Another PE Baffle thread (this ones answers some questions)

Hogwildz said:

Any ideas as to where the baffle serial # is on the baffle? I had mine out in the spring but did not notice a serial #.

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I'm guessing it would be the stove itself serial #.

elkimmeg said:

Per Administrative policy: I have to disclose that for the donor program, I have a direct relationship with a distributor that sells PE stoves. In fact through this account I have procured a
purchase of a PE insert. I also have an account with a hearth supply company where I buy liners class A chimneys directly from a dealer. I also have a Coperfields account.

So that a full disclosure is made. This means almost every stove made I can sell, that my distributors carry PE VC Napolean and just about every chimney product.

In the state of MA the only license required to install stoves is a Contract supervisor's license which I have. IT qualifies me to deal and establish accounts with distributors. That also includes almost all major home appliances. I have a direct account with GE where my orders are dropped shipped. IS that enough of a full disclosure to satisfy the powers that be on the Hearth.

If that is true I really can't discuss any products post

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What does this have to do with the topic Elk?

The admin ask that I fully disclose whenever I speak to a company, which I spoke to the folks at PE today, and preface my involvement.

IT's no so much part of the topic but an agreement with the powers that be on the Hearth. I can speak to customer support to find the locations of the serial Numbers for all our concerned members. I'm just trying to help out fellow hearth members I did not like the dealers response you have to send it back and it takes 3 months. I knew this was BS and would not accept it.

I had to find out if it were true. BTW PE would like to know the name of that dealership who made that statement

gunner this post was to respond to yours No ill intent just trying to seek truth. The next stove I purchase, could be a PE to help make wood heat more affordable (Donner efforts)

Elk,
I do not need nor want you to speak on my behalf. If I had a problem I would take care of it myself....my baffle is fine as you can see. Keep me out of your dealings with stove companies.

This is much to do about nothing.

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BrotherBart said:

Gunner said:

*Side note* Before anyone sings about 700-750 being too hot, I will add that all my temps are taken in the middle just in front of the flue...this is the absolute hottest part of the stove directly above the flameshield which can be seen above the baflle itself. I would be curious if someone (Elk, goose) could slap one of the thermo's directly outside where the cats sits on the back of the stove. With the griddle being 600 in the sweet spot and the cat glowing red and providing most of the heat on the back wall, I wonder how hot the cast gets in that spot.

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These steel stoves actually get the hottest on the sides between the secondary manifolds on the side of the firebox and the firebrick. That little strip is exposed to the full heat in the firebox without anything between it and the fire. That space on the 30-NC regularly runs 150 hotter than the stove top or any other place on the stove. You don't detect it on the Summit because that part of the stove is covered on the outside by the convection shields on the sides.

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You are probably right BB...I can't take a temp there so I dont know. I do know the edges of the top are cooler than the middle.

Would still be interesting to see what the temps are on these cat stoves directly outside were the cat sits.

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I have not taken measurements on my cat area, but I would be surprised if it were particularly hot - remember that the cat is pretty much enclosed within the insulating refractory package that is designed to reflect the heat from the cat combustion (also occurring in the package area) back into the firebox. I'll admit I haven't done much experimenting with thermometer placement, but according to the VC Encore manual, the hottest spot on the stove exterior is supposed to be the griddle. This makes sense to me as the griddle is just one layer of metal, and is exposed directly to the firebox. The sides and the rest of the top are double walled, and the back has the refractory package enclosing most of it internally.

Due to the way my stove is set up, it would be difficult for me to do measurements on the cat area - it would not only be hard to reach w/o getting burned, it would be even harder to see. At least as long as I only have my current dial thermometer, I won't be taking the requested measurements. Sorry...

(BTW, in the spirit of disclosure - I got one donor stove from Elk, which turned out not to be practical to repair, though I'm attempting to sell the parts as a rebuild kit... When the initial donor stove did not work out, I purchased a second used stove from him, at a very good price, and what he paid for it... I don't have any other non-retail connections to any stove manufacturer or distributor)

Gooserider

I have pictures of my baffle. How do you decrease the size of the pictures?

Depends on your platform, I use Krita under Linux-KDE, not sure what those w/ defective platforms (Microsoft) run. You can also use shrinkpictures.com which is an online tool that will do resizing for you, platform independently.

Gooserider

Here are the 3 pictures of the baffle. To the PE Summit owners does this look any different than yours?

to me, it does not look all that bad. I would run it threw the season, then in spring see if it gets any worse. At that
time I would make the decision ,whether I need replace it

guys /gals don't laugh...... but is this why its called a "floating baffle"
fishercat you should email those to PE and have them take a look at it and then maybe we can confirm once and for all if its acceptable or not .......
i believe elk spoke to someone there about it maybe those pics could get forwarded
and anyone else in question take pics and email them
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Fishercat, I can't tell from the photos, but my baffle (super 27) has a row pf ports 90 degrees to the from ones. So a row running Font to back in the center of the baffle. Does your baffle have this? Could this be a way to even out the heat throughout the baffle.

Are those gaps between the baffle and steel support brackets ok?Or is there some kind of gasket around it?

Only gasket at baffle is the rear air intake tube gasket. there is insulation on each side. the baffle is an enclosed box that lays over the intake channel in the back,
Those gaps are normal & fine. the air comes in the baffle in back bottom and out the holes in front , front bottom and center. And also holes is the rear back from what I read.

It appears like there is nothing to worry about unless someone can tell me any different so I'll try and send the pictures to PE and see what they say.

My Summit only has about a month of burning on it and it looks pretty much the same as yours. The baffle doesn't appear to sit firmly on the back flange. I don't think it's from the baffle warping. I think the flange is a bit low. Mine is too. The gaps on the side flanges in the back are on not on mine. I wonder if maybe your baffle isn't seated well. I really don't think there is anything wrong with your stove or with PE baffles in general.

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Fishercat, I can't tell from the photos, but my baffle (super 27) has a row pf ports 90 degrees to the from ones. So a row running Font to back in the center of the baffle. Does your baffle have this? Could this be a way to even out the heat throughout the baffle.

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My Summit has the row of holes running from front-to-back, as well as the rows of holes running from side to side. The holes in my baffle appear to be a bit smaller than the ones in the pic.

mine is warped to. I will take some temp reading with my temp gun and let you know. I even had to weld a crack that developed on the back seam
mark

mark said:

mine is warped to. I will take some temp reading with my temp gun and let you know. I even had to weld a crack that developed on the back seam
mark

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Should be covered under warranty.

Did you contact your dealer?

BrotherBart said:

mark said:

I even had to weld a crack that developed on the back seam

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I am headed to the kitchen to pop some popcorn. It is show-time.

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ROFL!
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Hmmm. eerily quiet on this thread after BrotherBarts statement. LOL

Waiting to here back from mark as to why he welded a piece that has a lifetime warranty.

^ Also curious about that.

There are no dealers within 150 miles. I will sent it in this summer.
mark