Bad Idea? Better idea?

thanks!
 
I think you will be just fine. You would be surprised what all silicone adhesives hold together. Not some Jerry Rigging or anything either. In construction these types or sealants or "glues" are used for many things that weigh more. Big huge mirrors are stuck on walls with similar stuff for example. And you know the high temp will take the heat there.

Just shot mine with my new IR gun and it is 171.5*. My stove is running hot now also. Temps have dropped and it's 76* inside. Can't think of anything at the moment but will shoot it to you if something pops into my brain.
 
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I wouldn't go crazy with the silicone but put a dab on each corner about an inch in both ways. You may want to tape it into place until it cures. Reason behind the dabs is then you could likely pry it out easy enough if you ever change things.

Just need something to hold it vertically. The weight of the tile can rest on the lower lip.
 
bags said:
I think you will be just fine. You would be surprised what all silicone adhesives hold together. Not some Jerry Rigging or anything either. In construction these types or sealants or "glues" are used for many things that weigh more. And you know the high temp will take the heat there.

Just shot mine with my new IR gun and it is 171.5*. My stove is running hot now also. Temps have dropped and it's 76* inside. Can't think of anything at the moment but will shoot it to you if something pops into my brain.
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I use construction adhesive around the house quite a bit and it is great!

Stay tuned for part 2 of this thread..."Help! I want to get glued tile off of ashpan!"
 
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I wouldn't go crazy with the silicone but put a dab on each corner about an inch in both ways. You may want to tape it into place until it cures. Reason behind the dabs is then you could likely pry it out easy enough if you ever change things.
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The plan is to do it on a warm day when I dont really need the stove running, put a few dabs in the corners , lay the ash pan facing up, drop the tile in and put a brick or something on it.
 
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The plan is to do it on a warm day when I dont really need the stove running, put a few dabs in the corners , lay the ash pan facing up, drop the tile in and put a brick or something on it.
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Great plan! Door lifts right off. Silicone comes off of stuff pretty easy too. Save the construction adhesive for wood and sub floors though. There are many, many types of glues and silicones. You have the right thoughts and plan. I was thinking of something along these lines too. Just no time to mess with it now.

From what I remembered you can get two pieces that would fit out of one 12" x 12" tile also. Get some pics up because I think it would catch on and help many. The trim kits are silly money and doing this will help some others out wanting to dress their pigs up.
 
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Meh.

Note: stove is pulled out from wall for cleaning.
 

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Meh.

Note: stove is pulled out from wall for cleaning.
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I'm not a fan of that color but was envisioning something like soapstone, which I think would look awesome (probably an awesome price too. Or, tile the color of your walls (or maybe a couple of shades darker?). However, I think you are onto something and how it looks in a room can be completely different from what it looks like in a close-up shot.
 
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I'm not a fan of that color but was envisioning something like soapstone, which I think would look awesome (probably an awesome price too. Or, tile the color of your walls (or maybe a couple of shades darker?). However, I think you are onto something and how it looks in a room can be completely different from what it looks like in a close-up shot.
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I'm going to go to home depot and check out some things. I only have a little dab of silicone holding it in, so I can experiment
 
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Turn your camera horizontal for pics. For some reason if held vertically pics rotate.
 
bags said:
Turn your camera horizontal for pics. For some reason if held vertically pics rotate.
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Just tilt your head when looking at the pics.
 
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I just used automotive RTV silicone. I put an X bead on the back of the tile and slapped it in place. Been there ever since. Black or Red, doesn't matter, one is rated for around 400-450 deg, the other 350 deg F. That door won''t see higher than either number. The red silicone I had was from Lawson Products, it smelled like no other silicone I ever used but was also slower drying. The Black I have has that slight pickle odor you can get with RTV silicone ( rated to 350 degF.).
 
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Jason845845 said:
Hello! I finished installing my p43 last week and now I'm looking at the place on the ashpan where there slate tile is. It looks empty and unfinished and I want to do something about it.

Anyways, I looked around at the stock slate tiles and some custom ones and don't want either, so my plan is to take the same porcelain tile from my hearth pad, cut it in half and install it.

I want to make a nice tight fit, so I only get one chance. The ash pan gets pretty freakin hot, so I figured I'd use the same hi temp silicone I sealed my pipe joints with as an adhesive between the tile and stove.
Good idea? Bad Idea? Better idea?

thanks!
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I did that on a 45 and it is still good after 5 years.
 
To stay on topic here I have thought about getting some soap stone about 2" or so thick and cutting and polishing a slab for the tops of my stoves. Might be somewhat of a waste of time and energy but it would retain some radiant heat longer after say the stove ran out of pellets vs. the 1/4 of steal. Not sure it would keep much heat any usable length of time really. Maybe a nice slab made of white porcelain to go all out on the commode motif.
 
Jason,
If you wanted a trim frame for the tile one could be easily made. The OEM Harman trim for the ash door is the same aluminum extrusions used for many things. I'd start by looking at hobby and craft shops or picture framing stores. Just a quick point. They are held together in the corners with something similar to window screens. Whatever you found for frame trim material I am sure that the corner clips would be there also.
 
bags said:
To stay on topic here I have thought about getting some soap stone about 2" or so thick and cutting and polishing a slab for the tops of my stoves. Might be somewhat of a waste of time and energy but it would retain some radiant heat longer after say the stove ran out of pellets vs. the 1/4 of steal. Not sure it would keep much heat any usable length of time really. Maybe a nice slab made of white porcelain to go all out on the commode motif.
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Gee, I thought my commode comment was right on topic.....??????

Try'in to inject some humor on a bleak winter day....
 
SidecarFlip said:
Gee, I thought my commode comment was right on topic.....??????

Try'in to inject some humor on a bleak winter day....
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It was. Crappy cold rain, sleet, and ice here with temps dropping again. Yesterday was a heat wave of 36* and this upcoming weekend is supposed to hit the 40's. I'll take it!

I am finished as of earlier this AM. It's boring around here today. Crappy! (pun intended). I just want my commodes to flush and work right and stoves to throw heat. Simple enough. Guess it's time to catch up on paperwork and such. Maybe hump some more 40 lbers. too.
 
Need to do like I do and dump a bunch in 30 gallon trash cans out on the deck so the Missus can keep the stove full.....
 
bags said:
It was. Crappy cold rain, sleet, and ice here with temps dropping again. Yesterday was a heat wave of 36* and this upcoming weekend is supposed to hit the 40's. I'll take it!

I am finished as of earlier this AM. It's boring around here today. Crappy! (pun intended). I just want my commodes to flush and work right and stoves to throw heat. Simple enough. Guess it's time to catch up on paperwork and such. Maybe hump some more 40 lbers. too.
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Hit near 40 this morning here, dropping back now . Raining, supposed to go into the 20's tonight and stay there tomorrow. i think a year ago we around 0 someplace. Today is going to be an under two bag day as I see it now ( from last nights filling to tonights that is)..
 
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Need to do like I do and dump a bunch in 30 gallon trash cans out on the deck so the Missus can keep the stove full.....
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I'm still sucking up from last winter when I was out of town for work ALL winter lucky to get home one night per week and she was wheel barrowing loads out of the barn thru the snow and ice to load the OWB. Then getting 3 kids ready and dropped at school before she went to work to repeat the process in the evening and repeat daily. <>:mad: Last winter was very unkind......

Next winter she is fair game though. She has helped hump some pellets ONCE this year. Don't want to push my luck,,,,,, yet! But I will ASAP.;lol;lol;lol
 
I'm always here...unless I'm not......_g
 
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