Decisions decisions....already ordered a nc30
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Huntindog1
Minister of Fire
I wanted to go with the Englander NC30 but was able to get the Drolet Myriad on sale also.
I dont think you could go wrong with either one. Both are nice stoves.
Like Chuck said the ability to control the stove is a nice feature of mine.
Radiates heat like a beast.
The NC30 has lower emissions EPA rating. I think its able to hold the firebox temps better with the insulated baffle as Ceramic baffle board has insulation properties.
The Drolet Autral and Myriad do not have any insulation in the baffle manifold its made of a heavy stainless so it doesnt hold the heat as well as the stainless conducts the heat
up to the top plate of the stove and radiates it.
The NC30 has a dog house air the Myriad doesnt. No Dog house helps the stove burn longer when loaded North/South.
The dog house air helps on East/West loads.
Best part about both stoves is the 3.0 cu ft firebox size as with both stoves thats really the realistic size of usable space.
Easy to get all night heat and coals left in the morning with a firebox that size.
Both stoves have a 5 year warranty.
Englander needs to work hard to get their stoves into all the Menards stores.
I dont think you could go wrong with either one. Both are nice stoves.
Like Chuck said the ability to control the stove is a nice feature of mine.
Radiates heat like a beast.
The NC30 has lower emissions EPA rating. I think its able to hold the firebox temps better with the insulated baffle as Ceramic baffle board has insulation properties.
The Drolet Autral and Myriad do not have any insulation in the baffle manifold its made of a heavy stainless so it doesnt hold the heat as well as the stainless conducts the heat
up to the top plate of the stove and radiates it.
The NC30 has a dog house air the Myriad doesnt. No Dog house helps the stove burn longer when loaded North/South.
The dog house air helps on East/West loads.
Best part about both stoves is the 3.0 cu ft firebox size as with both stoves thats really the realistic size of usable space.
Easy to get all night heat and coals left in the morning with a firebox that size.
Both stoves have a 5 year warranty.
Englander needs to work hard to get their stoves into all the Menards stores.
Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
BB IF your getting flames into the flue collar and up the stack would you say the air is set too high? I moved my 30 and i can see flames through a screw hole in the flue collar, figured id use it to regulate the air.
Yeah. That flame impingement shield welded in the top of the firebox should be blocking most of that. You must be burning the crap out of that stove.
stoveguy2esw
Minister of Fire
Oops, sorry about that , what you found was "shot" we use a blast machine to shotblast the surface of the stove to clean it up and give a slight texture for the paint to adhere to, ususally that gets sucked out right after the stove comes out of the blaster. apparantly they didnt get it all out when they cleared the shot from the stove.
CaptSpiff
Minister of Fire
Yeah, that's what it looked like. Weird thing is that it was both inside on the brick and rope seal, plus there was enough on the outside ash shelf that I was able to sweep it with my fingers into an envelope. No apparent harm.
How do you guys prevent the shot beads from collecting in the air passages?
stoveguy2esw
Minister of Fire
Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
Im only running about a half inch to 3/4 open usually no farther than even with the hot coal shelf in front. When the draft is good even that much will get me floating up in the 800 deg stovetop range. Ever since i tightened up the baffle boards its running like a bear.
Well, first overnight burn last night with the nc30. Mix of ash and some hickory. Had it going strong for 4-5 hours after work then loaded it down for an all nighter. It was 70 in the shop when I left it around 9:00 pm. When out there this morning around 5:30 to a bed of coals and 60 in there. A lot of coals and most of them golf ball sized and not doing much. Stirred em up and left the door open for thirty minutes to try and burn em down. Then had to throw another couple chunks on and head to work . I guess this isn't what I was expecting. Hope to get it figured out. The progress hybrid in the house(pretty much same insulation as my shop but house is much bigger) lets me awake to a couple coals and mostly fine ash every morning with a house temp of 75-78. Theoretically the building should be easier to heat. (Smaller all open space)I know that cat probably has a lot to do with it, but does it make that big of difference? If so, wow! Burning exact same wood out of the same pile in both. Maybe I'm expecting too much out of the nc30, and I'm sure there's a learning curve but I hope to be able to burn those coals down more without having to mess with it constantly. P.S. The air control on the front of the nc30 was set at about 1/4 of the way open from the closed position overnight. Any ideas? It is this just how they run? I'm not knocking the 30 in any way, it threw off a ton of heat last night while I was out there in the shop....my buddy came over and couldn't believe how hot that little black box was! This is just another learning curve I know, just looking for tips on what this thing likes!
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mopar440_6
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I had a bunch (probably a full 1-2 cups worth) in my NC-30 also. Shop-vac easily took care of it but you might want to take a careful look at your replacement costs for your blasting media...
That sounds pretty similar to my (limited) experience so far with my NC30. I had the stove going last night also, loaded to the gills on a smallish to medium coal bed at about 295*F stovetop around 9pm. Shut it down until the spring of the air control was even with the edge of the coal shelf. Peaked at 627*F and cruised around 550*F until 11:30 or so. Temp started falling off so I opened it back up around midnight and went to bed. Stovetop was 150*F this morning with only a couple little black coals and a bunch of fine ash. Which way N/S or E/W did you have the stove loaded? I know a bunch of the other 30 owners have said that the loading direction can make a huge difference in burn time.
Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
Theres a lot more things in your house producing heat including people. Hot showers ,cooking, clothes dryer, lights ,tv ,ect ect.
Go back to the thread you talked about it in a couple of days ago. Mike Holton the customer service manager at England's responded to you and explained the shot. It is used to rough the steel so the paint holds better.
You responded to him then.
ordered our 30-NC today from Home Depot too... CS gave us 10% off since we have to do a hearth modification to fit it in our home. Wildcatbb, if you get a minute, could you do us a HUGE favor and measure the distance between your front legs of the stove, outside to outside. As we are modifying our hearth, it would help us tremendously. One other really nice thing about buying the stove from the Home Depot, according to Customer Service, IF the stove goes on sale during the return period of 90 days, they will refund you the difference from the sale price and what you paid for it... SO how can you go wrong... Can't wait to get our stove in... Yours is beautiful
Appreciate your measurement if you get a minute.. Thanks.
Appreciate your measurement if you get a minute.. Thanks.
CaptSpiff
Minister of Fire
Hi Brother,
That was actually this tread where I queried the OP, and I really appreciate Mike from ESW jumping in to respond. It shows Mike has an incredible dedication to his product and customer service in general.
brenndatomu
Minister of Fire
Bigsby
Burning Hunk
Coming to this thread late but I'm a Drolet Myriad owner and I'm very please with quality and performance of this stove. Drolet stoves are made by SBI manufacturing in Canada, same company that makes the Osburn brand wood stoves. Take a look at the Osburn 2300 and you'll see they're using the exact same firebox with the same bypass, welded-in stainless-steel baffle, and door latch design used on the Myriad. If 2300 owners here are pleased with the quality of build and performance of their stove they'd be just as pleased with the Myriad I believe. I'd say the 2300 is just a fancier version of the Myraid with a few more bends on the stove top, heat shields on the sides, a little fancier door and ash lip design-these are a few things that come to mind that increase the price of the stove plus the brand name. I got my Myraid for under $700 on sale at Menards which included the variable-speed blower (I use it more than I thought I would) and am happier than a pig in chit.
Still hopin the 30 goes on sale and I get some money refunded, but that myriad looks like a great deal at Menards sale price! Nc30 is a little cleaner burn but there are things I like better on the myriad! Oh well, I'm gonna try and make this thing work. IM still in the learning phase with it but hopefully I learn to love it! If not, I'll craigslist it and try again
Bigsby
Burning Hunk
There's many, many happy nc30 owners out there and I'm sure you'll be one of them too once you get the hang of the stove, and even if you don't get the refund it's still a lot of bang for the buck. Good luck getting her dialed in.
As I say every year, I am the only person I have ever seen here that paid full retail, $1,200 for the 30-NC back in 2006 and have never regretted it. I did pick up a "spare" for $649 delivered a few years ago. Haven't ever hooked it up or had a fire in it.
But I am sure I would have been just as happy with the Drolet. I love big honkin steel stoves.
But I am sure I would have been just as happy with the Drolet. I love big honkin steel stoves.
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