Why use the stove when i have a wood stove?

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yea wood near free. hows a electric stove 100 percent eff. ? heating coils of metal to red hot ? ive a old cookstove in the grilling shed for summer heat use we cook outdoors a lot in NC or in a cook shed wer you do bar bq .. 100 percent meaning elec makes no waste? my house elec heat is worthless
 
what kinda temps was that my tile in frnt of progress is hot enough to burn my feet and that's 120-145 deg.. tiles on uncoupling mat (Ditra) and on a particle sub floor.. from under house the subfloors not nearly that temp maybe 100 . is this not good?

My floor in front of and to the sides/front corners were from 125-180 depending on the spot. I posted about it in detail in a different thread. But yes that is really hot, but as long as the hearth is good in regards to R value then it isnt an issue. I put the roxul there for piece of mind for the time being until i rebuild my hearth in the spring. Minr is currently at .4 so is the minimum, i would feel more comfortable with it at .8+
 
yea wood near free. hows a electric stove 100 percent eff. ? heating coils of metal to red hot ? .. 100 percent meaning elec makes no waste? my house elec heat is worthless
Electric is the only heating system in which, to a measurable degree, every cent worth of energy used is dissipated in the house. Your gas, propane, oil furnace all send heat up the flue, which is root of efficiency loss.

Now whether 100% efficient electric at $.17/kWh or 80% efficient oil at $3/gal is more cost effective, is another matter. My point was only that you're getting all $.17/kWh of electric into the house as heat, whereas you're really only devoting 80% of each gallon of oil to heating your house... the rest going toward heating the sky.
 
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6% is lost in transmission, which we end up paying for.
 
My electric stove is 100% efficient, in terms of heating my house. My wood stove, only 85% efficient, yet wood is almost free. Interesting subject...

Which do you choose in summer? :p
Just take the heat outside!

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Hydroone charges us over 9% on top of our actual KW usage for the power they lose in transmission, On top of that, what is the energy cost of producing the power?

I do all my cooking and baking, Autumn through Spring, on the PH.

Don't recommend making jam on it in August, unless you are in the mood for a sauna AND no one else will be home for a few days...I speak from experience.

How about posting your recipe for baked beans? Or PM me with it. I'd like to try it.
 
Yes, there are transmission losses, but they're already included in the bill, figured into that $.17/kWh mentioned above. Don't count the losses twice... you're not losing 6% a second time past your meter, and even if you were, it's just heat in your house. Still 100% efficient! ;lol
 
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6% is lost in transmission, which we end up paying for.

That cost is already included in your per kWh rate. The meter is on the house and you will only directly pay for transmission losses between the meter and your point of use. Even those losses will just heat the home.

You also can't consider production efficiencies as extra since those too are part of your rate.
 
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I have a small cast iron pot w/ lid that I've actually baked bread in inside the stove. It's a little bit of effort because you have to waiit until the coals are burnt down enough to make a clear spot on the floor and it can't be too hot. Works very well, though.
 
I usually cook 2 "meals" a day, tasty bite size kibbles with a pumpkin and yogurt sauce.
She loves it.;)
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Yum, just wrapped a porkchop in foil and tossed it on my just-before-overnight-reload coals. That was tasty. I can get used to this.
 
We cook everything, yes I said everything, on or in our wood stove. It saves us a bundle on our power bill and the food cooks in 1/3 of the time and is perfect every time and even tastes better.
The first picture is the first lighting of the stove without the back on it
The second is the stove with the back.
The third is some 2.5 minute pizza.
We are cooking pork sirloin in baked beans right now. Smells good.

The top of the stove does get grease and oil splattered on it but it burns off to clean steel. The top runs at about 500-1100° on average. Sometimes it will glow with a full load when the heat is right under the top. It burns pretty clean and put out a TON of heat and it doesn't burn a ton of wood. It throws off heat about the same as a barrel stove when you want it to, but it doesn't have to cook you out of the house making a meal. This isn't your grandmother's cook stove. I love it.
 

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I made baked beans from scratch yesterday on my soapstone stove. I started using the heavy ceramic container from a crock pot , then switched to a SS pasta pot and it was much better. The combo of soapstone plus ceramic pot was not getting enough heat to bubble. We used to cook occasionally on the old VC since it has a griddle top. Way too messy unless the power is off.

Here's my baked beans recipe for those interested:
3 cups dried beans - variety
Soak overnight in pot of water - not on stove!
Dump water, rinse beans in the morning

In a large SS pot add:
Cup of warm or hot water
3 Tbsp dark brown sugar
3 Tbsp molasses
dump in beans and add enough water to just cover beans
Cover and simmer all morning

At noon:
Chop up 3 onions
cut up half a pound of bacon
2 tsp chopped garlic
Saute (fry lightly) then add to pot of beans
add 3 tsp Worcestershire and 3 Tbsp HP Sauce (BBQ sauce)

Stir beans occasionally and keep at LOW bubble
I do not use salt as there is plenty in the bacon but you may need to add some
You may need to add water if your top is not a tight fit or if it's too soupy, take top off and let it bubble for awhile at the end
If you have a steel or cast stove, I would use a ceramic crock pot or trivet to keep the temps down to low bubble.
Everything is in 3's. I used 3 tsp prepared garlic and it was a bit too much but it would be better to use fresh
 
This morning was some sausage (from our pig we grew last year), browned in a cast iron skillet, two eggs, scrambled, chopped spinach & broccoli, with some monterrey jack on top. Oh and a generous amount of hot sauce. Tough to beat it!
 
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