Ouch 3.59 a gallon Oil Long Island NY

I guess it is safe to say that you did not lock in a price this summer??

rad said:

Got a fill up yesterday 3.59 A gallon what a rip off. The Govt. better step in and do something or a lot of good tax paying people are going to go cold this winter. I guess at these prices it wont take me long to recoupe my investment on my stove.

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Yep... and with that increase you will see the price of wood rise right along side of it. I saw a post the other day in another wood forum. Some guy was importing kiln dried wood from VT and selling it in the NY metro area for $600 a cord.

Gasoline was less than 3.00 here in Ma. today. You are getting ripped off big time on that heating oil - considering there are vastly less taxes on it and it is much less refined.

The government, remember, consists of oil men! But Joe Kennedy and others have heating oil assistance programs. Even many states do. These are usually not charity, just a lower (negotiated) price.

Cheney, Bush, Card and MANY others. It's just a coincidence, nothing real. Doesn't factor in their world view :coolsmirk:

Tough couple of days???? Heck, sleeping like a baby and laughing more than usual. Cat, always remember the infamous words of - well, of someone:
"When the going get's tough, the toughs get going!"........

Ever see the scene with Chevy Chase then the Haitian housekeeper tries to remove the spell from him?
She sprinkles this magic dust all around his bed, and only a little bit of this stuff will break ANY spell.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6044687244477384979

Funny stuff....
(BTW, that scene WAS on Long Island...in the Hamptons)

i too am on long island, called my guy yesterday for a price $2.869 gallon 200+
just ordered an insert should be here before christmas

yea man, i understand if you didnt lock in to any rate your in a pickle, but accoding to the DOE, if your paying more then
3.25/ gallon your getting hosed.
wholesale is 2.57.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/hopu/hopu.asp

Ought to rename them Sleazzy Fuel.....well, actually it might be that these companies made some bad bets in an attempt to assure supply. The end user then foots the bill. That is the "market" and the only way to avoid it is to either lock in, buy some contracts yourself (to offset the possible costs), or get a bigger oil tank and buy when the price is right.

Check some fuel prices at:
http://www.forfuel.com

Sickening. Only way I can describe it. Part of me wants to laugh since I buy maybe 10 dollars of gas a week, no fuel oil, maybe 30 dollars worth of propane every 6 months, the other part gets good and angry when I think of all the people who have no choice but to use oil or gas and have to decide between heat, medicine, or food. What grates me the worst is that it's all entirely artificial, and any price-raising chaos is deliberately prolonged to enrich a few individuals, previously mentioned, and their pals. In any civilized country they'd be wind ballast on a lampost. But we're supposed to bow down because they're "helping" by doling out a few dollars on TV, while so many are probably already cold and living on cat food.

Treason and war profiteering is a great way to show how much you care about your fellow Americans, isn't it?

Nobody buys from Petro, they are way to expensive, always have, always will be. I am on the end of the island, and I paid 2.88/gallon for 800 gallons delivered on the third. I think you should shop around a bit.

Hey BurnUnit, who did you order your oil from, and where on the island are you?

Craig... maybe not Sleazy, but we do have a Sweezey oil around here...

-- MIike

Gibbonboy said:

Treason and war profiteering is a great way to show how much you care about your fellow Americans, isn't it?

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So it is, so it has always been. Heck, Ben Franklin made his money printing the first $$$ for this country, and folks from this valley (Springfield) made all the guns and a lot of the bullets (we live next to Lead Mine Road)...

There is obviously a line with compete socialism at one end and complete profiteering at the other (in terms of economic policy).

Exactly where each of us feels that our country should be on that line is how we should vote (both with our dollars and at the ballot box).

And I guess that brings back a good case for wood, pellets and- more than anything else - for conservation and insulation!

Agreed, Craig. But not everyone has the capability or opportunity to burn renewable fuels, especially the elderly. That's what gets me cranked. But I guess this country has always run on rails greased by the defenseless, driven by the few and pushed by their cheerleaders.

For all you NY'ers that want to see what the rest of the state is paying....

http://www.nyserda.org/energy_information/NYEPD.asp

Kinda interesting :-(

Same as it ever was.....walking on the backs of the poor.

All I have to say is listen to track 8 then 14 on Eddie Vetters "into the wild" cd. I'll keep my political opinions to myself to avoid having to see my anger managment therapist.

shadowdoc said:

For all you NY'ers that want to see what the rest of the state is paying....

http://www.nyserda.org/energy_information/NYEPD.asp

Kinda interesting :-(

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Good idea. Here's the one I use, for Suffolk County.

Click Here

-- Mike

http://www.citizensenergy.com/main/Home.html

Joe Kennedy and Citgo among others.......

"Yes, oil from Venezuela

By Joseph P. Kennedy II | December 24, 2006

But those who have no problem staying warm at night should not condemn others for accepting Venezuela's oil. Rhetoric means little to an elderly woman who has to drag an old cot from her basement to sleep by the warmth of the open kitchen stove or give up food or medicine to pay her heating bill."

Good for him!

Meantime, Bush quote recently "gotta take some time to fatten up the ole coffers" - when asked what he intends to do after leaving office.

Certainly legal and he has that right - but wouldn't it have been nice for him to say "starting a foundation to do this or that"?

I think these prices are making people suffer, and no doubt that the person who has less (middle class and below) suffers VASTLY more.

There are lots of initiatives like the Kennedy one, and many would meet the criteria of those who don't like Chavez, etc......so folks who are really having a hard time should follow some of the links from that site to other efforts...I think citizens is just in Ma.

Arlo, the old lady is not political - she is just freezing. But the entire spectrum of energy is, by nature, VERY political. I guess we each react by either helping or not helping - in other words, you can donate to efforts, help your neighbor with some firewood or whatever else. That way you save on therapy bills.
:coolgrin:
(and thanks for holding back)

It's a comforting feeling to burn wood. What amazes me is that I know 90+ year-old people who still burn wood and/or coal for at least part of their heat, but I hear 30-year-olds complaining that it's "too much work". Guess it's a tradeoff that everyone has to find their comfort zone in, either pay for the heat, or work for it. Our men's group at church cuts wood every summer for those who can't do it themselves. We have a few farms to cut on, a few tractors, splitters, etc. Everyone has a fun time, we get a bunch of wood cut, split, and stacked at the person's house- works out for everybody. Pick a nice cool Saturday morning and go. More important is making sure those peoples' chimneys are clean and safe, and that they have smoke detectors, at least one CO detector, and a fire extinguisher.

The worst part is that the individual fuel dealers are making no more, or even less money than when oil was cheap. And our worthless dollar doesn't go far anymore, no matter whose wallet it's in.

Worldwide oil production has not increased since late '05 and the second largest oilfield is in a steep major decline. Also major projects like Kashagan and Khurais which should offer some major relief in supply have seen delays. Speculators finally know this and you are paying the price for it.

Another reason why you are paying that high price is our dollar devalued by 50% against the euro during his administration.


What baffles me is why are you still heating with oil?

That's more than the retail price of diesel oil, which is the same stuff with the road taxes added.

Raises the question in my mind: Who makes up the difference between the lock-in price and the rising cost of oil on the international market? I guess the people like you who didn't jump on board.

I'd shop around.

So why not go buy some diesel and pour it in?

I am in Cutchogue and have been using Peconic Energy, todays price up to 2.91 though

burnunit said:

I am in Cutchogue and have been using Peconic Energy, todays price up to 2.91 though

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AH, a neighbor! I'll have to give Peconic Energy a call. I use Springfield Fuel, COD only.
Who is your wood supplier and what type stove are you burning?

-- Mike