Boycott Wood Pellets this Year

Dont load directly from the bags. Either scoop the pellets out or transfer them into a bucket for easy pouring.

Pellet-King said:

.0699 here, live free or die, there is screwin you over....you pay no tax but get (bleeped) other way's

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Wow... that seems pretty low... Are you looking at what your bill says is the cost for a KWH,
or are you dividing what your total bill is by the number of KWH..
My son lives in CT, he pays a lot more than that...

I don't care what the utility company says the rate is.
I look at how much I write the check out for, and how many KWH I used... that is the REAL cost...
You have to figure in all of those fees, taxes, surcharges etc... as the real cost.
We pay .19, yes. But that includes all the crap on the bill we don't understand..

Dan

Pellet-King said:

.0699 here, live free or die, there is screwin you over....you pay no tax but get (bleeped) other way's

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Total Bill/killowatt hrs used. Id be shocked if you were paying .0699 at the end of the day. I suspect you are in the .16-18c range per kw/hr. Theres only a few places in the country that are that cheap think giant dam in your neighborhood.

moey said:

Total Bill/killowatt hrs used. Id be shocked if you were paying .0699 at the end of the day. I suspect you are in the .16-18c range per kw/hr. Theres only a few places in the country that are that cheap think giant dam in your neighborhood.

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Giant dam in my neighborhood (close anyway) and we still pay about 9 cents all in. Those low .0699 rates per KWH are only to fool the general public into thinking their power is cheap.

I can see why people are taken back. I called my usual pellet dealer and the barefoots i got for 260 last year are 285 now. I figured they would go up, but with the lower gas prices assumed the increase wouldn't be as steep.

moey said:

Why buy a bigger house then if you cant afford to heat all of it? You could just live in your bedroom with a space heater then and save even more money.

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Unfortunately, this is what a lot of poor people do during the winter. I'd rather do it around a wood stove in the living room than a electric space heater in the bedoroom!

I think (may change mind) I puchased my last ton last year. I've got a 200,000 btu wood burner in the basement, 500 gallons of propane and one ton of left over Sommersets from last season so I'm good as far as I know. Take that greedy pellet industry! Never thought I'd buy propane again....never say never, right?

Strange, oil went down and pellets up. Why? $200 less to fill tank this year.

slls said:

Strange, oil went down and pellets up. Why? $200 less to fill tank this year.

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Demand. Demand for pellets is higher than it's ever been on the world market.

slls said:

Strange, oil went down and pellets up. Why? $200 less to fill tank this year.

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The major cost in pellet production is electricity most electric rates are up or flat. Distribution cost (oil) is a much smaller %.

Although I wont claim the price increase is entirely from that I know as much as everyone else here.

My firewood still costs the same price. That price is a few very enjoyable days in the woods, each year.

Pellet-King said:

.0699 here, live free or die, there is screwin you over....you pay no tax but get (bleeped) other way's

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Is that the electricity price including delivery? We pay about 7.5 cents per kWh not much different than you, but the power utility tacks on another 7 cents for delivery, so 14.5 cents in total. The other person's 19 cents a kWh may have included the delivery charge.

My delivery /maintenance/rental/ and whatever else is on the bill or hidden - exceeds or matches my base charges for the electric power or NG gas. Some months the administration fees are 2-3 times the base cost of either item. Although both are administered by the same company I am billed separate administration fees for each item.

Not a pellet burner but heating oil here in CT if you live close to the New Haven terminal is $2.20 a gallon. I filled the tank for just under $2 a gallon when oil hit a low back in Jan. Many friends here in CT that had pellet stoves found it cheaper and easier to just turn up the t-stat this past winter. Save the pellets for when heating oil is $4 a gallon like last winter...

chken said:

Is that the electricity price including delivery? We pay about 7.5 cents per kWh not much different than you, but the power utility tacks on another 7 cents for delivery, so 14.5 cents in total. The other person's 19 cents a kWh may have included the delivery charge.

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Then you pay 14.5 cents. Why discuss 7.5 cents, at all?

These single-cent "price to compare" numbers folks see on their bill seem to have people thinking that's what they pay, when it's usually only half the bill. Not sure I really care what the fractional breakdown is, other than noting that conservation is only half-effective in lowering my bill.

Maybe the lesson learned here is that the best way to lower your rate is use more. Then those admin fees are amortized over a larger base kWh. [emoji12]

Guess I am the unfortunate one, just bought 2 ton of Turman for $260.00 a ton, we still enjoy the nice radiant heat that the pellet stove gives off

Jeff

UpStateNY said:

Jeff, that loud noise your pellet stove is making, blowing hot air into the room, means it is not radiant heat.

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My englander stove gave off very nice radiant heat with the fire being so close to the glass and the whole stove itself got nice and warm. My Harman not so much.

Pellet-King said:

.0699 here, live free or die, there is screwin you over....you pay no tax but get (bleeped) other way's

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Um CT has one of the highest prices for electricity in the nation, look at your bill eversource charges a $99 delivery charge. Your base bill is over $100, I would not focus on the kilowatt charge.

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_6_a

Only Hawaii is higher than Ct

Just a note, long term I think pellets and wood stoves provide a better type of heat than oil, gas, and electricity, that's why we like them.

I have a hard time focusing on the cost, it could make you head spin. I'm not sure how much money I save if any burning wood. There are chainsaws, woodsheds,tractors,,,etc. I do know that I am removing all the dead ash trees from my property and my first floor is ridiculously warm.

People don't like to pay for cost of living expenses it strikes a nerve in all of us. I bought my first house in 97 oil was 1.06 a gallon, natural gas was way more expensive especially when you factor in the conversion. I guess my point is don't focus on short term events. I don't think oil will be this cheap long term, so enjoy the 80 degree room the pellet stove is in.

I checked one of my electric bills the other day and the total was $90.00, half of which was made up of transmission costs, universal fees, federal this, state that, etc.

We bought our stove to supplement the heating cost of oil in 2012 . Heats the entire home. Kind of tough to go back now

Enzo's Dad said:

.... I bought my first house in 97 oil was 1.06 a gallon.....

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You just made a ton of us feel really old... The ones that remember when oil was less than 20 cents,....

Dan

Pete Zahria said:

You just made a ton of us feel really old... The ones that remember when oil was less than 20 cents,....

Dan

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I feel better I think it was around .55 when I started buying my own in 1984