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3fordasho
Minister of Fire
I took that as they want a minimum of 12" vertical rise for the 8" take off ducts before you install an elbow or some other fitting. Makes sense to allow gravity flow in a power out situation.
Exactly, hot air likes to go up, but not as much sideways, unless it has some "momentum" first
If you look at the manual on many wood stoves, often they call for 2' of vertical stovepipe before going horizontal to the chimney, same principle
Matt78
Burning Hunk
Duh.. I feel kinda dumb! Lol. Probably won't be the last time either. Well back to work. Thanks guys
Matt78
Burning Hunk
You'd be better off going (2) 8" main runs and then branching off with (4) 6" branches...going 8" right into (1) 6" is about a 50% cut in airflow, way too much
DoubleB
Minister of Fire
Everyone here is a hearth member. But only a select few have earned membership into the "bonehead post" club. It's so super-secret that unsuspecting members don't even know it exists until they accidentally join. And even then, some manage to fail to accidentally join because they never realize that they made a bonehead post.
So, congratulations, you have joined!
But you have a long way to catch up to me. 
Keep up the good work, by the way. You're paying attention to the details that will make your experience very enjoyable.
Matt78
Burning Hunk
Builder your right.....ductwork = NO FUN!
Brenn...just trying to come up with the least expensive way to do the duckwork. Next year I plan on having all ductwork redone. So both gas and wood furnace are tied in together. Thought if I could utilize 6" I could then reuse.
Double...lol....had me laughing.... And thanks!
Brenn...just trying to come up with the least expensive way to do the duckwork. Next year I plan on having all ductwork redone. So both gas and wood furnace are tied in together. Thought if I could utilize 6" I could then reuse.
Double...lol....had me laughing.... And thanks!
Matt78
Burning Hunk
Menards has a metal flexable duct with operating temp of 435 degrees. Is it possible to use this?
Understood. How far do you have to go?
Well, I guess technically you could. It's 8"?
It's not gonna flow as well as regular steel duct but if you can keep it a fairly straight run and run 8" almost the whole way...not ideal, but it may work for temporary. Is it really that much cheaper?
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Matt78
Burning Hunk
You can get 6" or 8". I think I'll use the metal flex 6" to the short runs to registers. Then use non flex 6" to long registers. It's a little cheaper. You get 36 more inches for about the same price on the 8" round.
Man I've change my mind everyday on the ductwork planning. I think the wifey is getting tired of me buying stuff at menards! Lol
When you put pencil to paper, add up everything, elbows, pipe, adapters, connectors, hangers, screws, clamps, dampers, registers, etc, is it really that much cheaper than going with standard round duct? I would be worried that I'd spend that money (saving a couple bucks) only to find it really doesn't work right...I dunno, not saying it won't work, just a risk is all
3fordasho
Minister of Fire
Question for those who have contacted SBI and have been promised firebrick for the front- is there someone specific you've been in contact with? I've emailed the [email protected] address a couple days ago asking about the "kit" and have yet to hear anything back. Would like to update both my Tundras and if factory parts are available....
I just went to the "contact us" tab on the SBI website and stated my questions. I think it was last Friday or Saturday i sent the email to them and i had a reply Tuesday,. I was in contact with the customer service manager. SBI did ask me to provide proof of purchase to update my file so i sent them that also. I would expect you should hear from them soon. Mine are suppose to be shipped out Oct. 26.
I wasn't going to wait until the 26th to fire the furnace after all this work getting it ready to go. So i stopped by the mason supply house tonight and picked up 3- 4x8 firebricks and cut them myself as a temp set up until i get the ones from SBI.
Not sure if this is new info or not but i figured i would pay SBI website a visit and check out the Heatpro specs and while i was there i noticed a new to me Tundra II and Heatmax II. To me it looks like the same units with the same plenum they have on the Heatpro. Sorry folks but that plenum is going to be one heck of a cluster **** with all those outlets.
When you do end up hooking into your existing ductwork odds are you will be using 8" duct to do so and not 6". Sounds like money wasted if your going buy 6" for now. You can reuse the 8" you have. Keep in mind that SBI wants the systems static pressure at .2wc. Not sure how thats going to work out cutting down the airflow like you would be using 6". Have you received any quotes on tying into your existing ductwork now? If your current ductwork is not far away i don't think it would be that much to run a couple ducts to it and have a backflow preventor installed. Just an idea doesn't hurt to get some numbers. If you can try to deal with a sheetmetal worker directly not just your regular heating and cooling guy who would proubly sub out the ductwork portion anyways.
Took me a bit to find this...it's Tundra II and Heatmax II, I only see one version of the Heatpro. (EDIT: Ooops, I see I misread the original post, I thought you said there was 2 versions of the Heatrpros too.)Not sure if this is new info or not but i figured i would pay SBI website a visit and check out the Heatpro specs and while i was there i noticed a new to me Tundra II and Heatmax II. To me it looks like the same units with the same plenum they have on the Heatpro. Sorry folks but that plenum is going to be one heck of a cluster **** with all those outlets.
Yeah, notice the "recommended heating area" is 500 sq ft less on the "II"? Hmmm, scratching my head...
DoubleB
Minister of Fire
DoubleB
Minister of Fire
Hmmph. Figures. Too bad you didn't get answers to your legitimate questions, but I guess we are used to getting little detail back. At least you'll get the firebrick, and that'll help a lot.
Here's where I found it...
http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LE.../compare/RK=0/RS=ACUy6naiuzd9fzVIcNL0GUd38z4-
DoubleB
Minister of Fire
Thanks, I see it now, just as described above. Clearly more than just some design tweaks, has its own model number DF02001 too. Makes me think they will soon discontinue DF02000. Kind of makes me sad. Not to see DF020000 get replaced, but to get replaced by that nasty plenum.
Can you imagine how silly that floor display will look at Menards?!?! (But they probably won't put the plenum on the floor unit.)
Can you imagine how silly that floor display will look at Menards?!?! (But they probably won't put the plenum on the floor unit.)
laynes69
Minister of Fire
I think the 2 is better, it's nice to see a plenum instead of the 2 8" outlets. Of course, one doesn't have to use the octopus plenum.
OK, I am doing the happy dance this morning seeing how I didn't burn a drop of oil last night. So the first fire has happened and I would just like to post my initial findings.
So I get home from work and fire it up last night. Oh boy wasn't good at first, so I lay a few 2x4's on edge pack in the news paper and lay my kindling on top, pull the lighter out and bam we have fire. Oooooopppsss next thing you know I have smoke coming out the damper and even the ash tray door, wasn't good, smoke alarms going off, wife yelling down at me saying smoke is coming out the floor registers. For any newbie such as myself STOP and please read the following very carefully. I strongly advise anyone before putting a match to your newspaper under the kindling that you light some news paper and hold it up to the exit of the stove to get a draft going.
Otherwise you risk having the wife give you " THE LOOK". Now with that aside do I enter the elite club of DUH?.
Now a couple comments about the tundra. Has anyone else noticed that the 8" supply on the left looking at the front of the stove gets much warmer air compared to the supply on the right? I really like how this thing just goes into auto pilot once you set the thermostat. Had the house up to 73, also not wise when the wife has given you the "look" already.
Well that's it for now. Time to grab another coffee and just watch.
So I get home from work and fire it up last night. Oh boy wasn't good at first, so I lay a few 2x4's on edge pack in the news paper and lay my kindling on top, pull the lighter out and bam we have fire. Oooooopppsss next thing you know I have smoke coming out the damper and even the ash tray door, wasn't good, smoke alarms going off, wife yelling down at me saying smoke is coming out the floor registers. For any newbie such as myself STOP and please read the following very carefully. I strongly advise anyone before putting a match to your newspaper under the kindling that you light some news paper and hold it up to the exit of the stove to get a draft going.
Otherwise you risk having the wife give you " THE LOOK". Now with that aside do I enter the elite club of DUH?. Now a couple comments about the tundra. Has anyone else noticed that the 8" supply on the left looking at the front of the stove gets much warmer air compared to the supply on the right? I really like how this thing just goes into auto pilot once you set the thermostat. Had the house up to 73, also not wise when the wife has given you the "look" already.
Well that's it for now. Time to grab another coffee and just watch.
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