Thelin Parlour Inconsistent Pellet Feed

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Your operating a stove of an extreme mode of operation with a 12 volt motor system. It's pretty on the outside but a pain to maintain. Where are you from? Can possibly get an idea of your operating conditions. We are shooting blind with your stove and its venting installation. If the auger was replaced the fan is probably right behind it.:(
 
And if you happen to be venting it into the wind without the correct termination cap the vacuum system is likely going berserk.
 
I cleaned it exactly as per the Thelin manual in and out, I have a tee/ cleanout at back of stove, pipe goes up the wall on the interior to ceiling height, then elbows out thru a thimble with a http://www.ebay.com/itm/DURAVENT-PE...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3a7aaa4748 on the end, same set up my local stove shop has he reccomended the setup and I installed, I am in the catskill Mts. of NY its on a protected side of the house and it hasn't been all that windy , I've used it on windier days with no issues.
 
So you just used the auto clean and followed the manual, did you inspect the passage ways inside the stove?

Now that auto clean looks like it is based upon the ability of the combustion blower to deposit crud into the vent system which you then vacuum out, is that a fair description?

If it is and bioburner is correct about the likely state of the combustion blower there may still be crud inside the stove.
 
Then since the prior owner replaced the auger motor did you check to make sure it was tightly connected to the auger. I replaced mine late last summer and it lasted about a half ton before it had worked loose, seems I didn't get it tight enough with the recovering busted arm.
 
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So you just used the auto clean and followed the manual, did you inspect the passage ways inside the stove?

Now that auto clean looks like it is based upon the ability of the combustion blower to deposit crud into the vent system which you then vacuum out, is that a fair description?

If it is and bioburner is correct about the likely state of the combustion blower there may still be crud inside the stove.

I did the auto clean but also removed all the panels and cleaned the tubes, vaccumed, remove and cleaned fire pot, I don't think the blower is bad, it works fine until something shuts it off, if you turn the selector knob to blower only setting it always works, even when shut down and red light is on !
 
I did the auto clean but also removed all the panels and cleaned the tubes, vaccumed, remove and cleaned fire pot, I don't think the blower is bad, it works fine until something shuts it off, if you turn the selector knob to blower only setting it always works, even when shut down and red light is on !
I can hear it running, and hear pellets dropping.
 
Don't know how good your humor is, but that's probably the clock just running down.
 
Then you have the vacuum system and the temperature sensors the sensors need cleaning and the areas that they go into as well.

The vacuum system is sensitive to back pressure in the vent system, ash in the works, bad gaskets, and incorrect damper settings.

Remember we cannot see or hear your machine.

ETA: Nor can we tell if your motors are fluctuating as the stove heats up.
 
Check your T-1 sensor, it is screwed into the back of the stove below the feed motor. You need to remove the large shield and then a smaller cover to get to it. Take it out and make sure that it is not plugged up inside, that will cause problems. Also have you noticed the fan speed surging, or slowing way down before the stove goes out? If so you can try new brushes in the fan motor, that will generally get you a year or two before you end up replacing the fan motor.
 
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Check your T-1 sensor, it is screwed into the back of the stove below the feed motor. You need to remove the large shield and then a smaller cover to get to it. Take it out and make sure that it is not plugged up inside, that will cause problems. Also have you noticed the fan speed surging, or slowing way down before the stove goes out? If so you can try new brushes in the fan motor, that will generally get you a year or two before you end up replacing the fan motor.
OK I'll check the sensor, and no the fan just stops abrubtly like someone pulled a plug. Thats good to know, can I remove the fan in place or do I have to move the stove ? Also are the brushes available thru Thelin ??
 
I would check for the brushes at a electric motor repair shop or even a powertool repair shop. The motor shop may be able to do the total repair.
 
Brushes are available through Thelin. The stove needs to be laid on its side to change brushes or replace motor, the motor does not need to be removed to change the brushes. Thelin says turn the stove upside down but it all can be easily done with the stove on its side. If you look on Thelin's website they have very good instructions on how to do these repairs.
 
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OK so I cleaned the T1 sensor, blew it out with air and vaccumed the hole I removed it from, the T2 sensor is really not cleanable, it just sits against the firebox, maybe senses surface heat, but the T2 is right inside the chimney exhaust chamber and whats interesting is its kind of a ceramic tube with a tiny sensor inside and that tube is open to the outside, kinda surprised it doesn't leak any chimney gases, but maybe the flue exhaust is constantly pulling out ? Ok so it ran abt. 5 hours never shut down, then I shut it down for the night, came down this morning, fired it up, ran abt. 10 minutes and shut down ugh ! But the interesting part is, this is the first time I was actually standing next to it when it shut down ! It was on high and the fan just stopped abrubtly and stopped feeding, like someone pulled the plug, so I immediately switched it fan to see if the fan would work, and it worked, then I immediately switched it to high and it started feeding and the fan was on like nothing ever happened, does this mean anything ??? It has now been running for abt. 3 hours non stop, I'm stumped. On another note I sent an e-mail to Thelin's "techincal assistance" e-mail. They told me they don't have technical assistance you need to contact a dealer for service ?? ugh I also ordered the brushes figured I'd swap them out for prevntative maintainence !
 
Sounds like your stove will become a fancy ornament when company refers to a dealer network that's going extinct:(
 
Ya I knew that when I bought it, but it was a $4000 stove and i got it for $500, the parts are still available, they were bought out by another company, but parts will be manufactured for 10 years, so they say, and my local dealer right in town is a Thelin dealer so worst comes to worst at least if I have to call a dealer he is well versed in theses stoves. Any ideas on the quick shut down, then being able to turn it right back on within seconds like a resest, and also the red light did not come on this time.
 
OK so I cleaned the T1 sensor, blew it out with air and vaccumed the hole I removed it from, the T2 sensor is really not cleanable, it just sits against the firebox, maybe senses surface heat, but the T2 is right inside the chimney exhaust chamber and whats interesting is its kind of a ceramic tube with a tiny sensor inside and that tube is open to the outside, kinda surprised it doesn't leak any chimney gases, but maybe the flue exhaust is constantly pulling out ? Ok so it ran abt. 5 hours never shut down, then I shut it down for the night, came down this morning, fired it up, ran abt. 10 minutes and shut down ugh ! But the interesting part is, this is the first time I was actually standing next to it when it shut down ! It was on high and the fan just stopped abrubtly and stopped feeding, like someone pulled the plug, so I immediately switched it fan to see if the fan would work, and it worked, then I immediately switched it to high and it started feeding and the fan was on like nothing ever happened, does this mean anything ??? It has now been running for abt. 3 hours non stop, I'm stumped. On another note I sent an e-mail to Thelin's "techincal assistance" e-mail. They told me they don't have technical assistance you need to contact a dealer for service ?? ugh I also ordered the brushes figured I'd swap them out for prevntative maintainence !

The area you clean on the one that sits against the firebox is on the other side of that wall.

If your combustion "fan" stops you lose vacuum and no more pellet feed and the sensors get bathed in really hot temps and signal its too hot in here or I'm plugged. I want it cooler.

If your convection fan stops the stove sensor that is against the fire box should sense that and shut the stove down as well and signal its too hot in here. I want it cooler.

These pellet stoves are nothing but air flow pumping systems one to create the heat and one to distribute the heated air.

Anything that disrupts the air flow in either system causes the stove to shut down and hopefully present an error signal of some kind.

But the number one cause of a stove shutting down is the direct result of ash in the system. So one starts there if one is not in the room to hear things like the convection motor stopping or the exhaust motor stopping.

The fans also get loaded up with crud and they and their motors need cleaning as well on some stoves (I can't speak to yours) the motors also need periodic lubrication with the proper oil, the motor makers plate on the motor should tell you what if anything should be used. Manuals are useless in determining oiling requirements as what is currently on the stove may not be what was on the stove when it was new(aftermarket or third party replacements).
 
Only going with experience with motors, that sometime bum brushes will be an issue. That stove's fans are one motor. So the stove only has two motors.
I almost bought one as there was a couple of them available for about $700. Probably will find a Avent for the 12 volt ability and get a fist full of reasonable parts for the hopefully Florida home.
 
Florida sounds real good about now..... How about South America?
 
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One thing I know for sure and that there is an Ace Hardware store on Belieze, where exactly I don't know but one of my highschool bud's is the manager of it......

Thought I'd throw in that tid-bit.
 
This is what happens to mine. I'd like to think it were some sensor or fan motor issue, but for me its somehow related to the auger and the type of pellets I use. Without the "right" type of pellets it rarely gets through the startup cycle before it "jams". auger stops turning and then it goes out. It happens without fail with MOST brands of pellets. I found 2 brands (crappy generics from Tractor Co or Home Depot). While I could find them, the stove ran for 4 weeks, nearly a ton of pellets without stopping ONCE. I tried probably 6 other brands and it always "jams" in the first hour, usually doesn't get through startup. In the off-season I replaced the entire feed system (auger & motor). I am unable to determine what is different about the pellets, my best guess is they are smaller and harder, less likely to crumble and "jam" the auger.

This stove is a POS. sorry. When I've had people look at it, they usually never heard of it. Once a guy called his pal at the shop who told him to NOT work on that stove.
 
This is what happens to mine. I'd like to think it were some sensor or fan motor issue, but for me its somehow related to the auger and the type of pellets I use. Without the "right" type of pellets it rarely gets through the startup cycle before it "jams". auger stops turning and then it goes out. It happens without fail with MOST brands of pellets. I found 2 brands (crappy generics from Tractor Co or Home Depot). While I could find them, the stove ran for 4 weeks, nearly a ton of pellets without stopping ONCE. I tried probably 6 other brands and it always "jams" in the first hour, usually doesn't get through startup. In the off-season I replaced the entire feed system (auger & motor). I am unable to determine what is different about the pellets, my best guess is they are smaller and harder, less likely to crumble and "jam" the auger.

This stove is a POS. sorry. When I've had people look at it, they usually never heard of it. Once a guy called his pal at the shop who told him to NOT work on that stove.

Redbill, I am using Tractor Supply pellets, my friend has a $5000 pellet insert that he says does the same thing with certain pellets that he has found are longer than the average, but thats not whats happening, it just stops, it doesnt jam, because when it stops I can immediately turn off the switch and then turn it back on it starts feeding perfect, I really think it's something electrical, it has now been running all day with no issues. I gotta say, to each his own, and I think your issue is worse than mine, but in my opinion the Thelin Parlour and Gnome coolest looking pellet stoves ever manufactured of that traditional style , unless you like the more modern look,, and it's a shame they stopped production. Every person that comes in my house compliments me on the stove. I've had people actually want to buy it off me. I have a Thelin dealer 5 miles from my house whos's been in business a good 20 years, he sells several brands and he said in his opinion the Parlour and Gnome were the best looking stoves he sells and everyone that comes in gravitates to those floor models, he said he really doesn't have many issues with them any worse than the other brands. He said the only issue with Thelin he does have is that they stopped production and he's worried abt. parts availability. This stove keeps my entire 1000 sq. ft. 1st floor at 77 degrees on medium setting and its 5 below here today, I've only had these issues the past few weeks out of a trouble free season thus far. Redbill is your stove a Parlour, what year ? I'm keepin my fingers crossed, so good so far today, I keep thinking mothetr board in my head , they're like 400 bucks ugh !
 
Redbill, I am using Tractor Supply pellets, my friend has a $5000 pellet insert that he says does the same thing with certain pellets that he has found are longer than the average, but thats not whats happening, it just stops, it doesnt jam, because when it stops I can immediately turn off the switch and then turn it back on it starts feeding perfect, I really think it's something electrical, it has now been running all day with no issues. I gotta say, to each his own, and I think your issue is worse than mine, but in my opinion the Thelin Parlour and Gnome coolest looking pellet stoves ever manufactured of that traditional style , unless you like the more modern look,, and it's a shame they stopped production. Every person that comes in my house compliments me on the stove. I've had people actually want to buy it off me. I have a Thelin dealer 5 miles from my house whos's been in business a good 20 years, he sells several brands and he said in his opinion the Parlour and Gnome were the best looking stoves he sells and everyone that comes in gravitates to those floor models, he said he really doesn't have many issues with them any worse than the other brands. He said the only issue with Thelin he does have is that they stopped production and he's worried abt. parts availability. This stove keeps my entire 1000 sq. ft. 1st floor at 77 degrees on medium setting and its 5 below here today, I've only had these issues the past few weeks out of a trouble free season thus far. Redbill is your stove a Parlour, what year ? I'm keepin my fingers crossed, so good so far today, I keep thinking mothetr board in my head , they're like 400 bucks ugh !

First off, I have to ask you...Is your central furnace asthetically pleasing to look at? If you have one and I suspect you do, I'm sure it's not but ya know what, it provides something necessary...heat.

If you buy a stove for heat, who cares how pretty it is, pretty don't keep yopu warm. I suggest next person comes and says they want to buy it, sell it and get something reliable.

I've been in this rodeo over 30 years bow and I've NEVER bought a stove based on asthetics. I look at btu output, reliability and looks dead last.

Obviously the Thielin is a pretty face with an unreliable body. I don't enjoy being cold but maybe you do.
 
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