Chimney fire?

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graycatman

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Mar 7, 2010
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Flue temp (digital probe in Selkirk DSP) went from 760 to 1040 in about 2minutes. I was in the kitchen and didn't know it was happening until the alarm went off at 850. I had been cruising on secondaries at 760. Burning only kiln dried (mostly ash) and 3.5 yr hickory and locust. I clean the flue with a Sooteater twice during the season, and once after. I have only ever gotten 1-2 cups of very fine black powder out of my 30' stack. With the 30' stack, my draft is very strong, and even with the flue damper closed all the way I normally have flue temps of 800-830 for a good part of the burn. I don't burn overnight, so no smoldering fires. This load had a couple of pieces of the kiln dried ash up near the top. When the temp shot up, the fire was about the same, very strong secondaries, some blue in there, all front holes on the baffle firing away. Is it possible that the ash shifted and outgassed suddenly, really quickly? The event only lasted about a minute (a very long minute, but no change of pants necessary), then the fire continued as before. No other signs of a possible chimney fire--rumbling, shaking, loud noise. Any one seen similar or have thoughts? Thanks.
 
Hard to say but it doesn't sound like a chimney fire. Was the air control all the way closed when this happened? What year or model Summit is this?
 
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Hard to say but it doesn't sound like a chimney fire. Was the air control all the way closed when this happened? What year or model Summit is this?
Summit A, freestanding, installed 2/10. Stove was closed, flue damper was open a little. Actually, now that you mention it, I had the flue damper all the way closed, then opened it a little right before this episode. The more I think about it, the more it seems like that big piece of kiln dried ash suddenly decided to outgas in an already really hot stove. But open to suggestions.
 
Life is great and then the back of that one big split with a little moisture in it dries out and...

Happens to me most of the time with N/S loads.
 
Gotta ask, was it around one hour after you loaded the stove? I can almost set my watch for when it happens. 55 to 60 minutes after loading.
 
Gotta ask, was it around one hour after you loaded the stove? I can almost set my watch for when it happens. 55 to 60 minutes after loading.
30-40 minutes, but it was a N/S partial load, so sounds like I'm taking after you BB--I'm honored! Yeah, that will teach me to put the big splits up top. That big ash was sitting on top of three smaller hickorys, just biding its time until I left the room.
 
Make sure the splits are fairly tight. The air path through them to the back makes it happen.
 
I don't think you had a chimney fire...just a load that decided to take off for a bit. Rick
 
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I had something similar happen to me last week when I ran a N/S load of very dry oak in my Jotul F600. I almost always load E/W, but I hit a spot in the wood stack with some shorter pieces that would fit N/S, so I thought I would give it a try for a change. I put in three decent size splits N/S and then a couple more on top running E/W. I had a fair size coal bed at the time and the wood took off as soon as I got it loaded. I had an inferno inside the stove in two minutes with the primary air shut completely off. The stove wasn't even 300 F when my wife noticed the SS flex liner glowing red hot just above my T - connector. I had to open the side door wide open for about ten seconds to cool the firebox enough to tame the fire back down.
 
I think what happened may have been the first generation EBT feeding air at the wrong time. When combined with strong draft the stove can take off unexpectedly because it is being fed more air through the boost manifold. Our generation A EBT has been taped off with aluminum tape to prevent unanticipated hot blooms like this. The new generation EBT appears to be a better solution. It only regulates the secondary air, barometrically, not thermostatically.
 
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Another vote for "Not a chimney fire."
 
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