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KenLockett

KenLockett

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Dec 27, 2011
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Ordered 150' of Samson Pro-Master 3 Strand 1/2" rigging rope. Heard about the exceptional customer service from TreeStuff.com and when order didn't show shipped in two days I called and was told back order. Asked when the Pro-Master was coming in and she put me on hold. Came back and said for your trouble choose any rope as a replacement and we will get it right out. Went with the Tree-Master that is just a bit stiffer but 100% Polyester as opposed Poly Olefin middle in Pro-Master. They had a free shipping coupon on their website and the Tree Master is twice the price of the Pro-Master so think I made out and can vouch for excellent customer service. 150' of Tree-Master 1/2" 3 strand with free shipping for $51. Any thoughts on Tree-Master versus Pro-Master? By the way intend to use it with my Maasdam Rope Power Puller.
 
Can't help you about your ropes, but just wanted to chime in I am in the same boat. I want to get me some good rope to use to help pull down trees with a come-a-long. I am thinking about going with the amsteel blue 1/2 inch with loops on each end to connect with chain hooks. It is mainly to cut down on the weight that a long length of chain has. Amsteel blue is supposed to be stronger than cable and not stretch. I can only afford 50ft I think and that will be $150 with loops sewed on each end. Haven't ordered it yet, good luck with yours man.
 
you can take 3 strand rigging (Pro-Master or Tree-Master) and braid loops on either end. In the loops you can place slip eye hooks or snap hooks. I have a 6 foot section of chain that I attach to tree on one end then hook with one end of rope. Other end of rope can be hooked to 6' tree saver with loops. I use Maasdam rope puller in between to draw load of tree. Maasdam $40, Tree-Master Rope $51, Chain $6 (Home Depot odd leftover they discounted), Tree Saver Strap $13. All in all not bad price for the ability to directional fell and drag trees/logs now. Also, check out rope puller versus cable come-along. Unlimited rope length with puller versus limited length of cable puller/come along. Good luck. If you do go to the Tree Stuff website for Amsteel blue rope check the FAQ section as there is a online code for everyday free shipping (standard ground) or an everyday 5% off online code.
 
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Can't help you about your ropes, but just wanted to chime in I am in the same boat. I want to get me some good rope to use to help pull down trees with a come-a-long. I am thinking about going with the amsteel blue 1/2 inch with loops on each end to connect with chain hooks. It is mainly to cut down on the weight that a long length of chain has. Amsteel blue is supposed to be stronger than cable and not stretch. I can only afford 50ft I think and that will be $150 with loops sewed on each end. Haven't ordered it yet, good luck with yours man.
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Having recently acquired a kit of rigging stuff (thanks again, Craigslist!), I'd rethink your plan.

A loop on one end is fine, but I think having them on both ends would rarely be useful unless you're always anchoring to a truck or ATV. If you want to be able to use fixed objects (e.g. other trees) as anchor points then you'll be tying knots at appropriate locations anyhow, and in that case you may as well tie knots at both ends.

Also, 1/2" Amsteel is way overkill for typical tree work, and 50 feet will often be insufficient length. For the same money you could get 100' or more of smaller/less expensive rope that would do the job quite nicely.
 
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I've been using Promaster for years as a tag line when climbing and I like it b/c its cheap, knots easy, and has a nice hand. Tree Master has a bit higher breaking strength but looks pretty similar. And they both hold up to abuse well.
 
Hickorynut said:
Can't help you about your ropes, but just wanted to chime in I am in the same boat. I want to get me some good rope to use to help pull down trees with a come-a-long. I am thinking about going with the amsteel blue 1/2 inch with loops on each end to connect with chain hooks. It is mainly to cut down on the weight that a long length of chain has. Amsteel blue is supposed to be stronger than cable and not stretch. I can only afford 50ft I think and that will be $150 with loops sewed on each end. Haven't ordered it yet, good luck with yours man.
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I've got about a mile (literally) of Amsteel Blue on my racing boat. Good Dyneema single braid, very light, 34,000 lb. breaking strength at 1/2" diameter. Low stretch, and decent abrasion resistance for a single-braid line. Check out APS Ltd. for good pricing, particularly if you want their rigging shop to make loops for you.

Also check Yale's Vectrus, same material with a slightly different braid. It's usually a little cheaper than Amsteel, and is basically the same line, with very similar rated performance. Be sure you note "average" vs. "max" when comparing breaking and working load strengths, for a fair comparison.

Dyneema single braids are not super UV stable. They fade out, and fatigue under constant sunlight. More of an issue with boat rigging, than pulling trees, tho.
 
Creekside said:
I've been using Promaster for years as a tag line when climbing and I like it b/c its cheap, knots easy, and has a nice hand. Tree Master has a bit higher breaking strength but looks pretty similar. And they both hold up to abuse well.
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The Tree Master braids turned out to be quite stiff while I was braiding the loop on one end. Also the individual strands unraveled much easier than I thought they would. Anyhow, got the loop braiding complete and am excited to try the rope. A bit stiffer than the 20' rope that came with the Maasdam rope puller. Also, didn't realize the logistics of handling 150' of rope but am using an empty milk crate to store the rope and puller. Contemplated cutting down to 100' length and 50' length but the minute I do that sure I will need 120'!!!
 
It should break in with some use. I store most of my rope in rope bags but an old duffel or backpack can work the same.
 
Ashful said:
I've got about a mile (literally) of Amsteel Blue on my racing boat. Good Dyneema single braid, very light, 34,000 lb. breaking strength at 1/2" diameter. Low stretch, and decent abrasion resistance for a single-braid line. Check out APS Ltd. for good pricing, particularly if you want their rigging shop to make loops for you.

Also check Yale's Vectrus, same material with a slightly different braid. It's usually a little cheaper than Amsteel, and is basically the same line, with very similar rated performance. Be sure you note "average" vs. "max" when comparing breaking and working load strengths, for a fair comparison.

Dyneema single braids are not super UV stable. They fade out, and fatigue under constant sunlight. More of an issue with boat rigging, than pulling trees, tho.
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Thanks Ashful for posting that. I am really thinking about getting me some, if overkill for just pulling trees, I am sure I can find other uses for it also. :)
 
APS is running a 20% off sale right now, but it ends tonight. If you're looking to buy some Amsteel Blue, you might want to jump on it today.
 
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