30NC air inlet burned out

Mountaineer · Feb 14, 2015

Hey all, we are on our 3rd or 4th winter with this stove . The stove usually burns 24-7 from October thru early April . The air inlet piece in the front bottom of the firebox has seemed to burned out. The side of the inlet facing the back of the box and part of the top of it just crumbled and letting all the ash fall in there now and I have to keep cleaning it out with every loading. I think it was originally just a small hole on the back side the air shot out of.
I wonder if any of you have had this happen. I did a search and couldn't find anything.
This Spring I was planning on replacing the boards, tubes and re gasket the door. I hope I can get this piece too, although I couldn't find it on their site.
I will call them on Monday and see what's up and keep you guys updated.

Highbeam · Feb 14, 2015

They call that the doghouse. It appears to bolt on so should be easy to replace if those bolts come out nicely.

Mountaineer · Feb 14, 2015

O good

BrotherBart · Feb 14, 2015

Easy to change out. Held down with two sheet metal screws. First one I have heard of getting burned through. The cool air flowing through it into the fire should keep it from getting too hot.

Give ESW a call.

Hoozie · Feb 14, 2015

Got a picture of it? I can't imagine that getting hot enough to disassociate :eek:

Hogwildz · Feb 14, 2015

When you swap it out, do yourself a favor and use neverseize on the new screws, just in case you need to do it again.

Mountaineer · Feb 14, 2015

Is there a picture size limit ? I can upload a pic ( have to take one when the fire dies down ) but I am not a member on any photo sharing sites nor do I have any software/ app to downsize pics. If someone more tech savvy than I can let me know what to do, I will try my best.

BobUrban · Feb 14, 2015

Just load it up - Mods will resize if necessary and there is a "thumbnail" option. Welcome to the forum BTW

For the record this is a first about the doghouse burning up and my best guess is you got one fabbed from bunk steel - unfortunate but sometimes steel is of less quality than others. That, or you live on the ocean and have heavily salted air coming through your stove.

Oldman47 · Feb 14, 2015

Just join photobucket, tiny pics or one of the others. Use their instructions to resize the stored picture to say 800x600. That size is accepted most anywhere these days. Once you have a picture in one of those places just copy the IMG address they provide for it and paste it wherever you want the picture to show up. I find it lets me share the same picture in an e-mail or almost any forum. I am on 3 motorcycle forums and 2 wood burning forums so I do not like to constantly be uploading pictures. This is a picture of one of my former bikes done just as I described it.

Sorry but no stove pictures yet.

Woody Stover · Feb 14, 2015

That damage is not surprising, given that the stove was run wide open. I'd like to see more pics of the innards of the stove.

blacktail · Feb 14, 2015

Innards of the stove and the chimney. 4 years of running it wide open. Did the pipe ever glow?

Highbeam · Feb 15, 2015

I run most need hard but not wide open. The doghouse seems to always feel sorta scaly on the fireside. I feel the hole to be sure it isn't blocked. Lots of heat right there up front.

Mountaineer · Sep 28, 2015

Pic inbound/ thread revival
Just getting around to getting this thing changed out .

Pics as requested. Yea, it needs shoveled out.

Z33 · Sep 28, 2015

Doesnt look too bad inside from what I had expected but you do have some issues starting with the re burn tubes. The ash being left in the stove for long periods of time is most of the problem. That ash combines with moisture from the air and creates a caustic lye that eats away at the components of the stove.

When you are done this year shovel it out, take a shop vac to the inside and give every thing a good coat of WD-40 to keep this to a minimum. I have do this for the last two years and the inside of mine looks nearly new.

Highbeam · Sep 28, 2015

I don't do any wd-40 but do shovel out the ash sooner than you. You're giving up valuable wood space in that firebox! If the doghouse rotted due to the ash then I would expect all of the metal to have rotted. I instead agree with above that it is something else.

If this happens again, there has been one other member that replaced that doghouse with a block off plate.

cre73 · Sep 28, 2015

Would of never thought of this happening. Interesting.

MaintenanceMan · Sep 28, 2015

Were the bolts seized in there pretty well or did they come out easily?

begreen · Sep 28, 2015

Oldman47 said:
Just join photobucket, tiny pics or one of the others. Use their instructions to resize the stored picture to say 800x600. That size is accepted most anywhere these days. Once you have a picture in one of those places just copy the IMG address they provide for it and paste it wherever you want the picture to show up. I find it lets me share the same picture in an e-mail or almost any forum. I am on 3 motorcycle forums and 2 wood burning forums so I do not like to constantly be uploading pictures. This is a picture of one of my former bikes done just as I described it.

Sorry but no stove pictures yet.

Please don't do this. Upload the picture to the site and then post as a thumbnail. Images from PhotoBucket and other remote site are ephemeral. The links often get broken at a later date which leaves a post without the image. Also, the large images are brutal on low bandwidth connections and cellphone links.

Mountaineer · Sep 28, 2015

Hogwildz said:
When you swap it out, do yourself a favor and use neverseize on the new screws, just in case you need to do it again.

That's the plan . Thanks for the reminder.

blacktail said:
Innards of the stove and the chimney. 4 years of running it wide open. Did the pipe ever glow?

Nope black as can be. I burn hickory, black locust, red elm and other hot burners too.

Oldman47 said:
Just join photobucket, tiny pics or one of the others. Use their instructions to resize the stored picture to say 800x600. That size is accepted most anywhere these days. Once you have a picture in one of those places just copy the IMG address they provide for it and paste it wherever you want the picture to show up. I find it lets me share the same picture in an e-mail or almost any forum. I am on 3 motorcycle forums and 2 wood burning forums so I do not like to constantly be uploading pictures. This is a picture of one of my former bikes done just as I described it.
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Sorry but no stove pictures yet.

Yea I ended up biting the bullet and joining . I figured I would never get any pics uploaded if I didnt.

Z33 said:
Doesnt look too bad inside from what I had expected but you do have some issues starting with the re burn tubes. The ash being left in the stove for long periods of time is most of the problem. That ash combines with moisture from the air and creates a caustic lye that eats away at the components of the stove.
When you are done this year shovel it out, take a shop vac to the inside and give every thing a good coat of WD-40 to keep this to a minimum. I have do this for the last two years and the inside of mine looks nearly new.

Hmm ... Never knew. Love hearing informative posts. Thanks for the info. I will do that from now on.

MaintenanceMan said:
Were the bolts seized in there pretty well or did they come out easily?

Susprisingly they backed out real easy. Replacing them with new ones.

begreen said:
Please don't do this. Upload the picture to the site and then post as a thumbnail. Images from PhotoBucket and other remote site are ephemeral. The links often get broken at a later date which leaves a post without the image. Also, the large images are brutal on low bandwidth connections and cellphone links.

Oops. To late. I tried a hundred times to upload them to the site but always got rejected do to image size being to large or I would have posted them 6 months ago.

drumbum · Oct 2, 2015

Woody Stover said:
That damage is not surprising, given that the stove was run wide open. I'd like to see more pics of the innards of the stove.

Where did you get this info?

begreen · Oct 2, 2015

Mountaineer said:
Oops. To late. I tried a hundred times to upload them to the site but always got rejected do to image size being to large or I would have posted them 6 months ago.

I fixed it for you. Resizing an image is pretty easy in native OS applications. Paint on Windows will do this and so will Preview on the Mac.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/resize-a-picture-using-paint

Mountaineer · Oct 11, 2015

Baffle boards were bad so I went ahead and pulled them out and here is what was above them.......

Mountaineer · Oct 11, 2015

Old boards

Mountaineer · Oct 11, 2015

Back together with new boards from ESW

realstihl · Oct 11, 2015

Looks like you have some serious damage in the top of the stove. At the very least the top plate needs to be welded back into place.

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