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Arti

Arti

Feeling the Heat
Feb 14, 2014
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South West Wisconsin
Stopped by the local pellet stove shop today, it looks like i'm going to need another ton of pellets to get thru the season and wanted to see what they had in stock.

Anyway the manager walked in while we were getting prices and so we chatted for awhile and I mentioned that I was starting to look around for a different pellet Furnace, that's all it took he immediately decided that a new 120,000 btu furnace would be a wise choice for me. I told him that the one that we were using was rated at 50,000 btu's and have not burned it on the high setting yet this year.....
He then decided that he had a nice used trade in that was only? 100,000 btu's...

The brands that he carries are Harman, QuadraFire, and Piazzetta, as far as i'm concerned all good brand's however not real interested in heating my house and the neighbors.
I really want something in the 50,000 btu size, self ignition, multi fuel and easy to clean. Readily available parts would be a plus.

Can't really see any reason to go 2 times larger than I need maybe my thinking is wrong but this is the same dealer that wanted to put a p68 in my family room that is 500 sq ft. He explained to me that it would get the room to 80 degrees in a short time!
While a p68 would certainly heat that area I think that is like using a semi to haul groceries home, that seems to be the mentality in that dealership. ah well end of rant.
 
I agree that going bigger sometimes only means emptying the wallet faster.
 
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I have a 40k btu in a duplex. If its above 35 degrees outside its uncomfortable to run the stove on low, its way too hot. Even at -35 wind chill the living room was 75 degrees at 3/4 auger speed. I have a small place but point being if you go too large on the stove its too much heat even on low...

I would rather have a 20k btu for my place if it existed
 
fixall said:
I have a 40k btu in a duplex. If its above 35 degrees outside its uncomfortable to run the stove on low, its way too hot. Even at -35 wind chill the living room was 75 degrees at 3/4 auger speed. I have a small place but point being if you go too large on the stove its too much heat even on low...

I would rather have a 20k btu for my place if it existed
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You just need the 40,000 BTU stove to cycle on and off when it's warmer out. The 3/4 output on a really cold day is the stoves best efficiency point most likely. You don't really want it to max out the stove on the cold days but to cycle on the warm. I shouldn't say "you want" but just reinforce that it sounds about right what you have now except minus the one feature ( auto ignition apparently on a thermostat or room monitoring probe).
 
Peterfield said:
He's trying to sell you what he has, not what you want.
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Agree. Would find a new dealer. Does not have your best interests in mind - only his, based on your info.
 
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I've worked with 2 Dealers in this area, The one that I am talking about is only 20 miles from me the other one is 80 miles away and really knows the heating business the one that is some distance from me is also very nice to deal with. I think I'll start dealing more with the one farther away. Probably shouldn't have vented so much but sometimes it is really frustrating.
 
Go big go broke.... Seriously you do not want a 100k btu furnace its like driving a semi to the grocery store. Even if it was given to you for free it will cost more to operate and you will pay for it.
 
Arti said:
I've worked with 2 Dealers in this area, The one that I am talking about is only 20 miles from me the other one is 80 miles away and really knows the heating business the one that is some distance from me is also very nice to deal with. I think I'll start dealing more with the one farther away. Probably shouldn't have vented so much but sometimes it is really frustrating.
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I have a dealer 10 miles away and one 50 miles away. When we went shopping for a stove, the closet dealer couldn't give us the time of day and we visited there three times. My wife was thoroughly disgusted so I took her to the next nearest dealer and the salesman there listened to our goals, our questions and our needs. He showed us a few stoves that would fit the bill, what was good or not so good about each and provided us with all the necessary info to make a decision. We bought the stove there and haven't looked back.
 
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Save stressing yourself and deal with the shop further away. I think everyone has a story or two of dealing with a company who has their interests at heart, and not your own.
 
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Yessssss indeeeeed

The entire neighborhood as well.

Over working the stove is never good, and having way too much stove is a waste as well.

Keeping the unit right in the sweet spot is the best choice.


I have never had good luck with dealers.

Years ago, we went to a local dealer and asked if their new (Brand ??) stove would burn our nut shells, and the floor sales staff looked at the bucket of shells and gave us the Deer in the headlights stare.

The factory rep just happened to be there and wandered over to see wasssssup, and commented, " ahhhhh sure, you betcha, nooooooooooooooo problem.

So we dumped the contents of the bucket in the floor model and let it chew on it a while.
Soon the shells were happily falling down the chute and burning fine.

There was a bit of s crowd gathering and getting curious about all this, and soon the store owner was there wanting to know WTF

She asked a few tart questions and then went insane over our experimenting with her floor model.

The factory rep stepped up and made it clear that he was the one that had authorized the test run.

OMG this turned ugly, then got worse.

This was my last time with a dealer.

If they are not trying to sell you what you don't want, they are doing something else annoying.

Not sure how the owner and the rep hashed it all out, as we split.

Good luck

Snowy
 
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That hilarious! I bet they thought you Broke their stove
 
Getting tired of lighting the SCF? I'd love to get a Revolution at some point, but it's not looking good.
 
Snowy Rivers said:
Yessssss indeeeeed

The entire neighborhood as well.

Over working the stove is never good, and having way too much stove is a waste as well.

Keeping the unit right in the sweet spot is the best choice.


I have never had good luck with dealers.

Years ago, we went to a local dealer and asked if their new (Brand ??) stove would burn our nut shells, and the floor sales staff looked at the bucket of shells and gave us the Deer in the headlights stare.

The factory rep just happened to be there and wandered over to see wasssssup, and commented, " ahhhhh sure, you betcha, nooooooooooooooo problem.

So we dumped the contents of the bucket in the floor model and let it chew on it a while.
Soon the shells were happily falling down the chute and burning fine.

There was a bit of s crowd gathering and getting curious about all this, and soon the store owner was there wanting to know WTF

She asked a few tart questions and then went insane over our experimenting with her floor model.

The factory rep stepped up and made it clear that he was the one that had authorized the test run.

OMG this turned ugly, then got worse.

This was my last time with a dealer.

If they are not trying to sell you what you don't want, they are doing something else annoying.

Not sure how the owner and the rep hashed it all out, as we split.

Good luck

Snowy
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AWESOME story! We share a common view of most dealers. My experience with them has been horrible as well. There are good ones, of course, including some here on the forum. They're just an all too rare breed. I would have paid an entrance fee to watch that dealer's little hissy fit of ignorance.
 
I would think that your house is going to require close to the same BTUs every season. In my line of thinking, it's just a case of how long do I want to wait until the space is heated up to the temp I want? The larger the btu output the quicker I heat the space. In regard to having too much heat there isn't a drastic difference with the furnaces running on the lowest setting. Most run on a Tstat and offer auto ignite. I'm not sure you would see much if any fuel consumption by opting for the smaller unit. The space is going to require the exact same BTUs to heat it either way you decide to go.
 
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