Noooooooooo blower! They don't need it and it's part of the beauty of these things! Hence why they don't offer one!
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CptJera
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I would DEFINITELY agree with you, Wildcat. It doesn't get much better! That's the kind of report I love to see.I'm hopeful their production schedule is still on track to deliver my ISH by mid to late March, if not sooner. These frigid temps and butt-deep snow have made my little Buck 21 do some serious damage to my stock of seasoned maple, ash, hickory and oak. To generate enough heat to keep the heat pump from powering up, I'm only getting 2 to 3 hour burns on a load. Granted, they're very small loads of 16" log splits as compared to the PH or ISH. Still, I'm a bit worried I may not have enough put up for the remainder of this season. Heading up to my tobacco barn now to bust a few white oak rounds to see if they're anywhere near less than 20%. Y'all wish me luck!
HarvestMan
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OK, I'll play the WS heretic in the room.
Yes, this is great that the company is taking care of it. But, what a PITA that you have to go through a re-install of that monster.
I've got a Fv on order and I'm hoping not to need this kind of service.
Tenn Dave
Minister of Fire
Did Lorin say whether or not you could just fill the void with a gasket and some cement? Would this work as a long term fix or would the warpage continue to expand?
I am rebuilding the hearth any way so it was coming off either way. It is kind of a pain but something I'm willing to do. The gasket material and cement I put in there seems to be doing fine and may be fine for a long time. Another option may be just getting the parts and tearing it down, but Id rather not tear it down that far. If a guy didn't want to move it/tear it apart, I'd say the gasket may be the easiest solution but I have no idea how long it will last. I never seem to go the easiest route!
fire_man
Minister of Fire
I had zero luck long term plugging the warpage with a gasket. I even tried wiring the gasket in place and cementing it, but it always fell out and the gap got worse.
fire_man
Minister of Fire
I have heard first hand that this is a true statement.
Funny how companies that treat both their employees and customers well tend not to be owned by shareholders.
Harvestman, I wouldn't worry at all. The Fireview has been around for a very long time, and has proved to be a dependable, troublefree, much loved stove.
The PH was a new , innovative design when we early purchasers bought it at the offered discounted price, because Woodstock wanted to get a lot of stoves into homes quickly, functioning in varied set ups, so they could quickly learn how the stove heated in the real world, and whether any modifications were indicated once the stove was burning in varied situations. They found some issues, and addressed them quickly. Their goal is always to produce an excellent product. Can't ask for more.
Again, you can be confident you will enjoy your Fireview.
The PH was a new , innovative design when we early purchasers bought it at the offered discounted price, because Woodstock wanted to get a lot of stoves into homes quickly, functioning in varied set ups, so they could quickly learn how the stove heated in the real world, and whether any modifications were indicated once the stove was burning in varied situations. They found some issues, and addressed them quickly. Their goal is always to produce an excellent product. Can't ask for more.
Again, you can be confident you will enjoy your Fireview.
OhioBurner©
Minister of Fire
Yes great customer service but would be far better if the stove hadn't failed in the first place. Besides the costumers inconvenience, I'm sure they loose a lot of money replacing parts at no cost, taking back stoves in their no questions asked policy, and even replacing entire stoves. But this keeps customers happy and business seems good, so hopefully WS will be in business for a long time!
I'm sure the complaint list is waaaay shorter than the amount of satisfied customers.....and that being said, the way they handle those few complaints is the reason they will continue to prosper in my opinion. As with any new model, whether it's a car, truck, bicycle or a wood stove there are bound to be a few unforeseen problems with a brand new lineup, and as a consumer I understand this. How those hiccups are handled is all that really matters .....
Englander has seemed to be awesome as well. Just bought two, one for my shop and my buddy paid for one to go in his. We ordered our fans , they came in the mail and his had no fins on it. It was like they just forgot it when it was assembled, just a lonely shaft in the blower housing. No questions asked and another appeared in a couple days! That's great service as well! Just a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing that if or when something happens, help is just a call away!
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We knew we were getting an early production stove that might well have subsequent modifications or improvements incorporated into our stoves, Ohioburner.
We wanted those stoves for that burning season, and were fortunate that Woodstock made the tremendous effort necessary to get them out for 2011-2012.
My Progress Hybrid made a huge difference in my life that winter.
We wanted those stoves for that burning season, and were fortunate that Woodstock made the tremendous effort necessary to get them out for 2011-2012.
My Progress Hybrid made a huge difference in my life that winter.
I see absolutely no reason why a steel stove wouldn't benefit from a blower *option*. While every installation may not need a blower I need one to help move heat around my layout. I've had two stoves in my house(Lopi Endeavor and the Princess) and both stoves heated the house far better with the blower in use. I can heat the place without the blower but the stove needs to be run hotter/harder to do the same thing. A house without an open layout or when the stove is installed deeper into a fireplace will benefit from a blower option.
I place a fan to the side of the stove. It aims in front of the glass towards my staircase. The only time I use that is during the coaling stage.
I rake the coals to the center, Crack the ash pan door just a hair, and close the primary to 1/4 or less. I get some more light secondary activity. Then I turn the fan on. This heated my house from 5:30 pm (35 outside) to 10:00 pm (27 outside).
My inside temp was 72 degrees. Plenty of coals for a reload. This load of wood was put in at 6:30 am. It was not a full load maybe a little over 3/4 full.
I rake the coals to the center, Crack the ash pan door just a hair, and close the primary to 1/4 or less. I get some more light secondary activity. Then I turn the fan on. This heated my house from 5:30 pm (35 outside) to 10:00 pm (27 outside).
My inside temp was 72 degrees. Plenty of coals for a reload. This load of wood was put in at 6:30 am. It was not a full load maybe a little over 3/4 full.
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I personally don't like the idea of cooling a stove off by blowing air over it. The IS throws a ton of heat out the front. So I just redirect the air that the stove has already released into the room. This way I don't have to worry about robbing the stove of its efficiency.
alforit
Feeling the Heat
My sister has a PH and she has to use a fan to circulate the heat in her house.........She has high vaulted ceilings.
She aims it on the side of the stove also and it works perfect for her.
osagebow
Minister of Fire
I tend to agree, I needed a blower with my previous pellet stove and my underpowered VG stove. From my limited experience this stove seems to lose the possibility of a blower because of the the dual vent options. Luckily, my floor plan allows me to heat from the basement with the big IS easily.
The Englander pellet stove was sufficient in most temps here in VA. Great unit.
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