Makes an interesting read, even though you probably won't understand it
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...n-just-15-years-scientists-say/2751436649025/
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...n-just-15-years-scientists-say/2751436649025/
mini Ice Age coming in 15 years - fill up that wood shed
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Swedishchef
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Knots
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Gonna be interesting to see the results of the model forecasting for the next two or three years. If they stay consistent new long johns will certainly be in order.
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johneh
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johneh
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Knots
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It's all subject to change anyway...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
At the Church Family of Shakers in upstate New York, near New Lebanon, Nicholas Bennet wrote in May 1816, "all was froze" and the hills were "barren like winter." Temperatures went below freezing almost every day in May. The ground froze solid on June 9. On June 12, the Shakers had to replant crops destroyed by the cold. On July 7, it was so cold, everything had stopped growing. The Berkshire Hills had frost again on August 23, as did much of the upper northeast.
"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." Will Durant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
At the Church Family of Shakers in upstate New York, near New Lebanon, Nicholas Bennet wrote in May 1816, "all was froze" and the hills were "barren like winter." Temperatures went below freezing almost every day in May. The ground froze solid on June 9. On June 12, the Shakers had to replant crops destroyed by the cold. On July 7, it was so cold, everything had stopped growing. The Berkshire Hills had frost again on August 23, as did much of the upper northeast.
"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." Will Durant
Ashful
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Best post I've seen in a while. The climate has been changing for billions of years, can't really expect that to stop on account of us.
The eruption of a giant volcano or solar changes are far different from global warming. A major volcano will have effects lasting a few years at most. A mini Ice Age may last only a few generations. Global warming is the unrelenting warming of the entire Earth caused by humans. A mini Ice Age will probably cause much greater harm because people will ridicule the global warming forecast, even more than they do now. On the far side of a mini Ice Age, the results will be catastrophic rather than the very gradual changes we are seeing now. I won't be alive to deal with it but my children and grand children will. It's not something I am proud of as a part of the cause for the past 60 yrs.
velvetfoot
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Wildo
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ma nature is in charge and will let us know whenever we get full of ourselves and we start blowing too much hot air.
Really this article is good news for all of us diehard carbon liberators. Pyromaniacs rejoice
Grisu
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The "Global Cooling" scare in the 70ies has long been debunked as the overactive imagination of some journalists who took a few debatable studies to get a big story.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/cruz-on-the-global-cooling-myth-and-galileo/
Very similar to the "Vaccination causes autism" nonsense. Time will tell if the one study suggesting there will be a cooling period in 15 years really will come true. I have my doubts until other groups support their findings. Btw. The "lead author" is a Professor of Mathematics. Apparently, her peers did not think her research in astrophysics warranted a faculty position in that area. https://www.northumbria.ac.uk/about-us/our-staff/z/professor-valentina-zharkova/
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Your post has nothing to do with Global Warming.
Try reading this:
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Try reading this:
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
mass_burner
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My guess is that it will mean much more erratic weather patterns. The problem with this topic is that the media seem to require 'disaster' headlines to get attention. The reality is always less dramatic and a slight global cooling or a temporary halt to global warming is more likely. As I posted, the real catastrophe will be at the end of the mini cooling cycle, when warming is vastly accelerated.
If we see the California drought expand to the mid West and a return of the dirty 30's dust bowl, I would predict a war scenario. People do not like it when there is no affordable food. It's pretty shocking to see the proliferation of survivalist forums these days. My best friend from high school ended up being a senior gov't official and he stock piles months worth of freeze dried food. The scary part is that he is very smart, very pragmatic and has inside knowledge of what is happening in the world. The rest of us are simply peons destined to be vanquished.
Here's a quick example: On 9/11 when we got home from work, I gave my wife a bunch of cash and sent her and the kids to the grocery store to buy a month's worth of non perishable food and bottled water. At that moment, no one knew whether this was the start of a war or what the cause was. I expected her to encounter a mob scene just like you see on the news before a hurricane hits. She was back in 30 min. The store was deserted. Everyone was watching TV. Few people take the time to consider the consequences of what is happening, they watch the news and then react with the rest of the mob. Always better to be prepared.
If we see the California drought expand to the mid West and a return of the dirty 30's dust bowl, I would predict a war scenario. People do not like it when there is no affordable food. It's pretty shocking to see the proliferation of survivalist forums these days. My best friend from high school ended up being a senior gov't official and he stock piles months worth of freeze dried food. The scary part is that he is very smart, very pragmatic and has inside knowledge of what is happening in the world. The rest of us are simply peons destined to be vanquished.
Here's a quick example: On 9/11 when we got home from work, I gave my wife a bunch of cash and sent her and the kids to the grocery store to buy a month's worth of non perishable food and bottled water. At that moment, no one knew whether this was the start of a war or what the cause was. I expected her to encounter a mob scene just like you see on the news before a hurricane hits. She was back in 30 min. The store was deserted. Everyone was watching TV. Few people take the time to consider the consequences of what is happening, they watch the news and then react with the rest of the mob. Always better to be prepared.
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Adios Pantalones
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I hope that any reduction in solar activity will give us a little time to get our crap together on climate change.
semipro
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Interesting thought.
We've already been given some reprieve with the "Global Dimming" that's increasingly occurring as a result of our contributions to the the upper atmosphere.
kennyp2339
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Time to get cracking on my wood sheds - gonna need to keep a steady 3 year supply at all times, I may consider ordering a back up door gasket, cat, and cat gasket. Im going to be ready lol
Swedishchef
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Remember where I live (tons of snow and cold..I had snow on the ground for 6 months last winter..). Today a friend of mine calls and tells me he is leaving on vacation Friday. I say "when are you coming back" He says " in the fall...3 weeks!" lol
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velvetfoot
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They say the best time to work on the lawn is the fall. I might shoot for mid-August on that, even here.
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